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  1. FishTire's Avatar
    Flicked from my Z30
    04-14-14 05:34 PM
  2. Alberto8's Avatar
    Don't understand why Chen does not manufacture limited quantities of this model and offer them for sale on shopblackberry.com




    Posted via CB10
    04-14-14 05:47 PM
  3. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    My Z30 says "Not For sale -081" on it. Updates?-b4e6ea26ad9f293afe696246e57a7066.png
    Flicked from my Z30

    Much appreciated, and this one right here confirms, this was designed for AT&T and when AT&T chickened out and left the deal Blackberry never ordered more devices from the manufacturer.
    Here is AT&T's bands, in case anyone is wondering:
    My Z30 says "Not For sale -081" on it. Updates?-9c6a808c71138e91d9a09682fea443d8.png

    Either AT&T was upset Verizon got the exclusive deal with undisclosed period of time or AT&T decided they won't be able to sell BB's anymore.
    I still consider this a failure on BB's part, and a big one at that. Even if AT&T cancelled their orders BB should have simply used FCC approval, which they had in place, and start selling this to North American buyers only. Look how many people bought STA 100-3 from Verizon or STA 100-5 from random sellers online and use on AT&T. I wonder if AT&T did a sweep, how many Z30 users would pop up on their systems.

    FishTire, would you mind telling us if you are with AT&T?
    lawguyman likes this.
    04-14-14 07:45 PM
  4. dalight13's Avatar
    How many GB of RAM do you have?

    P.S.

    My Z30 says "Not For sale -081" on it. Updates?-notforsale.png

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    04-14-14 07:52 PM
  5. dalight13's Avatar
    Well what is the latest from your carrier? That 10.2.1 is a later OS so it should be getting updates. At any point BB *could* kill it, as it is not supposed to be sold/traded/etc. Probably had a "Propery of Research in Motion" sticker on the back at some point.
    I hope that won't happen..


    My Z30 says "Not For sale -081" on it. Updates?-img_20140414_205640.png

    P.P.S. Do you have the bug reporter?

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    heading4tomorrow likes this.
    04-14-14 07:57 PM
  6. raino's Avatar
    Don't understand why Chen does not manufacture limited quantities of this model and offer them for sale on shopblackberry.com
    Scale, my friend. It would cost quite a bit to do a limited run. If they price them high accordingly, people may not buy. If they manufacture too many, they end up with another inventory write-down.

    FishTire, would you mind telling us if you are with AT&T?
    Telus I think. It's in one of the Signal screenshots.
    04-14-14 09:25 PM
  7. FishTire's Avatar
    I hope that won't happen..

    P.P.S. Do you have the bug reporter?

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    Yes but it's asking for a contact email which I'd rather not provide.


    Flicked from my Z30
    04-15-14 02:45 AM
  8. FishTire's Avatar
    How many GB of RAM do you have?



    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM

    It has 2GB ram


    Flicked from my Z30
    04-15-14 02:45 AM
  9. FishTire's Avatar

    Telus I think. It's in one of the Signal screenshots.

    I use multiple carriers. I'm in Canada but I roam in the USA weekly. So AT&T and T-Mobile too


    Flicked from my Z30
    04-15-14 02:48 AM
  10. FishTire's Avatar

    P.P.S. Do you have the bug reporter?

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM

    I do and unfortunately it says my token expires in a few days. Hopefully that won't render the device useless.



    My Z30 says "Not For sale -081" on it. Updates?-img_20140415_040004.png

    Flicked from my Z30
    04-15-14 03:02 AM
  11. igotaq's Avatar
    I do and unfortunately it says my token expires in a few days. Hopefully that won't render the device useless.



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    Flicked from my Z30
    I would turn off every thing on that screen. Looks like it's sending off "raw data"
    04-15-14 04:14 AM
  12. dalight13's Avatar
    Yeah turn it all off because it sends A LOT of data to BB.. anyone have a way to remove that thing with the chrome pluggin???

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    04-15-14 06:41 AM
  13. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    Yeah turn it all off because it sends A LOT of data to BB.. anyone have a way to remove that thing with the chrome pluggin???

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    If you guys use Autoloader, will that brick your evaluation units? The problem is, if it does, you will never be able to find the OS that would run on your -1 devices.
    04-15-14 10:22 AM
  14. jafrul's Avatar
    Nice find.

