- CRAZY buying in at $8.
Buying today is not so CRAZY as long as it is a short term "investment". Q3 results will bring it back down.
Thinking the PlayBook is still a relevant device is CRAZY. There are much better devices on the market today that are more powerful, have SD capabilities and are capable of running 4.0 Android apps that the PlayBook never will.11-06-13 10:32 AMLike 0 - Hmmm, I guess my 2cents to this thread is....why would Blackberry need to get a faster chip, quad core or more memory? Why would they need this if using lower end specs gives the same results? If the OS is optimized accordingly, it is pointless to put HUGE specs, increasing cost of the phone, when it doesn't need it. I don't get why people get so hung up on the specs war. That's why apple for many years didn't publish what they had in their iphones. It wasn't necessarry. Android needs the specs, because that's the only way the OS can keep up with Apple and Blackberry. It's pretty smart of them too....they figured out that if they show they have the best specs, their phones will sell, which they are. I think they sell more then apple does if I'm not mistaken. But that's how they get you...they add a ton of specs, making the phone look superior, but in reality, it doesn't. If an OS can run just as good (or arguably better) with half the specs, than why would you want to put higher specs in your devices? Makes no sense. As for the cost....well, it costs good money for good engineers to build a quality OS that doesn't need high specs to run it. So on one hand, Blackberry has a much more superior OS, but less specs....Android has inferior OS, but higher specs. Seems to even out to me, which is why they both cost similar prices.
That's my 2 cents....feel free to ask for change if you're not happy with my comments. Then again, I'm not one to care to much about that. I pick a phone based on what it does for me, not based on specs. I want quality and good functionality and I want it to be efficient. That is what BB10 has. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Android. Awesome that it as great specs though!digtech and dreamgreed like this.11-06-13 12:32 PMLike 2 - Hmmm, I guess my 2cents to this thread is....why would Blackberry need to get a faster chip, quad core or more memory? Why would they need this if using lower end specs gives the same results? If the OS is optimized accordingly, it is pointless to put HUGE specs
Or you could ask Z10 owners who were waiting for Miracast functionality..but they too, sadly, were disappointed when the Z10 "specs" weren't capable of it. There is actually a long list of "disappointments" from BBRY throughout it's history due to the fact that it STILL can't seem to compete with these so-called useless specs.11-06-13 01:02 PMLike 3 - Your a funny guy. Needing better specs just to be barely as smooth as iPhone or blackberry 10 would not be considered a better phone. Not to mention the battery drain due to the high spec components just isn't worth it.
Owner of z30, z10, q10, iPhone 4 and 5, sony xperia z1
Here in 2013, we have Android phones with higher spec components that actually have better battery life than the same phone with lower spec components. See this link for proof of that: 모니터&모바일 - SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 LTE-A(SHV-E330) 배터리 테스트
That website used $10,000 worth of lab equipment to calibrate and test two Samsung Galaxy S4s. One with a Snapdragon 800 and the other with a Snapdragon 600. Everything else was exactly the same including battery capacity, software and screen brightness levels. They are the exact same phone except for the processor. Read the results for yourself if you want, but their independent tests proved that the Snapdragon 800-powered phone has 25% more battery life over the slower phone.
Your other point about Android requiring higher specs just to be barely as smooth as a iPhone or BlackBerry 10 is just simply laughably wrong.
That is a video of the Samsung Nexus S running Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. Now, let's keep in mind, that phone is 3 years old. It has a 1GHz single core processor and only 512mb of RAM, yet it is running Android 4.3. The best part? That phone will actually run the next version of Android even better than it was running Android 4.3, because Android 4.4 was designed to run on the 3 year old hardware found on phones such as the Nexus s.
How well do you think BlackBerry 10 would run on the Nexus S hardware? Ok, that was a trick question, since as we all know, BB10 requires at least a dual-core processor and 2GB of RAM to even function. A BlackBerry 10 device with the hardware from the Nexus S wouldn't be able to run at all.
Welcome to 2013!MarsupilamiX likes this.11-06-13 01:13 PMLike 1 - As was already mentioned, you're wrong on both points. It is like you opened up a tech magazine from 2010 and read about the cons of Android before you posted that comment.
Here in 2013, we have Android phones with higher spec components that actually have better battery life than the same phone with lower spec components. See this link for proof of that: 모니터&모바일 - SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 LTE-A(SHV-E330) 배터리 테스트
That website used $10,000 worth of lab equipment to calibrate and test two Samsung Galaxy S4s. One with a Snapdragon 800 and the other with a Snapdragon 600. Everything else was exactly the same including battery capacity, software and screen brightness levels. They are the exact same phone except for the processor. Read the results for yourself if you want, but their independent tests proved that the Snapdragon 800-powered phone has 25% more battery life over the slower phone.
Your other point about Android requiring higher specs just to be barely as smooth as a iPhone or BlackBerry 10 is just simply laughably wrong.
That is a video of the Samsung Nexus S running Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. Now, let's keep in mind, that phone is 3 years old. It has a 1GHz single core processor and only 512mb of RAM, yet it is running Android 4.3. The best part? That phone will actually run the next version of Android even better than it was running Android 4.3, because Android 4.4 was designed to run on the 3 year old hardware found on phones such as the Nexus s.
How well do you think BlackBerry 10 would run on the Nexus S hardware? Ok, that was a trick question, since as we all know, BB10 requires at least a dual-core processor and 2GB of RAM to even function. A BlackBerry 10 device with the hardware from the Nexus S wouldn't be able to run at all.
Welcome to 2013!
