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  1. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Lol what? Z10 was Blackberrys flagship for bb10.

    Review is correct, bbry phones are no way near as good as similarly priced android or iOS devices.
    I would agree with you if I hadn't left Apple. You are wrong.

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    12-22-13 02:17 PM
  2. EddieAIG's Avatar
    I would agree with you if I hadn't left Apple. You are wrong.

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    Sales, specs and reviews speak for themselves.
    12-22-13 02:20 PM
  3. Darth Wader's Avatar
    [QUOTE=revelations65;9743941]
    ......who aren't in the pocket of Apple, thing is Apple have a long history in the marketing and media world so that sector is never going to give a meaningful review.

    You make a very good point, I believe that Apple has many of these reviewers on the books, kickbacks new phones etc, I will give Apple one thing they can market a product, and Blackberry must improve on this part of the business, because the product is good very good,
    It's no surprise that there are bloggers out there who get paid by companies to write a positive review about their products just like there are doctors out there who are rewarded by big pharmaceuticals for prescibing their drugs.

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    12-22-13 02:22 PM
  4. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    I thought the internal storage was limited to 16gb ? Sd card is pointless when you can't put apps there.
    You don't use documents pictures videos ??? Many other things can go in there. Meaning you can reserve a full 16gb of apps.

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    12-22-13 02:24 PM
  5. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Sales, specs and reviews speak for themselves.
    Sales don't come into account when you review something. Specs mean nothing if the system runs smoothly.

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    12-22-13 02:25 PM
  6. EddieAIG's Avatar
    You don't use documents pictures videos ??? Many other things can go in there. Meaning you can reserve a full 16gb of apps.

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    I use more then 16GB for apps. That's why I have the 64gb iPhone 5s.
    12-22-13 02:29 PM
  7. EddieAIG's Avatar
    Sales don't come into account when you review something. Specs mean nothing if the system runs smoothly.

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    What ? Obviously it impacts the devices performance when running certain apps.
    12-22-13 02:30 PM
  8. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    What ? Obviously it impacts the devices performance when running certain apps.
    Other than games. What app needs high performance ?

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    12-22-13 02:31 PM
  9. koves's Avatar
    It's ironic that the guardian actually has a pretty decent app for the phone they chuck away. The baldy guy slates the z10 because it's gesture based yet raves how easy the new iPhone is to use when you swipe around.

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    I noticed that too - facepalm

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    12-22-13 02:34 PM
  10. EddieAIG's Avatar
    Other than games. What app needs high performance ?

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    The productivity/media apps that don't exist on Bb10.
    12-22-13 02:35 PM
  11. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Guess I'll delete their app rofl.

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    12-22-13 02:35 PM
  12. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    The productivity/media apps that don't exist on Bb10.
    List please. I have these apps. Which ones are you referring too exactly.

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    12-22-13 02:36 PM
  13. EddieAIG's Avatar
    List please. I have these apps. Which ones are you referring too exactly.

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    Do you want me to list the 1 million more apps in the apple App Store ? Productivity apps such as vjay, is much faster thanks to apples 64bit processor in my iPad air.
    12-22-13 02:42 PM
  14. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Do you want me to list the 1 million more apps in the apple App Store ? Productivity apps such as vjay, is much faster thanks to apples 64bit processor in my iPad air.
    .... not all 1 million apps are required.... what is the function of these apps... photo shop ??? note taking ??? What are you on about.... yes i realize the power of the A7 chip.

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    12-22-13 03:12 PM
  15. lynxs_claw's Avatar
    .... not all 1 million apps are required.... what is the function of these apps... photo shop ??? note taking ??? What are you on about.... yes i realize the power of the A7 chip.

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    Dave, don't be fooled by the benchmarks for the A7 chip.. running on iOS7, the overall processing runs like crap. iphone is a fast app launcher .. nothing more.

