11-16-13 11:38 AM
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  1. afl777's Avatar
    Having used my PC for online banking for a few years, I now find myself being the regular target, weekly, of Tanatos T keystroke logger that my anti virus finds....if I'm lucky .....before I log into the bank website. The PC is used for nothing else and spends most of the week even unplugged from the wall.

    Today, whilst at the bank clamping my account down tighter than a duck's backside, the manager at the bank caught sight of my BlackBerry and suggested I used the Z10 for the bank....as it's secure. But I don't know. Having so much anti virus stuff on the PC and some cretin still trying to hack, I'm very paranoid now about doing banking online.

    My question is this...how many of you trust the Z10...BB10...Blackberry to do your banking on?

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 12:07 PM
  2. rjk123's Avatar
    As in writing this, I'm also multitasking with two open banking apps. Secure and easy to use.

    Tapped out on Halle (Black)Berry aka Z10 running 10.2.0.1791
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    11-13-13 12:10 PM
  3. WZFoster's Avatar
    If you have an older computer buy a new hard drive and load a new version of windows, using only that computer for online banking. That is one good way to protect yourself. Also, in terms of AV software, I found anti-malwarebytes works incredibly well in-conjunction with your current AVS for taking down viruses/trojans etc that normal AVS can't catch, they've gotten me out of a few tricky situations.
    11-13-13 12:22 PM
  4. afl777's Avatar
    If you have an older computer buy a new hard drive and load a new version of windows, using only that computer for online banking. That is one good way to protect yourself. Also, in terms of AV software, I found anti-malwarebytes works incredibly well in-conjunction with your current AVS for taking down viruses/trojans etc that normal AVS can't catch, they've gotten me out of a few tricky situations.
    Excuse my perhaps stupid question....whereas I know a fair bit about a BlackBerry I don't understand viruses....does the virus get into the hard drive or onto the IP address?

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    11-13-13 12:55 PM
  5. nico2004's Avatar
    I do most of my banking on my Z10 you can pay bills, tranfer funds, set up payments ,etc, is a great tool.
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    11-13-13 01:00 PM
  6. Spades1234's Avatar
    I don't know of PC has an app for BB10 yet. They have a great one for CBC and RBC which even have NFC payments. I use TD banking and it works perfect, now if they could just update it with NFC payments.



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    11-13-13 01:02 PM
  7. Shifty88's Avatar
    Onto the hard drive. Typically from using shifty software or visiting bad websites. Basically, to avoid it in the first place, don't install software or visit websites that are unknown. It's just too dangerous out there. At the very least use Google to research whatever it is you wanna install.

    9700 ~ 9900 ~ Z10 STL100-3/10.2.0.1791
    11-13-13 01:03 PM
  8. OldSkoolVWLover's Avatar
    Z10 should be fine for banking and less likely to have someone "hack" it due to the number of devices compared to Windows. What version of windows are you running? If you are still on XP, you need to upgrade, XP will be EOL shortly and will become even more of a target with it no longer receiving any security patches.
    11-13-13 01:08 PM
  9. afl777's Avatar
    Onto the hard drive. Typically from using shifty software or visiting bad websites. Basically, to avoid it in the first place, don't install software or visit websites that are unknown. It's just too dangerous out there. At the very least use Google to research whatever it is you wanna install.

    9700 ~ 9900 ~ Z10 STL100-3/10.2.0.1791
    This is why I can't understand it. My PC is switched off, off at the elec socket too. It's on twice a week, straight onto the log in page of the bank which is my home page. I log in to the bank, check balance or pay a bill and out again. Switch off and unplugged. I never go onto sites, email accounts, absolutely nowhere. All it does is the bank twice a week. So I can't understand where this Tanatos T keystroke logger is coming from.

    I don't download anything onto it. When I update the anti virus I do it through the anti virus interface on the PC. It's a mystery. That's why I asked if it could be on the IP address.

    Everything else I do is on my Z10 or Playbook.

    I did explain to the bank that the PC only goes onto their website, which the manager was very interested in.

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 01:14 PM
  10. afl777's Avatar
    Z10 should be fine for banking and less likely to have someone "hack" it due to the number of devices compared to Windows. What version of windows are you running? If you are still on XP, you need to upgrade, XP will be EOL shortly and will become even more of a target with it no longer receiving any security patches.
    Yes it's XP.



