- Dear o Dear I just compare 3 albums with Mp3 and Flac
Depeche mode Sound of the Universe
U2 - Unforgatable Fire
Therapy - A brief Crack of light
I just move flipping throw numbers MP3 and same number Flac and what a difference.
I allready like MP3 but Flac give the sound more body and is much clearer . I love it.
There is a real diiference in sound experience using flac. The speakers are unbelievable great.
The Z30 speaker quality is equal and more clearer than my bluetooth BOSE mini speakersbbtino and readeharfield like this.11-28-13 06:08 PMLike 2 - Dear o Dear I just compare 3 albums with Mp3 and Flac
Depeche mode Sound of the Universe
U2 - Unforgatable Fire
Therapy - A brief Crack of light
I just move flipping throw numbers MP3 and same number Flac and what a difference.
I allready like MP3 but Flac give the sound more body and is much clearer . I love it.
There is a real diiference in sound experience using flac. The speakers are unbelievable great.
The Z30 speaker quality is equal and more clearer than my bluetooth BOSE mini speakers11-28-13 06:14 PMLike 0 - Even 256VBR LAME or 320kbps LAME are noticeably different from lossless to many people, depending on playback device and headphones/speakers used. Some can't tell a difference, good for them, but for those that notice better quality audio with lossless, FLAC is an excellent choice.11-28-13 09:02 PMLike 0
- I have 256 mostly and some 320 but with Flac it seems more clearer so I just replace some new albums and good old stuff. I mean it's mostly music and it's all good but some songs from Depeche Mode are rocking my baby.
I also let people at work hear the difference from mp3 320 and flac and the like the flac more so it seems for the hearing flac is nice and maybe on other speakers mp3 is better. I have no clue. I do what I like and share it, because never used flac before.11-29-13 01:27 AMLike 0 - If you want FLAC files, use ExactAudioCopy to get the pure, 100% lossless quality. This program not only will rip your files, but also give you a log file detailing the quality of your tracks.
I'm part of a very "elite" torrenting site for music (had to do an IRC interview in order to get invited to the site) and have had multitude of experience dealing with all sorts of types of music files. To just let you know, unless you're using your computer and a high end soundcard with studio monitor headphones or speakers, the true potential of FLAC will be mostly unnoticed. My casual listening choice of file is a V0 (VBR) MP3 file.
To give the OP a bit more information, if it is a properly ripped FLAC file converted to V0, the sound quality will be negligible, especially if you're listening to it on the Z30 speakers. This will save you valuable space, while not diminishing sound quality.11-29-13 08:31 AMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictV0 is actually the highest setting and quality you can achieve on a VBR-encoded MP3, but V2 setting is actually transparent enough to most people. If you have the time, do an ABX test first to know how much you can discern. Some even reported that a V6 setting sounds quite transparent to them! If that's the case, you're going to enjoy your music without having to load FLAC and 320 kbps music files on your SD, they take so much space.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105511-30-13 09:53 AMLike 0 - It comes down to the compression of the recording that your listening to in regards to sound quality. FLAC compressed music is at a higher bit rate and therefore takes up more data kps/mbs on your memory. It's closer to CD quality and has much more of a sound stage and transparency compared to mp3's at 320kps.
So any compression to the FLAC File through a converter program to save space in data will only alter the recordings sound quality negatively. More compression of the file shrinks the sound stage available to hear by loss of data.
Posted via CB1012-01-13 10:04 PMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictFLAC compression settings doesn't affect the quality. It doesn't even alter the data. It all differs in how much your computer can process the data. Higher compression, like the level 8 FLAC compression takes more time to decode. Compare it to a level 5 or even level 1 compression and everything is still the same.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-02-13 09:20 AMLike 0 - You are comparing 50 MB files to 4 mb mp3. I will try some flac now on the Z30 now that you mentioned it. I am intrigued.12-02-13 09:24 AMLike 0
- The flac files are very big but I just replace some CD's and all of 2013 most CD-s are between 500-800 Mb12-02-13 11:25 AMLike 0
- ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictFLAC isn't recommended if you're just a casual listener. Like I said, VBR MP3 -V 2 (190 kbps~) sounds great on most people. Or if you want, you can use AAC, which has a better compression algorithm, which makes a music file more smaller but quality's on par with high bit rate MP3s.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-03-13 02:54 AMLike 0 - FLAC isn't recommended if you're just a casual listener. Like I said, VBR MP3 -V 2 (190 kbps~) sounds great on most people. Or if you want, you can use AAC, which has a better compression algorithm, which makes a music file more smaller but quality's on par with high bit rate MP3s.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-03-13 08:23 AMLike 0 - It sound better than the MP3 320 en 256 and it just the experience I have with some albums. It's fine with me if MP3, ACC is beter but no one can't take away the hearing I have with flac for some albums on my speakers. I also experience one number using my headset that sounds better with MP3.12-03-13 09:05 AMLike 0
- If you want FLAC files, use ExactAudioCopy to get the pure, 100% lossless quality. This program not only will rip your files, but also give you a log file detailing the quality of your tracks.
