1. moody's Avatar
    Is this what you guys see in real life? I remember someone had both Z10 and Z30, and if we have more people with multiple Z or Q devices, can you do a comparison?

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    If this is true, Z30 camera is considerable worse than Q10 and still worse than Z10. Looks like Q10 has amazing sharpness and darkest blacks, while text is good enough to read, however text is almost disappeared in Z30.
    You can click on above pictures to see the full sizes. Z30 also blurs the lines in that circle test image as well.

    To see full size images, check this link:
    Photo Compare Tool - GSMArena.com
    I just got through discussing this very thing with my bbm group. I have a q10 and a 9810 and both take better photos than my new z30. Quite frankly the camera on my z30 sucks. so far its the only thing I have found that is inferior. Buts its a big deal to me.
    11-24-13 08:13 PM
  2. moody's Avatar
    Okay, same mural.

    taken with iphone 4s
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_6076.jpg

    taken with q10
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-q10-1.jpg

    taken with z30

    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-z30-9.jpg

    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-z30-12.jpg



    iPhone took better picture for sure. Cant really tell much difference between q and z. I know my 9810 took better picks I will try to find them and come back and edit this post to add.

    BTW I hand painted this mural for my daughter's 16th birthday
    11-24-13 09:24 PM
  3. deadcowboy's Avatar
    Okay, same mural.

    taken with iphone 4s
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    taken with q10
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    taken with z30

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    iPhone took better picture for sure. Cant really tell much difference between q and z. I know my 9810 took better picks I will try to find them and come back and edit this post to add.

    BTW I hand painted this mural for my daughter's 16th birthday
    Very nice. It should be noted that 4:3 offers the most sensor use on the Q10. It wiuld have helped if the frames were more similar. But thanks for testing; I can't argue with your conclusion.

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    11-25-13 10:05 AM
  4. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    Can we get more participation please? Where are the Z30 vs Z/Qx comparison pictures?? I am sure we still have a lot of people with both if not more devices...
    12-05-13 12:01 AM
  5. moody's Avatar
    I have both Q & Z30. If I can rem I will take more photos & post for comparisons. I just keep forgetting.

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    12-05-13 08:20 AM
  6. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    I have both Q & Z30. If I can rem I will take more photos & post for comparisons. I just keep forgetting.

    Posted via CB10 - the app that may or may not exist

    We will remind you: BEEEE DOOOO BEEE DOOOO BEEEEE DOOOOO
    12-05-13 01:22 PM
  7. moody's Avatar
    We will remind you: BEEEE DOOOO BEEE DOOOO BEEEEE DOOOO
    LMBO!! It worked! So here are three more pics. I did not edit them in any way nor did I adjust their size when sending to my email. I sent them in their original size:

    Q10
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-q-10.jpg

    Z30
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_20131211.jpg

    9810
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-9810.jpg

    So.... what I did was get as close to the statue as possible and still get a focus. As you can see, I had to be further away with the Z30 to get focus to lock in. And the picture quality isn't as good, IMO.
    12-05-13 04:10 PM
  8. Cozz4ever's Avatar
    I want to add that both the rear and front cameras have the same blur/ darkness when compared to the Z10. I was told by several people that the Z10 and Z30 use the same front cameras. But what I really noticed is the frame rate is much slower on the Z30 front camera. And so much darker. Something else is going on here.
    01-15-14 06:12 AM
  9. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    I want to add that both the rear and front cameras have the same blur/ darkness when compared to the Z10. I was told by several people that the Z10 and Z30 use the same front cameras. But what I really noticed is the frame rate is much slower on the Z30 front camera. And so much darker. Something else is going on here.
    Did anyone try 3rd party android cam apps? Cab they be sideloaded to see if it helps with performance?

    I don't know if Z30 suffers from same problem earlier BBs suffered when they had same lens but took worse pictures. Like 8900 took amazing pictures but 9000 sucked.


    Sent from my LG-D800
    01-15-14 09:08 AM
  10. anon(3993749)'s Avatar
    LMBO!! It worked! So here are three more pics. I did not edit them in any way nor did I adjust their size when sending to my email. I sent them in their original size:

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    So.... what I did was get as close to the statue as possible and still get a focus. As you can see, I had to be further away with the Z30 to get focus to lock in. And the picture quality isn't as good, IMO.
    In the future try to use the same aspect ratio on both phones. 1:1 and 16:9 should be avoided, as they are not the native ratio of the sensor. I'm sure you will get different results with 4:3.
    01-15-14 03:30 PM
  11. enik's Avatar
    The Z30 probably has a different image processing chip. I'm pretty sure blackberry just uses the one that qualcomm includes in their SoC. Also I've noticed some Z30's take better pictures than others. Its pretty weird but maybe their quality control is not the best when it comes to cameras. The camera has never been a strong suit for BlackBerry and the new bb10 phone cameras have never been anything more than kinda good when compared to the current flagships. I'd say it's on par with a galaxy s3 or HTC one x.
    03-10-14 10:15 PM
  12. MrGabriel's Avatar
    This is a very good comparison. Are you using the HDR mode in any of the cameras?
    03-10-14 10:56 PM
  13. Z10andy's Avatar
    Don't have a problem with my z30 camera takes lovely
    Pictures if u want to take studio quality pictures go buy a dedicated
    Camera.
    03-11-14 09:31 AM
  14. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    Don't have a problem with my z30 camera takes lovely
    Pictures if u want to take studio quality pictures go buy a dedicated
    Camera.
    Are you not reading the thread or read it but completely missed the point?
    03-11-14 10:59 AM
  15. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    Has this been improved with subsequent software releases? Does anyone have a calibration target to test it out themselves?

    Posted via CB10
    03-11-14 11:05 AM
  16. Mr Barkers's Avatar
    Honestly, my biggest gripe with the Z30 is the camera. It takes absolutely lousy pictures compared to my iPhone 4s. I've tried tweaking it every which way, but it still doesn't compete. If it's software related, they should hurry up and patch it.

    This is the one area that apple clearly has BlackBerry beat.

    Posted on CB10 via my Z30
    03-11-14 11:36 AM
  17. jonty12's Avatar
    Now that I have all three at my disposal, I'll do a comparison some time today. Z10/30 running 10.2.1.2141, Q10 running 10.2.0.1047 (squircle).
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    03-11-14 11:45 AM
  18. jonty12's Avatar
    Apologies in advance as I wasn't as accurate as I would have liked with the distance to the subject.
    Q10
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_00005165.jpg

    Z10
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_20140311_125936.jpg

    Z30
    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_20140311_125139.jpg
    03-11-14 12:21 PM
  19. Melinium's Avatar
    First is Z30 1/17 sec ISO 189 Flash on

    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_20140311_184407.jpg

    Second is Z10 1/25 ISO 70 Flash on

    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_20140311_184445.jpg

    Third is a Canon 600D Manual mode set to 1/100sec ISO 200 Flash on

    Comparison of Z30 Camera to Z10 and Q10, wash-out colors and grayish blacks-img_0551.jpg

    Z30 is darker, Z10 is more accurate compared to the Canon 600D
    03-11-14 01:24 PM
  20. kearneyman's Avatar
    I bought a Z30 after my Z10 broke. After 1 day, I returned it and bought a Z10 from blackberry and had it overnighted to me.

    The Z10 has an decent camera. The Z30, had trouble in anything but daylight. And, it tended to "expand" a lot things: especially people. By that I mean, people's faces looked more round/fatter than what they really were.

    I have a Nexus 5 and Z10, and I think the cameras are pretty equal (Nexus tends to take better pictures in lower light levels)
    02-27-15 12:16 PM
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