12-07-13 10:18 PM
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  1. ciabo's Avatar
    I'm gonna buy a Z10 right now from shop BlackBerry, the white version for my dad, I just need to know real quick if that version works with T-Mobile's LTE network

    Posted via CB10
    11-30-13 07:36 PM
  2. raino's Avatar
    It's the STL100-3, so yes he would get LTE on TMO.
    11-30-13 07:39 PM
  3. ciabo's Avatar
    It's the STL100-3, so yes he would get LTE on TMO.
    Thank you, I'm actually keeping the white and giving my dad the black I currently have

    Posted via CB10
    11-30-13 07:42 PM
  4. whosuredaddy69's Avatar
    where you able to buy your phone? I just tried and it told me the promo code is no longer valid.
    11-30-13 08:55 PM
  5. Omnitech's Avatar
    It's the STL100-3, so yes he would get LTE on TMO.
    And based on earlier reports, it's even the RFK121LW variant of the STL100-3, which is the best one for T-Mobile too. (Has 1700Mhz for UMTS, the RFF91LW that AT&T sells does not)

    I could never verify the claims from some people that if it is unlocked even the RFF91LW gains the 1700Mhz UMTS band.
    11-30-13 11:02 PM
  6. Omnitech's Avatar
    where you able to buy your phone? I just tried and it told me the promo code is no longer valid.

    When I went there yesterday to test, it automatically reduced the price to $199 in the cart, without me entering any promo code.
    11-30-13 11:03 PM
  7. whosuredaddy69's Avatar
    Me too but today it's not working for me.

    Posted via CB10
    11-30-13 11:13 PM
  8. 20degrees's Avatar
    Me too but today it's not working for me.

    Posted via CB10
    Did you add the promo code? BFEMAILZ10

    Looking for the real vijik. Q10
    11-30-13 11:19 PM
  9. raino's Avatar
    And based on earlier reports, it's even the RFK121LW variant of the STL100-3, which is the best one for T-Mobile too. (Has 1700Mhz for UMTS, the RFF91LW that AT&T sells does not)

    I could never verify the claims from some people that if it is unlocked even the RFF91LW gains the 1700Mhz UMTS band.
    Lol. I gave up on trying to prove/disprove the distinction between the two sub-variants. Now I throw in a couple of "unofficiallys" but deep down I think I've convinced even myself the two variants are the same. Maybe one of these days I'll get motivated enough to look through the FCC filings.
    11-30-13 11:21 PM
  10. nanda_s's Avatar
    It actually works for white phones.
    I just ordered one.

    If you already used the code try it in another browser.

    Q10 \m/
    11-30-13 11:23 PM
  11. ciabo's Avatar
    where you able to buy your phone? I just tried and it told me the promo code is no longer valid.
    yeah, I bought it from my current Z10
    11-30-13 11:36 PM
  12. whosuredaddy69's Avatar
    Wow I cant believe it did not work for me for some reason I had to have my wife create an account to buy it.
    12-03-13 03:37 PM
  13. modifier's Avatar
    Lol. I gave up on trying to prove/disprove the distinction between the two sub-variants. Now I throw in a couple of "unofficiallys" but deep down I think I've convinced even myself the two variants are the same. Maybe one of these days I'll get motivated enough to look through the FCC filings.
    Download an app called "Signal" (icon is blue) and run it on your unlocked 91LW. I bet it looks the same as a 121LW.

    Unlocked 91LW on Tmo:
    Z10 from shop BlackBerry and T-Mobile-img_00000226.png

    Posted via CB10
    Last edited by modifier; 12-06-13 at 07:28 PM.
    12-03-13 06:29 PM
  14. scrannel's Avatar
    And based on earlier reports, it's even the RFK121LW variant of the STL100-3, which is the best one for T-Mobile too. (Has 1700Mhz for UMTS, the RFF91LW that AT&T sells does not)

    I could never verify the claims from some people that if it is unlocked even the RFF91LW gains the 1700Mhz UMTS band.
    So, was OS comes with this phone and can you get wifi-calling to work on it?
    12-04-13 08:57 AM
  15. ralfyguy's Avatar
    My AT&T issued Z10 reports no 1700MHZ UMTS band using the Signal app.