    Had to do a benchmark against my buddy's 5s cause he's alway toting how fast it is.. he even closed out all the apps on his iphone. Me .. for **** and giggles left Shadowgun running in the background. We booted up Minion Rush and as I expected (cause my daughter i-touch v. 5.0 also runs this game extemely crappy) you can't get 60 fps out of the iphone 5s.. but it runs silky smooth on my z10 (and on my daughter's q5 BTW). His only comment was .. "fast enough" ... what a joke these benchmarks are and even more the jokers who believe them.
    12-22-13 03:45 PM
  16. scrannel's Avatar
    This is typical low-brow, UK crap. The Guardian makes Fox News look legit. It's like getting angry at an autistic child.
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    12-22-13 03:50 PM
  17. sixpacker's Avatar
    The Guardian is a rag, hardly a trustworthy source of news or factual opinion.
    The Guardian is one of the most respected newspapers in the UK.

    They had a view, you didnt agree with it.

    The market agreed with them not you.

    BB10 could have been great, it wasnt. TAT were stifled by the suits from Waterloo.
    12-22-13 04:09 PM
  18. wtrmlnjuc's Avatar
    BB10 could have been great, it wasnt. TAT were stifled by the suits from Waterloo.
    My thoughts exactly.
    12-22-13 04:27 PM
  19. scrannel's Avatar
    The Guardian is one of the most respected newspapers in the UK.

    They had a view, you didnt agree with it.

    The market agreed with them not you.

    BB10 could have been great, it wasnt. TAT were stifled by the suits from Waterloo.
    Agree or not, the Guardian is a rag. They are a very whiny, populist pseudo-left tabloid -- and I am very left wing.

    From Wikipedia:
    Founded by textile traders and merchants, The Guardian had a reputation as "an organ of the middle class", or in the words of C.P. Scott's son Ted "a paper that will remain bourgeois to the last". In other words, despite it's posturing it's cheap paper.

    Look, let's be clear about these "reviews" given by the non-tech press: they have to write something. And what sells is what people want to hear. I remember when Android first came out (and I am not a big fan of Android) reading reviews like this and just sort of stunned by the obvious lack of diligence and -- at the bottom -- obvious lack of real product experience. And then to see these bozos driving market opinion...
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    12-22-13 04:39 PM
  20. aha's Avatar
    there issue is apps, the almighty apps,
    Check out 10.2.1.1259, I found all the apps I need plus more from Snap
    12-22-13 04:46 PM
  21. Darth Wader's Avatar
    The Guardian is one of the most respected newspapers in the UK.

    They had a view, you didnt agree with it.

    The market agreed with them not you.

    BB10 could have been great, it wasnt. TAT were stifled by the suits from Waterloo.
    The market did not agree with them. They agreed with the market. They offered their opinion on the Z10, which is arguable.

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    12-22-13 04:56 PM
  22. Donvald's Avatar
    This is typical low-brow, UK crap. The Guardian makes Fox News look legit. It's like getting angry at an autistic child.
    Honestly, you are doing this site or your credibility no favours with a blatantly foolish statement. The Guardian is internationally respected whether you like it or not. A critical review of a smartphone which you like, changes nothing. Comparing the Guardian to the likes of Fox news is laughable until its apparent you aren't joking.

    Then it becomes embarrassing.
    12-22-13 05:09 PM
  23. goku_vegeta's Avatar
    Are they only credible if they share your views? Blackberry phones are sub par at best, but if you want to believe otherwise go ahead. The market has spoken about BB10 devices, no one wants them.
    The market will take pretty much anything that's given to them if marketed properly. Remember Pet Rocks?
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    12-22-13 05:12 PM
  24. poisonfree's Avatar
    Startet with iphone 2G, 3GS, 4s. Then saw the 5s and tried just for fun the Zed 10. Now no longer an apple fan boy (except OSX).

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    12-22-13 05:15 PM
  25. Ahmed Ragab's Avatar
    My friend has an HTC one cuz its almost top smartphone on any tech website , and when he used my z30 he felt like his phone was too damn boring and he felt like changing it really soon
    12-22-13 05:21 PM
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