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  1. Billy-X's Avatar
    hello guys
    i've 2 version of z10 and like to share a video compare for you guys

    here's the video (sorry for shaky camera)



    STL100-1 3G White
    STL100-2 4G LTE Black
    Both using latest firmware (10.0.10.82 for stl100-1 & 10.0.10.90 for stl100-2)

    Specs:
    STL100-1 = Texas Instruments OMAP 4470 (SoC) which has a dual-core CPU running at 1.5 GHz and a PowerVR SGX 544 GPU

    STL100-2 = Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Plus (SoC) which has a dual-core CPU running at 1.5GHz, and a Adreno 225 GPU

    some pics:


    have a different backside

    just for fun, OREO


    ps: sorry for my bad english
    Cap_172R, sakin13, divakar and 3 others like this.
    03-17-13 11:52 PM
  2. Cap_172R's Avatar
    Great post here, this should hopefully help alot of those out there asking about the differences in the -1 and -2 devices. Although they use two different chipsets, in reality it's hard to actually see the difference in performance (which alot of people were debating recently)
    03-18-13 12:47 AM
  3. mafzm's Avatar
    Wow...never knew the spec are that different. T_T

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    henrymei2005 likes this.
    03-18-13 01:18 AM
  4. nfsw's Avatar
    Thanks for this video comparison. Very noticable difference in CPU speed !!

    Have you used wifi for browsing ??

    In India, we get only STL100-1 I guess...
    03-18-13 01:51 AM
  5. MattUK's Avatar
    The early seed units where also -1 and can be identified by their IEMI number range
    03-18-13 02:13 AM
  6. Lizzo69's Avatar
    lol good comparison.. but i have a -1 with the s4 processor.. but just to be sure, can u post a pic of the legal info for both phones? mines says "qualcomm powered" so i'm wondering what the other type will say
    03-18-13 02:36 AM
  7. BB_Bmore's Avatar
    Will say "Qualcomm Powered"

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    03-18-13 02:46 AM
  8. Billy-X's Avatar
    Thanks for this video comparison. Very noticable difference in CPU speed !!

    Have you used wifi for browsing ??

    In India, we get only STL100-1 I guess...
    Yes I'm using same wifi ^^. I notice stl100-2 render faster than stl100-1

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    03-18-13 06:31 AM
  9. Billy-X's Avatar
    lol good comparison.. but i have a -1 with the s4 processor.. but just to be sure, can u post a pic of the legal info for both phones? mines says "qualcomm powered" so i'm wondering what the other type will say
    All stl100-1 is ti omap, not s4 sir

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_Z10

    Because s4 is for lte
    You can check setting & mobile network
    See, is there a 4g or not? if your z10 doesn't have 4g thats mean your z10 cpu is ti omap

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    03-18-13 06:37 AM
  10. Daveensannie's Avatar
    The black is much faster with launching apps ? strange
    03-18-13 07:05 AM
  11. Morten's Avatar
    All stl100-1 is ti omap, not s4 sir

    BlackBerry Z10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Because s4 is for lte
    You can check setting & mobile network
    See, is there a 4g or not? if your z10 doesn't have 4g thats mean your z10 cpu is ti omap

    Posted via CB10
    Not quite...

    Some carriers call their HSPA networks 4G, and use the STL100-1 .. so the selections of radio bands does not say what type of device you have...
    03-18-13 07:22 AM
  12. koolpep's Avatar
    If you have a stl100-1 you have the ti omap chipset. The legal text has nothing to do with it.

    Sorry guys (I have the stl100-2 as well)

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    03-18-13 07:29 AM
  13. koolpep's Avatar
    @lindstrom

    Well if he would have said LTE then his statement would be correct. ;-)

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    03-18-13 07:31 AM
  14. Silverfern's Avatar
    Wind calls its hspa+ network 4g while the speed is about 2mb per second most of the time, slower than 3G

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    03-18-13 07:44 AM
  15. schmeat's Avatar
    I have the -3, does that use the s4 processor?

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    03-18-13 07:46 AM
  16. Morten's Avatar
    @lindstrom

    Well if he would have said LTE then his statement would be correct. ;-)

    Posted via CB10
    yes and no - you never know what the different carriers choose to have as text for the different radio bands...

