1. h20work's Avatar
    In my opinion it's better that people jump on these BS posts as quickly as possible and discredit them within as few replies as we can. Within the riles of the forum of course.

    It's obvious that we can't get everyone to stop posting in them so they drop out of site, so at least anyone opening the thread can see the thread us full of crap right away. These shills are already doing enough damage with the thread titles.



    Ya, I am an unabashed BB supporter. Don't like that? Then put me on ignore.
    Shocking that many long time members quit with posts like this. Even more shocking that many new members are reluctant to post. Judging by the pms I've received asking me questions, they are


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    04-01-13 06:11 PM
  2. Canuck671's Avatar
    My problems with the z10 :

    1. It's not a Blackberry, it's a pos Android with a Blackberry badge REALLY?
    2. When you get to a point where Apple's push system works better than your BB's then you have a problem. 90% of apps that use push are useless on the z10 WHICH ONES DON'T WORK?
    3. No BIS means ****ty emails and that's why we loved Blackberry in the past. No matter how we try to spin it the email will never be the same on the BB. Excuse me, on the Android Z10. BIS IS GONE. HOW DOES THAT MEAN ****Y EMAILS?
    4. When you have to charge your phone 4 times a day with zero apps running in the background, you have a problem. SOUND LIKE A BAD BATTERY
    5. I talked to a couple of developers about creating apps that could improve the OS, all of them told me that they have no acces on the API'S so they are limited. Just like apple does it . Talked to the guy from Shao soft and hour said there's no way hour can create a basic app like Leave It On for the Z10
    THIS OS IS CLOSED FOR A VERY GOOD REASON. THE OS IS NEW. I AM SURE IT WILL BE IMPROVED

    I am a Blackberry addict not an Android fan. That's why my Z10 is going back to Verizon and I am reactivating my 9930

    I have never been so sad in my ******* life. To me Blackberry died after the 9930. Right before the Android Z10 came out

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    04-01-13 06:30 PM
  3. anon(5639363)'s Avatar
    Shocking that many long time members quit with posts like this. Even more shocking that many new members are reluctant to post. Judging by the pms I've received asking me questions, they are


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    If a "new poster" is wanting to post a thread titled something like "The z10 is crap because I can't figure out how to.. ." then in my opinion it's good they're reluctant to post.

    Since that is what we're talking about here.

    It's been explained emphatically by a number of people that we're not talking about people that post legitimate issues in a reasonable and respectful manner.



    Ya, I am an unabashed BB supporter. Don't like that? Then put me on ignore.
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    04-01-13 06:31 PM
  4. h20work's Avatar
    If a "new poster" is wanting to post a thread titled something like "The z10 is crap because I can't figure out how to.. ." then in my opinion it's good they're reluctant to post.

    Since that is what we're talking about here.

    It's been explained emphatically by a number of people that we're not talking about people that post legitimate issues in a reasonable and respectful manner.



    Ya, I am an unabashed BB supporter. Don't like that? Then put me on ignore.
    Not true unfortunately, go look at the paint peeling thread. Was total bs until the op posted a pic then "Oh that sucks "


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    04-01-13 06:43 PM
  5. brmiller1976's Avatar
    As a longtime BB user, I was HORRIFIED by the Z10.

    BIS is SO SLOW on the Z10! And the keyboard was mushy and didn't click at all. Plus, you'd think they would put a touchscreen on BlackBerry phones after all this time.

    And BlackBerry phones still don't run apps, because Apple invented those. So pathetic! Who would use such a loserphone?

    SOOOO glad I bought an iPhone 5! It's the bestest phone ever! I hope RIM goes bankrupt as a longtime BB user who just happened to create three new accounts to share my experiences! If you disagree with me, you're a total !D!0+!

    04-01-13 08:28 PM
  6. manonthemoon's Avatar
    My problems with the z10 :

    1. It's not a Blackberry, it's a pos Android with a Blackberry badge
    2. When you get to a point where Apple's push system works better than your BB's then you have a problem. 90% of apps that use push are useless on the z10
    3. No BIS means ****ty emails and that's why we loved Blackberry in the past. No matter how we try to spin it the email will never be the same on the BB. Excuse me, on the Android Z10
    4. When you have to charge your phone 4 times a day with zero apps running in the background, you have a problem.
    5. I talked to a couple of developers about creating apps that could improve the OS, all of them told me that they have no acces on the API'S so they are limited. Just like apple does it . Talked to the guy from Shao soft and hour said there's no way hour can create a basic app like Leave It On for the Z10


    I am a Blackberry addict not an Android fan. That's why my Z10 is going back to Verizon and I am reactivating my 9930

    I have never been so sad in my ******* life. To me Blackberry died after the 9930. Right before the Android Z10 came out

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    You do realize the BlackBerry Z10 on Verizon is using a old, unstable version of the BB10 OS. That could be the result of your poor battery life and the apps not pushing correctly. Mine is on AT&T with the newest version of the OS. I am getting awesome battery life, apps pushing and I do realize its a new OS and thus different from the past, but with a future!

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    04-01-13 09:07 PM
  7. anon(5828343)'s Avatar
    This site is for Blackberry enthusiasts, if you are not one you shouldnt be posting. READ THE FORUM RULES.
    Being a Blackberry "enthusiast" doesn't mean cheering every single thing and not wanting to see improvements. The reason why I posted my concerns about the Z10 is I would love to see OS improvements. I think that BBRY has done users a great disservice by putting out a device with so many flaws after BB users/enthusiasts have waited so long to see the Z10. What I've seen so far is not only far from perfect, I am also concerned that unless BBRY addresses the legitimate concerns expressed on this and other fora that the future of BBRY is doomed.
    04-01-13 09:29 PM
  8. anon(5828343)'s Avatar
    As a developer or organization, you have to pick and choose where you obtain your feedback from. It has to be focused and extremely informed for you to invest millions in resources. An open bashing forum offers neither of these features. Way too much noise to sift through. It's very naive to think every opinion will be worth considering or brings any value to e developer.
    If BBRY's objective is to appeal to new users and shift users from iOS and Android to BB10, how can it ignore opinions from those deemed not "focused and extremely informed". The basic target audience are folks who have never used BB10 and who are switching from another OS so how can they be "extremely informed". In this day and age, consumers are looking for tools and devices which don't require too much training to use which is the reason why so many manufacturers (including Blackberry) no longer include extensive user guides in their product packaging.

    Apple's success is the intuitive nature of their devices. Android is much the same. The BB10 should not require training to use and, so far, I am pretty happy that that is not the case. But discounting general consumer feedback -- expert or not -- would be at any developer's or manufacturer's peril. Ultimately, a large segment of those who post are hoping to be heard and to see changes. If a post is particularly offensive or expressed a wildly uninformed opinion, it is easy to just ignore it but it would be hard to tell someone who spent $600-$700 for a device (or $199 for a subsidized device) that their thoughts are irrelevant because they don't have the right expertise to venture their opinion.
    h20work likes this.
    04-01-13 09:37 PM
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