Do you have a link ???
Do you have a link ???
I totally concur. It can't be all things to all ppl, but it's a fantastic start. I happen to be fortunate (in this particular case, anyway) to have gmail accounts. Yesterday I was in a meeting with an engineer and needed to shag an email from about 6 months ago. I had already bookmarked the gmail site so I jumped on it and got the email. It was about as fast as accessing the native email app. That's a work around for me, others may not have this option.
....although, if a person is feels committed, and can do it, setting up a gmail account (if nothing else temporary) to forward email to it, it could hold one over until BBRY fixes this limitation.
Just a thought....
Wrong. Perhaps you should try before you post.
Michael Clewley's tweet about this is somewhere in this thread that is already too long.
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I don't claim in any way to speak for everyone, but I am most definitely an email power user.. hundreds of emails per day.. and for me personally a 30 day would be fine IF the server side search worked with Google Apps over EAS, but for whatever reason it doesn't.
As someone else posted above, I have also chosen to add a bookmark to the gmail mobile site to the home screen to dig up those emails which are more then 30 days old.. it's not ideal, but it is a functional work around for now.
I certainly think the option to choose any time frame for sync that you want should be available.. but if the server side search ever becomes an option, I would probably choose to keep it at 30 days.
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About 60% will be staying with their bolds.. the rest might consider windows.
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The know that the Z10 keyboard kills the other phones . on the other hand, they don't like to be limited to one option, given that old devices can do better when it comes down to email retaining..
They don't care about apps, they love the device, but this is the only reason.
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I set my work 9780 for 15 days due to the amount of emails I get on a daily basis. I archive everything else on my laptop. Not an issue for my IT department.
Looking forward to trying out my work Q10 later on this spring/summer.
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I would feel the same, pulling out a Galaxy II in public...so embarrassing
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I would feel the same, pulling out a Samsung S2 in public at the airport, soooo embarrassing
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My initial reply was not about personal preferences. In fact I avoided the previous discussions when it came to individuals. It was about the OP stating it was corporate decision. It perplexes me why a company looking to deploy 1500 devices as he stated does not have a viable CRM system that can be accessed by a smart phone. A company that size relying on email for document retention? I don't get it.
its funny how people are trying to justify what is obviouy a limitation.
and this is the biggest deal breaker for me also.
and 2 days ago i realized how important it was. i was on the phone with a company trying to return an item and i needed the email invoice dated 2 months ago. it was a pain going to the browser and searching for it.
while on the iphone and windows phone you can have your email from anytime.
and people who say you can search, well it the search is also limited to 30 days , so its worthless.
those who think and hope what this will be fixes, dont get your hopes up. this has been an issue since the release of the playbook. and if u check the forums, people complained about it. they didnt. fix it ans released bb10 with the same limitation. it must be a technical difficulty or they dont care.
either way, chances are it will remain the same and thats a shame.
Lumia 920 keyboard is GREAT, not usre why you would think differently unless you have never used it and just assuming.
Well if you feel the thread is "too long" you can gladly move on. A lot of good information is being passed along in this thread.
PS. BTW Alec Saunders also "tweeted" Skype would be available when Z10 would hit the US..........ummmmm
Oh ya. First thing I think of as I'm walking into the office each day.
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You should read my post properly and not jump into conclusion. I had not said that one is better than the other. I had merely said to make sure IT test Lumia's keyboard (to ensure that it is what the business users want)
Those who don't work for mega law firms don't get to classify.....
...What's important to mega law firms.
...Cases often last MONTHS & months.
Our CRM is used by Sales Consultants and those who manage them...
...Our DMS is used by Admin, Managers and people in service & parts.
...Both require a VPN if outside our Domain.
Aside from setting up profiles & permission sets in those two systems I don't use them....
...What I'm saying is NONE of my email goes through the CRM.
...I'm guessing that there are a lot of other I.T. people who's email doesn't either.
****, we are still manually backing up onto "tape" and it's served us just fine...
...Blackberry must fix this and stop using "sour grapes" theology when something looks difficult for them.
....I'm not saying this about you mkelley, I'm calling BBRY out on this.
BBRY lost market share because they didn't realize certain things were THAT important to people.....
...Now, it looks as if they are actually starting to CULL those very things they initially got right.
...By using a sour grapes thought process ( i.e. 'people don't really need that anyway' ).
Aesop's Fable 'Sour Grapes' - YouTube
sorry for not reading page 3-5, it's just too much text, even for a saturday afternoon. Might I still ask one question?
This 30 day limit you're talking about concerns only e-mail on the Z10 harddrive, doesn't it? You can still server search your MS Exchange mail, can't you?
In this case I wouldn't be bothered by a 30 days cap at all.
Thanks in advance for clearing this up and - again - sorry for not reading the whole thing.
Go to your account settings for this faulty account. It will advise if there is a problem with credentials. Also, can you log onto that mailbox via computer web browser?
BesAdmin Z10 User
I won't pretend to justify why BB limited e-mail storage on a BB10 smartphone to 30 days. I am pretty sure it would be by design and is not a "bug", "limitation", or any other pejorative term.
I would not consider those who are organised to be "fools" if they don't see a need to keep a smartphone cluttered with mostly old and useless data that would inevitably downgrade device performance.
What I do question is the size of the market for loading down a smartphone with mountains of old e-mails as a proxy to a document record management system. To me, a business so disorganised as to require a high tech solution to go through mounds of garbage to find a rare useful item cannot be very good at what it does. Then again, it is not up to the phone maker to decide what businesses are good and design phones around their needs and which ones are not and ignore those businesses' wants,. The ultimate goal is to sell phones to as many businesses as possible.
From what I understand, this very _minor_ limitation by design will be changed. This is likely in response to the feedback process any good firm uses to fine tune an offering.
I might recommend that BB also put up a pop-up warning window about keeping very large quantities of e-mails will impact device performance lest the people now whining about the 30 day limit on e-mails start complaining that BB10 devices start becoming laggy and slow while trying to manage thousands of old e-mails.
Another Fanboy defense lawyer SMH....You know by starting off you post with "I won't pretend to justify why BB limited e-mail storage on a BB10 smartphone to 30 days." but then trying to justify it the rest of the post is pointless right??
First off you try to justify BB10 LIMITATION by assuming people who want to store their emails longer than 30 days must have their device " cluttered with mostly old and useless data". Maybe you are not in a situation where all of your emails are useless junk but some of us actually get important and useful data emailed on a daily basis.
I'm also glad "From what I understand, this very _minor_ limitation by design will be changed." But from what YOU understand mean actually NOTHING to the rest of us. From what I understood organizing my bookmarks of my playbook was gonna be a minor limitation that would be fixed. We all know how that turned out.
You can recommend blackberry put out a pop-up window about device performance to help all of us "whining" about the situation. Just make sure they change it please. You know back to how it was on our previous devices.....when it was considered a asset...before bb10 got rid of it and now fanboys can't understand how it is useful at all.
Check your settings. I use active sync for my office email. We use outlook 10 and set to push email. I get my emails instantly!
Depends on your version of Exchange. Many people refuse to upgrade and are still on legacy Exchange systems. Search will not work on versions prior to MS Exchange 2007. The current version is MS Exchange 2013. I also suspect many of those Exchange 2003 systems are running on 2003 era hardware. No way I'd trust something so vital to 10 year old equipment.
Thank you for your answer mkelley65. I'm on a hosted MS Exchange 2010 so I should be good. Thanks again!