Posted from my Z30Saiga likes this.11-06-13 01:29 PMLike 1 - I think it will. I too have a playbook but given that I can't sideload Netflix on it, I use my Z10 and HDMI port for that. Too bad because it would have been nice to plug my Playbook into the TV and use my Z10 as the remote. No such luck. Can I do it the other way around? A reverse bridge? Not that I've heard so far. I suspect with the graphics quality and horsepower and the ability to load Crackle and Netflix you'll soon forget about your Playbook as I pretty much have. I hope you love your Z30 as my Z10 has me locked into a contract for a little while yet..11-06-13 01:32 PMLike 0
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- That really is the case with some people. I correct haters that say BlackBerry needs a battery pull everyday just to work, that they lag and that the screens are tiny the same as I do when people act like Android is still on Donut. At the end of the day, it's all misinformation.Taede likes this.11-06-13 01:40 PMLike 1
- Why do specs matter? Ask Playbook owners who were all eagerly awaiting their update to BB10 lol. When the PB was originally announced (remember..almost a full year before they actually got it to shelves) it's 1 GB of RAM actually was ahead of the competition. However, because it took another 10 months to get it to the public, by then, everything else was running 2GB. Of course, we all heard the " Who needs more specs, this thing is amazing" arguments thrown around by the diehards at the time. I would wager a fairly large chunk of money, that those people who were so desperately wanting BB10 on the PB were surely wishing their PB had come with the 2GB of RAM that was needed to run the BB10 OS (which was also touted to be the most efficient OS on the planet, yet needs 2 GB to run properly lol).
Or you could ask Z10 owners who were waiting for Miracast functionality..but they too, sadly, were disappointed when the Z10 "specs" weren't capable of it. There is actually a long list of "disappointments" from BBRY throughout it's history due to the fact that it STILL can't seem to compete with these so-called useless specs.11-06-13 01:46 PMLike 3 -
Bottom line is, specs (not to be confused with "benchmarks" *cough* Playbookster *cough*) matter.11-06-13 02:33 PMLike 0 - Actually, I never said anything about the Z30, you're just implying I did. You ranted about specs and asked why they mattered. I simply pointed to some very obvious reasons as to why they do. It's calledfuture proofing a device, so that no matter what, the device you purchased can still run things in a few years. This is why iPhone's 3 years old can still run the latest software, as can older Androids. Can the hardware from the Bold 9900 from 2012 run the latest and greatest software? No, because the hardware was a joke.
Bottom line is, specs (not to be confused with "benchmarks" *cough* Playbookster *cough*) matter.
Z10STL100-4/10.2.0.1791, waiting on VZW Z30Taede likes this.11-06-13 02:49 PMLike 1 - Can you explain why the benchmark scores are so varied? From 2100 to 3700? It's all over the place. Also I never saw your reply so your attitude really wasn't necessary. I couldn't even get through reading your post, learn how to talk to people with respect.
Posted from my Z30
Posted by the Zed 30 of rockivy11-06-13 02:57 PMLike 0 - 9900 was 2011. Say what you will about blackberry's sordid past (and I do frequently. There's an awful gap there), with the release of bb10 devices they will be much more future proofed. The specs on todays devices will be just fine on newer versions of qnx. Have you run ios7 on some of these older devices? There is a distinct difference between be able to run, and being able to run worth a crap. The only reason my Dad just bought a 5s. Just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should.
Z10STL100-4/10.2.0.1791, waiting on VZW Z30
With the Z10, you don't get Miracast or USB OTG and with the Q10 and Q5 you don't get USB OTG. How is that future proofed?
So let's use your logic. The Z10, Q10 and Q5 are less than a year old and they can sorda run the latest version of BlackBerry 10. Guess everyone needs to buy a Z30 since all of the other BlackBerry 10 devices are outdated now. After all, there is a distinct difference between being able to sorda run a OS, and being able to use all of the features found on an OS. Isn't there?11-06-13 02:59 PMLike 0 -
- Right, you must not be paying attention. If you had, you would have realized that the Z10, Q10 and Q5 are already obsolete. How could you consider them "future proofed" when their hardware already prevents them from using all of BlackBerry 10.2's features?
With the Z10, you don't get Miracast or USB OTG and with the Z10, Q10 and Q5 you don't get USB OTG. How is that future proofed?
So let's use your logic. The Z10, Q10 and Q5 are less than a year old and they can sorda run the latest version of BlackBerry 10. Guess everyone needs to buy a Z30 since all of the other BlackBerry 10 devices are outdated now. After all, there is a distinct difference between being able to run, and being able to use all of the features found on an OS. Isn't there?
Z10STL100-4/10.2.0.1791, waiting on VZW Z3011-06-13 03:18 PMLike 0 -
- Reading can be your friend. "Much more future proofed" is what I stated. Nowhere did I say every feature would be able to be backwards compatible. And frankly, it shouldn't be. Not saying the Z10 et al shouldn't be able to run miracast or have usb host capabilities. Seeing you have shown the propensity of reading what you want into statements to attempt to prove your points I figured I'd better clarify. But I do appreciate your condescending tone though.
Z10STL100-4/10.2.0.1791, waiting on VZW Z30
Just think, for an insignificant amount of money, BlackBerry could have equipped all the BlackBerry 10 devices with Miracast capable hardware and a USB OTG port. Then the Z10, Q10 and Q5 wouldn't already be too outdated to run the full BlackBerry 10 OS. After all, those items had existed for a long time before any of those phones came out. Oh well.
I hope BlackBerry is in the hardware business long enough to release another phone just so I can see what features the Z30 misses out on.11-06-13 03:31 PMLike 0
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