    Btw, how do I get to those radio page?


    Posted via Astro on Z30STA100-2/10.2.1.2947
    04-15-14 10:25 AM
  15. dalight13's Avatar
    If you guys use Autoloader, will that brick your evaluation units? The problem is, if it does, you will never be able to find the OS that would run on your -1 devices.
    Well I have a Q10 -1 device which I think is pretty common no?

    I use autoloader all the time and never had a problem with it

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    04-15-14 10:28 AM
  16. raino's Avatar
    Btw, how do I get to those radio page?
    It's an app called Signal. Available in app world.

    Well I have a Q10 -1 device which I think is pretty common no?
    Unlike the Q10 -1, the Z30 -1 is not in commercial distribution.
    jafrul likes this.
    04-15-14 10:32 AM
  17. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    Well I have a Q10 -1 device which I think is pretty common no?

    I use autoloader all the time and never had a problem with it

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    Sorry, like Raino mentioned, I was referring to STA-100-1 (Z30)
    So, when you used autoloader, it did not get rid of the token limitation and bug reporting sections? Since fishtire was concerned about his token about to expire, was wondering if autoloader would get rid of it, but I guess not.
    04-15-14 11:03 AM
  18. dalight13's Avatar
    Nope I installed a lot of leaks and it never removed that token thing and all... so that's why I'm looking for a way to remove it with the chrome extension or something...

    Posted from my Q10 running on 1GB of RAM
    04-15-14 11:04 AM
  19. smoothrunnings's Avatar
    I recently acquired (by trading a high end android) what appears to be an evaluation model BlackBerry X00 Z30 STA100-1

    I'm curious if I'll get updates in the future or if I'll have to run leaks.

    It's currently running 10.2.1.2084

    Thanks for any info.

    Flicked from my Z30
    If you have a "not for resale" device you should ask BlackBerry if they are willing to trade you for a production Z30. I am sure John Chen would love to get his hands on it and sue bugger who thought they could sell it!
    04-15-14 03:06 PM
  20. dalight13's Avatar
    If you have a "not for resale" device you should ask BlackBerry if they are willing to trade you for a production Z30. I am sure John Chen would love to get his hands on it and sue bugger who thought they could sell it!
    Tried that already but no go for me Keep me posted OP if it works for you I'll call back!
    04-15-14 03:42 PM
  21. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Don't understand why Chen does not manufacture limited quantities of this model and offer them for sale on shopblackberry.com
    Because it's not economically viable to make "limited quantities" of a phone. How many people would pay an extra $100 for this model in order to make a run of, say, 20,000 phones viable?

    Keep in mind that Z30 production ended 6 months ago, so it would require re-tooling a production line to make them. I'm sure the tooling exists, but the components would have to be ordered, and the machines would all have to be recalibrated with the new tooling before a production run can happen. That can take a production line down for at least several days, and that's expensive, and the cost would have to be borne by the device sales. Then there is the higher price of the components when purchased in small batches. Then you'd have printing costs and I'm sure a few other things. Add all that up, and $100 extra per phone, retail, is about right.
    04-15-14 04:24 PM
  22. FishTire's Avatar
    If you have a "not for resale" device you should ask BlackBerry if they are willing to trade you for a production Z30. I am sure John Chen would love to get his hands on it and sue bugger who thought they could sell it!
    Has anyone had success doing that?

    Flicked from my Z30
    04-15-14 04:45 PM
  23. FishTire's Avatar
    Just an update, I manually set the date beyond the token expiration to see what would happen. While the phone still works, the bug reporting features are now gone.

    Flicked from my Z30
    heading4tomorrow and raino like this.
    04-15-14 04:46 PM
  24. anon(3732391)'s Avatar
    I'm, no doubt, missing something here but I haven't seen it mentioned so:

    Could your device be in DISPLAY MODE?

    in Settings> Display> Advanced> Retail Display Mode
    04-15-14 05:05 PM
  25. FishTire's Avatar
    I'm, no doubt, missing something here but I haven't seen it mentioned so:

    Could your device be in DISPLAY MODE?

    in Settings> Display> Advanced> Retail Display Mode
    No, it's working in regular mode.

    Flicked from my Z30

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