Verizon: Z10 lack of Instagram, Skype, Pandora - "it's a shame"
- Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
I suspect that if BBRY offered to pay for development AND maintenance, the outcome would be different.
It's not a small amount, so I'm not surprised BBRY would balk at that arrangement.05-10-13 08:15 PMLike 0 - I cannot believe you guys are justifying this.
Basically, y'all are saying it's ethically okay for me to take, say, BBM and port it to Android and iOS, right?
Screw BBM's intellectual knowledge. It's free, and if they really want to stop me, they can provide it officially.
Interesting.05-10-13 08:17 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesBBM has never been cross-platform. We're talking about apps that are literally available on every other platform except BB. Netflix, for example, is available on all other mobile platforms, plus the Xbox 360, PS3, Sony PS Vita, $99 DVD Players, HD TVs, Nintendo Wii... This list is not even exhaustive.bobauckland likes this.05-10-13 08:22 PMLike 1
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- I cannot believe you guys are justifying this.
Basically, y'all are saying it's ethically okay for me to take, say, BBM and port it to Android and iOS, right?
Screw BBM's intellectual knowledge. It's free, and if they really want to stop me, they can provide it officially.
Interesting.
CB10- BlackBerry Z1005-10-13 08:26 PMLike 0 - BBM has never been cross-platform. We're talking about apps that are literally available on every other platform except BB. Netflix, for example, is available on all other mobile platforms, plus the Xbox 360, PS3, Sony PS Vita, $99 DVD Players, HD TVs, Nintendo Wii... This list is not even exhaustive.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 205-10-13 08:30 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
I don't believe any developer should, in essence, be blackmailed into providing a service he/she doesn't or can't provide.05-10-13 08:30 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesIf it's a free app who cares? It's a sideload that was free on Android. If it's a pay app with the same features then yeah that's an issue. Do you really have an issue with me porting over netflix when I paid for their service, instagram when it's already free or Skype because I can't get it on the z10 yet? Get off your moral high horse. It's not taking bread off of someone's table then I could care less. They can port their app over to BlackBerry world it doesn't take that long. Go look at China if you're going to complain about intellectual property rights and patents they will copy anything and everything.
CB10- BlackBerry Z1005-10-13 08:32 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
*gallops away on his glorious steed named Moral High*bobauckland likes this.05-10-13 08:35 PMLike 1 - I subscribe to the belief that BBRY (and all developers) has/have the right to lawfully distribute it's/their intellectual property as it/they see fit.
I don't believe any developer should, in essence, be blackmailed into providing a service he/she doesn't or can't provide.05-10-13 08:38 PMLike 0 -
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 205-10-13 08:40 PMLike 0 - Where is the stealing? I pay for Netflix. The Netflix app is available for free. I don't get Netflix app support.05-10-13 08:41 PMLike 0
- Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
It's okay though, since "China does it."05-10-13 08:43 PMLike 0 -
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I am not 100% sure about the user base for the platforms but I wouldn't turn down the opportunity to reach tens of millions of customers. BlackBerry has worked hard to make this as painless as possible. I also seem to remember them offering their own devs if needed. Sounds like an easy process to me.
INSTAGRAM: "Hey Thors10, we would love to have our app on your platform but we just cannot spare the resources. Sorry"
Heins: "I'll send Alec, Alex, Chad, et al right over. We will get this bad boy knocked out and ready to roll by June"
INSTAGRAM: "Okay, great idea."
I guess I am a dreamer.R Field likes this.05-10-13 09:22 PMLike 1 - Maybe it's time for BlackBerry to limit sideloading to registered developers, as it was meant to be in the first place.
Posted via CB10bobauckland likes this.05-10-13 10:01 PMLike 1 - Wow @mset, relax this is a place for all people interested and who love blackberry. dave bourque is just a kid. don't be so harsh on him.05-10-13 10:02 PMLike 0
- It's actually funny you mention this because at work I have one dedicated computer for side loading apps. At first it was for me to try but then I started offering it to customers.
I've done it for a lot of people and they are happy with the phone and the side loaded apps.