    Posted via CB10
    12-04-13 09:47 AM
  16. raino's Avatar
    My AT&T issued Z10 reports no 1700MHZ UMTS band using the Signal app.
    Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

    Makes me wonder...does Signal actually detect the bands in the phone, or does it somehow just get your model# and display pre-programmed band information accordingly? Because there are a lot of people here who swear they're in TMO UMTS 1700 markets when they say they're getting 3G/HSPA+
    12-04-13 12:43 PM
  17. Omnitech's Avatar
    My AT&T issued Z10 reports no 1700MHZ UMTS band using the Signal app.
    That's no surprise if it's a locked device.

    However the contention was that if the device were unlocked, it would gain the 1700Mhz band just like the RFK121LW model.
    12-04-13 03:24 PM
  18. ralfyguy's Avatar
    That's no surprise if it's a locked device.

    However the contention was that if the device were unlocked, it would gain the 1700Mhz band just like the RFK121LW model.
    I had mine unlocked

    Posted via CB10
    12-04-13 03:25 PM
  19. Omnitech's Avatar
    I had mine unlocked

    Good to know, thanks.
    12-04-13 03:26 PM
  20. modifier's Avatar
    My AT&T issued Z10 reports no 1700MHZ UMTS band using the Signal app.
    The next question would be what OS you're using. If it's an OS installed or pushed by AT&T then the radio firmware won't have 1700 MHz. AT&T doesn't use or roam on 1700 so there's no reason why you'd need it anyway.

    If you're using a T-mo SIM but still using an AT&T issued OS then you need a generic build or one pushed by T-mo. The screenshot I posted above is a 91LW unlocked.

    As of today I have both an unlocked 91LW and 121LW and both show 1700 UMTS while on T-mo per the Signal app. The 91LW is running 10.1.0.4200 and the 121LW is running 10.1.0.4184 as shipped from BlackBerry.

    At this point I have no doubt that this is tied to the radio file in the -3 models.

    121LW:
    Z10 from shop BlackBerry and T-Mobile-img_00000001.png

    Posted via CB10
    12-06-13 07:20 PM
  21. ralfyguy's Avatar
    I'm running the latest .1803 Rogers release with an AT&T SIM.

    Posted via CB10
    12-06-13 07:42 PM
  22. Omnitech's Avatar
    So ralfyguy says he has an unlocked RFF91LW device on AT&T with an AT&T SIM, running a recent OS release, and doesn't show 1700Mhz UMTS available.

    This seems to conflict with what modifier is claiming. Or am I missing something?
    12-06-13 08:00 PM
  23. raino's Avatar
    So ralfyguy says he has an unlocked RFF91LW device on AT&T with an AT&T SIM, running a recent OS release, and doesn't show 1700Mhz UMTS available.

    This seems to conflict with what modifier is claiming. Or am I missing something?
    He's running a Rogers official OS, which I suspect does not "unlock" the UMTS 1700 band as modifier described.
    12-06-13 08:16 PM
  24. ralfyguy's Avatar
    OK here is what it shows with the filter off:
    Z10 from shop BlackBerry and T-Mobile-img_00000682.png
    Z10 from shop BlackBerry and T-Mobile-img_00000683.png
    Z10 from shop BlackBerry and T-Mobile-img_00000684.png

    Does turning off "filter active bands" mean that the "inactive" ones showing are part of the devices capabilities?

    Posted via CB10
    12-06-13 08:35 PM
  25. raino's Avatar
    Does turning off "filter active bands" mean that the "inactive" ones showing are part of the devices capabilities?
    Not inactive ones per se (except for, I guess, UMTS 1700 in your case,) but all the bands that are present across all different Z10s. So the "filter" basically hides the bands that are not present in your Z10.
    12-06-13 08:49 PM
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