12-17-13 08:22 AM
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  1. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    There is much I do like about my Z30. But I do have one gripe. Had I known this prior to purchase, I might not be a Z30 owner right now.

    Where are my apps? No, not the ones that everyone is saying is part of an app shortage. That is covered on hunderds of other threads. I mean, the apps and games that the Z10 have. I went on an assumption that since the Z30 is a full touch screen just like the Z10, the apps and games would all be available. Not even close!

    Kalemsoft Media Player. Where is it? Splashtop Remote, got it! But it's basically worthless, needs an update to be functional. Most my previously bought games from my older Z10 from Electronic Arts, Gameloft, Unity, are nowhere to be found. I will give Unity credit though, as they are fixing this much faster than the other two.

    I did not expect this. Can anyone explain why the Z30 is so different from the Z10 that these apps will not function on a Z30?


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    12-12-13 05:07 AM
  2. Draven2666's Avatar
    There is much I do like about my Z30. But I do have one gripe. Had I known this prior to purchase, I might not be a Z30 owner right now.

    Where are my apps? No, not the ones that everyone is saying is part of an app shortage. That is covered on hunderds of other threads. I mean, the apps and games that the Z10 have. I went on an assumption that since the Z30 is a full touch screen just like the Z10, the apps and games would all be available. Not even close!

    Kalemsoft Media Player. Where is it? Splashtop Remote, got it! But it's basically worthless, needs an update to be functional. Most my previously bought games from my older Z10 from Electronic Arts, Gameloft, Unity, are nowhere to be found. I will give Unity credit though, as they are fixing this much faster than the other two.

    I did not expect this. Can anyone explain why the Z30 is so different from the Z10 that these apps will not function on a Z30?


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    Mainly screen size. Most everything in bbw is coded to Z10 or Q10 screen size. Do to work on Z30 the devs have to modify the code then submit an update to bbw.

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    12-12-13 05:16 AM
  3. kbz1960's Avatar
    And how many devs are going to bother doing it? Guess there goes the myth that there won't be any fragmentation.
    Fidel Mercado likes this.
    12-12-13 05:24 AM
  4. jrohland's Avatar
    Mainly screen size. Most everything in bbw is coded to Z10 or Q10 screen size. Do to work on Z30 the devs have to modify the code then submit an update to bbw.

    Posted via CB10
    It has nothing to do with screen size. It is screen resolution. The Z10 and Z30 have the same resolution. ALL apps should be compatible unless they use hardware available on the Z30 which is not available on the Z10 (FM radio, Hosted USB, Miracast, Etc...). I assume the allegedly missing apps simple need to have a switch thrown to make them available for the Z30. I don't know if it is the developer or BlackBerry or both who need to do that. You should try to contact the dev and see what they say.
    12-12-13 05:29 AM
  5. jrohland's Avatar
    I'll be very happy to trade you a Z10 for your Z30.
    David in Durham likes this.
    12-12-13 05:32 AM
  6. ESCON's Avatar
    So make a list , and i help you to inform the developers...
    DOCTOREVIL8 likes this.
    12-12-13 05:46 AM
  7. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    Thank you ESCON for your suggestion. Compiling a list really puts it into perspective. Some of the apps/games I had in mind were on the PlayBook and not BB10.

    From this list, I see that Electronic Arts is by far the worst offender here. I take back what I said about Unity as it appears they have closed the gap. Gameloft is only missing 1 game.

    Here's the list...

    Electronic Arts:
    Mass Effect
    Battleship
    Need for Speed Undercover
    YAHTZEE Adventures
    Monopoly
    Monopoly Millionaire
    Boggle
    Tetris
    The Game of Life
    Sim City Deluxe
    Flight Control Rocket

    Gameloft:
    Six Guns

    ...also...
    Kalemsoft Media Player

    EDIT: added below...
    Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing
    Cut the Rope
    Cut the Rope Experiments

    I am having problems with Splashtop Remote, but I have been in touch with the developer and they're working on it.


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    12-12-13 06:15 AM
  8. jevinzac's Avatar
    Thank you ESCON for your suggestion. Compiling a list really puts it into perspective. Some of the apps/games I had in mind were on the PlayBook and not BB10.

    From this list, I see that Electronic Arts is by far the worst offender here. I take back what I said about Unity as it appears they have closed the gap. Gameloft is only missing 1 game.

    Here's the list...

    Electronic Arts:
    Mass Effect
    Battleship
    Need for Speed Undercover
    YAHTZEE Adventures
    Monopoly
    Monopoly Millionaire
    Boggle
    Tetris
    The Game of Life
    Sim City Deluxe
    Flight Control Rocket

    Gameloft:
    Six Guns

    ...also...
    Kalemsoft Media Player

    I am having problems with Splashtop Remote, but I have been in touch with the developer and they're working on it.


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    Damn! None of these are available for Z30? :O

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    12-12-13 06:24 AM
  9. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    You can add Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing to the list.

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    12-12-13 07:39 AM
  10. TrueKulcha's Avatar
    For me this is a surprise and also a big disappointment. Never in my wildest dreams I would have imagined this to be such an issue but apparently it is. I'm not a big gaming person so my knowledge is limited here but I had NFL mobile on Z10 and now no longer see it. These issues should be ironed out ASAP I think.