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- how they can do this themselves,
- that you're NOT the person to contact for troubleshooting of if it affects their monthly bill do to data overages, or negatively affects the performance of their phones.
I'm sure BlackBerry would frown on your for doing this - even though they recognize your helping customers and continuing sales ... just be very clear and careful, cool?
(PS: Im sure you've thought of it ... but always be mindful).bobauckland likes this.05-10-13 10:10 PMLike 1 - As I've said many times there isn't much BlackBerry can do other than bribe and setup resources for developpers... BlackBerry Developer <loaded with resources...
The best alternative is to seek licensing and permission for BlackBerry to develop the applications for such big app names themselves.
This takes the responsibility for support, removes costs for development time for updates on features or bug fixes, and all the benefits of advertisement and clout for these development houses.
PS: BlackBerry has long did this for Twitter, FaceBook, and Youtube (Google), so why stop there?
bobfranklin likes this.05-10-13 10:13 PMLike 1 - I'll try to keep it as civil as I can. This is actually a good discussion.
By the time they finally made the decision to abandon their legacy BBOS, they were very big in business. That was late 2009/early 2010, cause in April 2010 they bought QNX. In mid 2007 the iPhone came out. The question is: should've Balsillie and Lazaridis immediately have screamed out scared to death as the first iPhone hit the market?
Bottom line is that I still disagree with your contention that Blackberry is/was struggling because AAPL/Android were/are 'eating it's customers'. You have the causal relationship backwards there.
The other story is the OS. I think you underestimate the complexity here. BB had a healthy business model with an installed userbase relying on a special infrastructure, which was developed on top of their decade-old matured OS. So is it so simple to ditch something you were working on for so many years? And how to do this transition while maintaining the value proposition for the installed enterprise user base? And finally: what OS to take next? Android or something own? Tough, really tough decisions here.
You must have me mixed up with someone else. I made no such claim. I simply said that I wondered about it, and I have said many times that I'm not a programmer and don't have the tech knowledge necessary to make such determinations.Last edited by mset; 05-11-13 at 02:07 AM.
05-10-13 10:18 PMLike 0 - Consumers move quicker than businesses... business developers don't port their apps, consumers will do it for them... BlackBerry stops the porting capability, their kill their potential come back... If developers realize how easy it is to port and play catch up, consumer behavior shifts to no longer self por and developers increase their surface area the way it should be through BlackBerry App world where their app is officially offered...
BlackBerry knows what their doing and it's a damn good decision if you ask me... people port away and developers will eventually give us what we really want... apps make specifically for BlackBerry os integrated with our widgets05-10-13 10:26 PMLike 0 - I don't know how similar my experience is to other people's. But I took a leap of faith when I bought a Z10. I like a lot about the BB10 experience. However i committed to a BlackBerry for the next two years hoping they would be able to bring the apps everyone else uses to the platform. Being a long term BlackBerry user I'm used to not having the apps my friends and family have. I'm used to feeling in some way left out of what's going on because of my choice of smartphone. The problem is, most people are simply not willing to put up with it, and so will avoid buying a phone which leaves them I this situation. A lot of people don't have much brand loyalty, they just want the phone that allows them to do everything they want to do, and what everyone they know is doing, regardless of the manufacturer. It is for this reason BlackBerry has such a small market share. For a lot of people, buying a BlackBerry means not being able to do the things they want to do with their phone. Unless BlackBerry tackles this problem they are going to stay just where they are, with a small but dedicated customer base, but not much more. I wish this wasn't the case, but i'm struggling to see how it can change, unless the app ecosystem changes, or apps move to browser based services. I'm going to stick with BlackBerry for the foreseeable future, but every time I'm unable to use an app that the majority of people I know use, i waiver a little bit.
Posted via CB1005-10-13 10:29 PMLike 2 - I completely understand this. Skype is absolutely essential for my business and I almost returned my Z10 when I discovered it didn't have Skype. It was only finding out that it is coming that has kept me hanging on while I use my laptop. However, the wait has really been stretching out. Worse is that I really haven't been recommending it to anyone until Skype comes out to avoid their own discovery of this issue.
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