    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 01:15 PM
  11. OldSkoolVWLover's Avatar
    Yes it's XP.



    Posted via CB10
    Might be time to buy a cheap refurb Win7 tower, that's what I did a few years back when we got tired of not having a full PC in the office (laptops and netbooks aren't good for practicing for typing tests and daily use).
    11-13-13 01:29 PM
  12. WZFoster's Avatar
    This is why I can't understand it. My PC is switched off, off at the elec socket too. It's on twice a week, straight onto the log in page of the bank which is my home page. I log in to the bank, check balance or pay a bill and out again. Switch off and unplugged. I never go onto sites, email accounts, absolutely nowhere. All it does is the bank twice a week. So I can't understand where this Tanatos T keystroke logger is coming from.

    I don't download anything onto it. When I update the anti virus I do it through the anti virus interface on the PC. It's a mystery. That's why I asked if it could be on the IP address. What anti virus provider do you use?

    Everything else I do is on my Z10 or Playbook.
    Posted via CB10
    Have you tried contacting your anti virus provider, or going to one of their forums for help? I know there are risks using a wifi network, I'd think that using your carriers 3G/4G network would be safer.
    11-13-13 01:30 PM
  13. non-vtec's Avatar
    winxp is a horrible OS for catching viruses and malware. get a windows 7 system up and running and do all the requires windows security updates and you won't have a problem.

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    11-13-13 01:30 PM
  14. afl777's Avatar
    Have you tried contacting your anti virus provider, or going to one of their forums for help? I know there are risks using a wifi network, I'd think that using your carriers 3G/4G network would be safer.
    Yes while I've been reading people's replies....and thank you all so much for helping and for the advice everyone....I can't help thinking that it's come in on the wifi....so maybe 3g would be better.

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    11-13-13 01:33 PM
  15. niss63's Avatar
    For your XP machine, I doubt that you've really eliminated the virus from your computer. Sometimes the virus is able replicate itself by masking itself as a legitimate file or launching from within the recycle bin. Since it is this old, just replace the computer and be done with it.

    As for banking with the Z10, that's something I do almost daily. Works like a champ and no worries about security.

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    11-13-13 02:23 PM
  16. OldSkoolVWLover's Avatar
    Yes while I've been reading people's replies....and thank you all so much for helping and for the advice everyone....I can't help thinking that it's come in on the wifi....so maybe 3g would be better.

    Posted via CB10
    I meant to mention that too, I think he was referring to wifi with your Zed and banking. I had meant to mention not to do banking on public wifi as it usually lacks additional encryption and is easily accessed by other users. Secured wifi or 3G/fauxG/LTE will be better than a public wifi access point.
    11-13-13 02:40 PM
  17. afl777's Avatar
    First. Thank you all for your comments, it always helps to straighten things out in ones minds when others contribute

    I think I need to research this keystroke logger and see if it is something that replicates itself....and then take the appropriate action, either with specialised 'get rid' program or by getting my friends eldest lad to sort it out.

    Last but one option will be to use the Z10.

    Totally last option, as funds are limited, will be to replace the PC with something new.

    Once again thank you all for helping xx

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 03:05 PM
  18. niss63's Avatar
    First. Thank you all for your comments, it always helps to straighten things out in ones minds when others contribute

    I think I need to research this keystroke logger and see if it is something that replicates itself....and then take the appropriate action, either with specialised 'get rid' program or by getting my friends eldest lad to sort it out.

    Last but one option will be to use the Z10.

    Totally last option, as funds are limited, will be to replace the PC with something new.

    Once again thank you all for helping xx

    Posted via CB10
    Funds are limited? Reformat the hard drive and install windows again. Start fresh and you won't have a virus. There isn't a keystroke logger made that will survive a scorched earth approach.
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    11-13-13 03:08 PM
  19. OldSkoolVWLover's Avatar
    Funds are limited? Reformat the hard drive and install windows again. Start fresh and you won't have a virus. There isn't a keystroke logger made that will survive a scorched earth approach.
    The only thing to watch for is if it's an HP/Compaq and could have the install on a partition, I believe those partitions are supposed to not be writable, but on an XP install who knows if the malware got access to the install partition. Just something to keep in mind, I've never had it happen on my HP/Compaq boxes to my knowledge.
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    11-13-13 03:20 PM
  20. Keith Atkinson1's Avatar
    Your XP OS and/or computer is out of date and is infected with Malware (you already new that). Though your efforts to disinfect it are laudable. I for one would not us it for banking or anything involving the transmission of data to another computer over the Internet. Use your blackberry for your banking until you are able to aquire a more up to date computer that will have all the necessary security features and will assist your antivirus software to ward off infection. Hope this helps.