I'm part of a very "elite" torrenting site for music (had to do an IRC interview in order to get invited to the site) and have had multitude of experience dealing with all sorts of types of music files. To just let you know, unless you're using your computer and a high end soundcard with studio monitor headphones or speakers, the true potential of FLAC will be mostly unnoticed. My casual listening choice of file is a V0 (VBR) MP3 file.
To give the OP a bit more information, if it is a properly ripped FLAC file converted to V0, the sound quality will be negligible, especially if you're listening to it on the Z30 speakers. This will save you valuable space, while not diminishing sound quality.
Most informative post in this thread BTW.12-03-13 09:11 AMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry Addict
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-03-13 10:16 AMLike 0 - Lol confirmation bias. I started at 128 back in the day when I had an old *** iPod, moved up to V2 and could still hear imperfections when listening to drum heavy tracks, moved on up to FLAC, and then dropped down to V0. Been sitting pretty here for 3 years now and couldn't be happier.12-03-13 10:21 AMLike 0
- ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictLol confirmation bias. I started at 128 back in the day when I had an old *** iPod, moved up to V2 and could still hear imperfections when listening to drum heavy tracks, moved on up to FLAC, and then dropped down to V0. Been sitting pretty here for 3 years now and couldn't be happier.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-03-13 10:49 AMLike 0 - And that was 3 years ago? LAME MP3 had several tweaks that makes it now sound good than before. Now, I'm not against what you prefer but if you do think you're a golden ear, why not do and pass the test? I've been studying psychoacoustics and such and I thought FLAC is the only way to go (it still is, but when using a portable device, not recommended) until I found out that I cannot hear any difference on a LAME 3.99.5 -V 2 encoded MP3 file to a FLAC, used an Alessandro MS1i headphone that's very revealing to mids and highs that are the first ones to be affected by artifacts due to bit rate. I cannot distinguish the FLAC and the -V 2 MP3. That's when I told myself that it's enough. At least I don't have to rip to a higher level setting just to have peace on my head that I'm using a V0.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-03-13 10:54 AMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictI know. I used the stock headphone jack on my PC that time. What I'm saying is, if you're going to use your Z30, will you use a separate portable DAC and amplifier? Mostly not. So the OP just needs to achieve the level of transparency. If he can pass a V2 MP3 vs FLAC test, then I think that's the time when he can go with V0. And it is also very informative as it let's you know what frequencies can you still hear. But if he doesn't, he should stick to V2, or maybe go lower, because if he cannot discern the difference between a V4 or V6 MP3 vs a FLAC, there's really no point going lossless on portable. That will be just a waste of space and processing power.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-03-13 11:02 AMLike 0 -
On topic: I've always gotten flac as my source. The great thing about flac is by keeping the lossless source on your mainframe, you have the ability to downmix to whatever format you like. If I get V2 as my source, I can never get V0 quality if one day I decide that's what I want.
As for my mobile devices, I transcode my flac down to V2. It's the highest quality level I can fit my entire music collection on my 32GB mSD card. I'll go V0 when I get a 64GB card.12-03-13 01:34 PMLike 0 - Nice. I'm on What as well. First time I've met a member of the community outside of the website.
On topic: I've always gotten flac as my source. The great thing about flac is by keeping the lossless source on your mainframe, you have the ability to downmix to whatever format you like. If I get V2 as my source, I can never get V0 quality if one day I decide that's what I want.
As for my mobile devices, I transcode my flac down to V2. It's the highest quality level I can fit my entire music collection on my 32GB mSD card. I'll go V0 when I get a 64GB card.
I know. I used the stock headphone jack on my PC that time. What I'm saying is, if you're going to use your Z30, will you use a separate portable DAC and amplifier? Mostly not. So the OP just needs to achieve the level of transparency. If he can pass a V2 MP3 vs FLAC test, then I think that's the time when he can go with V0. And it is also very informative as it let's you know what frequencies can you still hear. But if he doesn't, he should stick to V2, or maybe go lower, because if he cannot discern the difference between a V4 or V6 MP3 vs a FLAC, there's really no point going lossless on portable. That will be just a waste of space and processing power.
Z10STL100-1/10.2.1.105512-04-13 07:49 AMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry Addict
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