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    12-12-13 07:51 AM
  11. R Field's Avatar
    Anybody having issues with Real Racing 3 not working on the Z30?

    BlackBerry Z30 & Z10 | 10.2.1.1055 | C0006E212
    12-12-13 07:52 AM
  12. killarneygetaway's Avatar
    Anybody having issues with Real Racing 3 not working on the Z30?

    BlackBerry Z30 & Z10 | 10.2.1.1055 | C0006E212
    Worked for me. I have since deleted it since it took so much space.

    Jason

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    12-12-13 07:57 AM
  13. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    Anybody having issues with Real Racing 3 not working on the Z30?

    BlackBerry Z30 & Z10 | 10.2.1.1055 | C0006E212
    Real Racing 3 works fine for me. Only done a couple races though.

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    12-12-13 08:12 AM
  14. TioPepe78's Avatar
    Anybody having issues with Real Racing 3 not working on the Z30?

    BlackBerry Z30 & Z10 | 10.2.1.1055 | C0006E212
    No, that one works perfectly
    12-12-13 08:56 AM
  15. Spawn12's Avatar
    For me this is a surprise and also a big disappointment. Never in my wildest dreams I would have imagined this to be such an issue but apparently it is. I'm not a big gaming person so my knowledge is limited here but I had NFL mobile on Z10 and now no longer see it. These issues should be ironed out ASAP I think.

    Posted via CB10
    I had NFL mobile on my Z10 and i still have it on my Z30. But i just just restored my backup excluding the settings from my z10 to my z30 and it showed up and works perfectly fine.
    12-12-13 09:01 AM
  16. EauRouge's Avatar
    Gah I know I'm affected by this too. The only app thats really bothering me thats missing is the Globe and Mail news app!

    The screen resolution is the same! Literally all the dev has to do is select the Z30 as a eligible device!
    12-12-13 09:27 AM
  17. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Gah I know I'm affected by this too. The only app thats really bothering me thats missing is the Globe and Mail news app!

    The screen resolution is the same! Literally all the dev has to do is select the Z30 as a eligible device!
    BlackBerry should do it for them without their damn permission....

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.0.1803
    12-12-13 09:29 AM
  18. tlegend2012's Avatar
    I'm thinking the same thing too... it depends on the availability on specific devices.
    12-12-13 09:32 AM
  19. PygmySurfer's Avatar
    It has nothing to do with screen size. It is screen resolution. The Z10 and Z30 have the same resolution
    No they don't.

    Z10 1280 x 768 resolution, 356ppi
    Z30 1280 x 720 resolution, 295ppi
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    12-12-13 09:40 AM
  20. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    No they don't.

    Z10 1280 x 768 resolution, 356ppi
    Z30 1280 x 720 resolution, 295ppi
    They do in technical terms. Both are 720p. And BlackBerry said Z10 apps are compatible with Z30 apps assuming the dev makes the Z30 a eligible device. Which to me is stupid. BlackBerry needs to do this automatically.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.0.1803
    12-12-13 09:43 AM
  21. xtremesniper's Avatar
    My app was converted to support Z30 automatically. They sent me an email indicating that they will do it unless I opt out, which I did not do.

    Unless EA and these other companies are opting out, this shouldn't be happening.

    That said, the resolutions are different (ever so slightly), so some assets may look skewed if you know what to look for. I'm going to have to release an update for my app to address this.
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    12-12-13 09:53 AM
  22. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    My app was converted to support Z30 automatically. They sent me an email indicating that they will do it unless I opt out, which I did not do.

    Unless EA and these other companies are opting out, this shouldn't be happening.

    That said, the resolutions are different (ever so slightly), so some assets may look skewed if you know what to look for. I'm going to have to release an update for my app to address this.
    This is good to know. So it appears that EA has chosen to not automatically have support for Z30. I am hoping this is because of testing reasons. Either way, I hope they get these released sooner rather then later. I want to buy some at $0.99 and I already own a few that I can't use.

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    12-12-13 10:08 AM
  23. SparkyBC's Avatar
    That's the main problem there is no standardization. Stick to two screen size that's it...
    12-12-13 10:38 AM
  24. TrueKulcha's Avatar
    Will have to try restoring from my last z10 backup.. thanks for the heads up

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    12-12-13 10:44 AM
  25. xtremesniper's Avatar
    That's the main problem there is no standardization. Stick to two screen size that's it...
    If anything, aside from iOS, BlackBerry 10 is the only other standardized mobile OS right now.

    They made it very clear from the beginning what resolutions would be required for support across all their devices. It's up to EA to support them. When the Z10 launched they shouted loud and clear to devs that it would have a unique resolution (difference of 48 pixels) because they decided to go with 720p for all phones from then on.

    Why did they do that? I don't know. My best bet is that by the time they decided on standards, they were already too far along in Z10 production. Keep in mind they had the Z10 prototypes going for a year or two before it was even announced.
    12-12-13 12:21 PM
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