I just tried ordering a Z30 from Verizon and they wouldn't let me buy at full retail price. They said they only sell with a plan. How is everyone posting that they got one from Verizon and using on ATT etc???? The guy talked to me like I was a moron. I said I wanted to purchase it as a "gift" at full retail price and he was snobby and said they don't do that without a plan...so I guess no Z30 for me..