    The only way to really tell - is to see if you have a stl100-1 or not... , and that is just as easy as to find the radios...
    03-18-13 08:10 AM
  17. koolpep's Avatar
    Touch

    You are right.

    Schmeat only the stl100-1 has the ti omap so you have the s4 plus :-)

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    03-18-13 08:27 AM
  18. koolpep's Avatar
    Oh I mistyped earlier I have the -1

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    03-18-13 08:28 AM
  19. vulfadli's Avatar
    Not quite...

    Some carriers call their HSPA networks 4G, and use the STL100-1 .. so the selections of radio bands does not say what type of device you have...
    I have a stl100-2 and have both 3g and 4G network and even when I'm on 3g only (manually set) I can get hspa what does that mean?

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    03-18-13 09:01 AM
  20. Morten's Avatar
    I have a stl100-2 and have both 3g and 4G network and even when I'm on 3g only (manually set) I can get hspa what does that mean?

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    The whole "4G" thing is a huge mess - and whomever decided to start using the word should be fired - or shipped out to some distant planet on a one-way-ticket.

    Different carriers use "4G" differently...

    "4G" is NOT a defined standard - but a hype word invented by marketing people - who try to fool the public.

    Carriers who only have GSM, WCDMA and HSPA - tends to use "4G" for their HSPA service,
    other carriers choose to use 4G for their LTE service - and H/H+ for their HSPA service...
    some do it correct - and don't use "4G" at all - but instead let the user Know if H+, or LTE is used,
    some carriers will make your phone show "4G" for HSPA, and "4G LTE" for LTE - which is still wrong - but at least a little bit better...

    LTE is not available everywhere - HSPA seems to be better distributed at the moment - so some users will only get a LTE service when in a bigger city, and H+ while at home...

    on top of that, - LTE and HSPA are only a dataservice, and when doing voice calls - you will most likely see the service drop to use GSM/2G/3G service - and again - depending on the carriers branding in the OS - you will see different names for it... but in your radio set-up, you should always make sure to have 2G service enabled together with your HSPA or LTE service - NOT locking your device to LTE only..... - sometimes it will work - but you can also experience that incoming calls does not go through if you do...
    03-18-13 09:18 AM
  21. Lizzo69's Avatar
    All stl100-1 is ti omap, not s4 sir

    BlackBerry Z10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Because s4 is for lte
    You can check setting & mobile network
    See, is there a 4g or not? if your z10 doesn't have 4g thats mean your z10 cpu is ti omap

    Posted via CB10
    actually my z10 says 4g.. and i was doing the same tests in timing with your video and the games launched, and loaded the same time as the -2 phone.
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    03-18-13 10:19 AM
  22. koolpep's Avatar
    You have the -2 phone then. Take a screen shot of the settings page where your model number is mentioned. The About page. Many thanks.
    03-18-13 12:11 PM
  23. Lizzo69's Avatar
    You have the -2 phone then. Take a screen shot of the settings page where your model number is mentioned. The About page. Many thanks.
    Here u go..

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    Attached Thumbnails Blackberry Z10 : STL100-1 VS STL100-2 (video compare)-uploadfromtaptalk1363628470930.jpg  
    03-18-13 01:41 PM
  24. Morten's Avatar
    actually my z10 says 4g.. and i was doing the same tests in timing with your video and the games launched, and loaded the same time as the -2 phone.
    TSTT is even weirder than most...

    they call their HSPA+ "4G"... and STE100-1 is a very good HSPA machine...

    but even weirder - is that they group it as "2G", "4G+3G" ... their 4G is in reality 3G .. so what is it they call 3G ? - old "Edge"?

    "TSTT 4G - but not really 4G" :-)

    Remember - TSTT does not cover the whole of Trinidad (or Tobago) with their HSPA network... therefore you MUST have "2G" enabled to avoid missing incoming calls - or to get busy network trying to call out. - They also have some issues with "jumping" between HSPA and GSM - so expect drop outs until they manage to smooth out the net.
    skibnik likes this.
    03-18-13 01:54 PM
  25. koolpep's Avatar
    Ok so your providers 4G is not LTE. We established that.

    Now what are the results from www.speed-battle.com

    If you could go there with your browser and let us know?

    Cheers,
    K

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    03-18-13 02:04 PM
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