    Posted via CB10
    11-13-13 03:45 PM
  21. Smitty13's Avatar
    Like most people are saying here, if the virus seems prevalent and rather hard to eliminate, I would start by reformatting my hard drive. Yes, it is a pain to have to backup any legitimate files then place them back onto your drive, but it is well worth peace of mind later on.

    Did you buy your computer new, or 2nd hand by chance? The reason I ask is that I have seen some less than reputable vendors selling used XP machines they have preloaded with some malware that sends information back to them. If you have a new computer, there is a good chance you either have: 1.) A recovery partition or 2.) A recovery CD/DVD. Both of these can be used to reload XP onto your machine as it was from the factory. If it is a recovery partition it is a matter of hitting Crtl+F8 (on most computers) during the start up, and it will bring you to a screen to restore your OS to new.

    Once that is complete, might I recommend a good, free anti-keylogger in Zemana?. You can just set it and forget it and it will do the work for you. Hope this helps!
    11-13-13 03:54 PM
  22. niss63's Avatar
    The only thing to watch for is if it's an HP/Compaq and could have the install on a partition, I believe those partitions are supposed to not be writable, but on an XP install who knows if the malware got access to the install partition. Just something to keep in mind, I've never had it happen on my HP/Compaq boxes to my knowledge.
    Thanks for the catch.

    You just sent me down memory lane. I haven't owned an HP or Compaq computer since '95? when I was new to the Web with a Compaq 486 dx2, brand new copy of windows 95, and a 28.8 modem. LOL

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    11-13-13 05:11 PM
  23. OldSkoolVWLover's Avatar
    Thanks for the catch.

    You just sent me down memory lane. I haven't owned an HP or Compaq computer since '95? when I was new to the Web with a Compaq 486 dx2, brand new copy of windows 95, and a 28.8 modem. LOL

    Posted via CB10
    Hahaha for the house I usually buy the cheap refurbs, I want to build a brand new HTPC but can't justify it right now. For what we do in the home office we don't need high end specs and can't really build a scratch setup for what I paid for my win7 Compaq.

    You are making me feel old, I started with a 386 I think and first modem was installed by me and was a 14.4... I remember when you wouldn't crack open a PC without the grounding wrist strap on.
    11-13-13 05:29 PM
  24. JerBru's Avatar
    I do all of my banking on my Z10.
    Mostly TD and Scotia
    11-13-13 08:23 PM
  25. qwerty4ever's Avatar
    This is why I can't understand it. My PC is switched off, off at the elec socket too. It's on twice a week, straight onto the log in page of the bank which is my home page. I log in to the bank, check balance or pay a bill and out again. Switch off and unplugged. I never go onto sites, email accounts, absolutely nowhere. All it does is the bank twice a week. So I can't understand where this Tanatos T keystroke logger is coming from.

    I don't download anything onto it. When I update the anti virus I do it through the anti virus interface on the PC. It's a mystery. That's why I asked if it could be on the IP address.

    Everything else I do is on my Z10 or Playbook.

    I did explain to the bank that the PC only goes onto their website, which the manager was very interested in.

    Posted via CB10
    The moment you installed Microsoft Windows and it was connected to the Internet your computer was vulnerable. I advise people to install Microsoft Windows before connecting it to the network and then activating Microsoft Windows post-installation. This generally prevents 99.9% of potential attacks. It sounds as though your computer was infected possibly by visiting a legitimate website that had been compromised; this is all too common these days. If your only use for the computer is on-line banking either use a LiveCD for a light version of GNU/Linux or do all your banking on the BlackBerry Z10. By the way, 99% of the attack vectors will not work on the BlackBerry 10 smartphones. I regularly bank via my smartphone and have never been compromised whether using their application or the bank's website.
    11-13-13 08:39 PM
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