1. HyperM3's Avatar
    Id been so psyched and hyped about the z10 since the announcement. I had been a die-hard BB fan for several years in the past. I was looking forward to getting away from the Android experience Ive been using for the past couple years.

    I went into my local Best Buy yesterday to play with the phone. I knew a couple guys there and they are heavy phone users like myself, updating ROM's and whatnot.

    I spoke to the guy who had the Z10 in his possession and was the blackberry "specialist". I played with the phone for a few minutes. He walked me through the gestures and how to use it and stuff. I thought it had great graphics and was really snappy.

    Then when I asked him if it was worth switching from the Nexus he said dont do it. I was shocked and he said the phone isnt ready yet, dont switch.

    I was all set to walk out with the phone and yet I didnt. Looks like Ill wait a bit longer until they polish the OS up a bit and give it another look. Im still also a bit hesitant to jump in after all the threads with issues. I will stay on top of this forum though to see how everyone is getting along with it.
    JPSKILLZ and toujours_frais like this.
    03-25-13 11:25 AM
  2. howarmat's Avatar
    Nexus is a great device but you still should give the BB a try on your own and form your own conclusion. Without knowing what your needs are its hard to say what phone would be better for you but I still think you need to atleast give it a test run for a couple days
    Neely2005, agp101, Mic_JP and 29 others like this.
    03-25-13 11:29 AM
  3. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Why do you need the opinion of someone else to decide for you...

    Posted via CB10
    03-25-13 11:31 AM
  4. HyperM3's Avatar
    I usually get a new phone every 6 months(that I keep) and in between I buy a phone or two to play with then return.

    I really only use a couple apps a lot(FB, Twitter, gmail/exchange, weather, news, KIK). I dont play any games on my phone and I hardly stream any movies or music. I suppose Im more of an information user than a media user.

    When I saw that two of my biggest used apps werent on the app store(tweetcaster and KIK) I realized it would be hard for me to communicate the way Im used to on a daily basis with this phone.

    I probably could pick up the phone for a couple days and play with it but I honestly dont think it would give me enough time to get used to the OS and make a fair assessment. Most reviews Ive been reading it takes at least a couple weeks to fall into the rhythm of really understanding the phone.

    PS-thanks for not posting a negative response telling me to get lost lol.
    03-25-13 11:34 AM
  5. HyperM3's Avatar
    Why do you need the opinion of someone else to decide for you...

    Posted via CB10
    Its not that I need an opinion to help make a decision. Its getting the opinion from people I value their opinion from based on them knowing how I use my phone and what Im looking for in one.
    21stNow and BlazorBoy like this.
    03-25-13 11:35 AM
  6. Double_J75's Avatar
    "I was shocked and he said the phone isnt ready yet, dont switch."

    What part wasn't ready? What do you use the phone for? When I walked in to a store I usually have my mind made up based on my research. I would try the phone to ensure it was as good as I seen in videos and so on.

    By that point if a sales person told me not to get the phone I wouldn't listen unless they had some compelling reason I had over looked. I am not a sheep I make my own decisions.
    Neely2005, agp101, Mo Cat and 3 others like this.
    03-25-13 11:39 AM
  7. rockivy's Avatar
    Kik is available as a sideload here on CB, and I agree with the previous poster make up your own mind, you can always return it if it doesn't suit your needs but at least you tried, hard to judge a product without trying it out first

    Posted from my Zed 10*CA*
    Neely2005 likes this.
    03-25-13 11:40 AM
  8. adjdudley21's Avatar
    Id been so psyched and hyped about the z10 since the announcement. I had been a die-hard BB fan for several years in the past. I was looking forward to getting away from the Android experience Ive been using for the past couple years.

    I went into my local Best Buy yesterday to play with the phone. I knew a couple guys there and they are heavy phone users like myself, updating ROM's and whatnot.

    I spoke to the guy who had the Z10 in his possession and was the blackberry "specialist". I played with the phone for a few minutes. He walked me through the gestures and how to use it and stuff. I thought it had great graphics and was really snappy.

    Then when I asked him if it was worth switching from the Nexus he said dont do it. I was shocked and he said the phone isnt ready yet, dont switch.

    I was all set to walk out with the phone and yet I didnt. Looks like Ill wait a bit longer until they polish the OS up a bit and give it another look. Im still also a bit hesitant to jump in after all the threads with issues. I will stay on top of this forum though to see how everyone is getting along with it.
    Most of the issues on these forums are either trolls or user error issues... Sure battery life is a bit on the lacking side, but with the ability to switch batteries its a non issue... i can not speak to the nexus but i can say that the z10 is amazing... the only thing this phone can not compete with its competitors s on the apps side.. which is slowly but surely being taken care of.. anyways, its all about personal preference... hopefully we will get you on a z10, but until then, enjoy your nexus, we will still welcome you around here
    03-25-13 11:41 AM
  9. agp101's Avatar
    Most of the issues on these forums are either trolls or user error issues... Sure battery life is a bit on the lacking side, but with the ability to switch batteries its a non issue... i can not speak to the nexus but i can say that the z10 is amazing... the only thing this phone can not compete with its competitors s on the apps side.. which is slowly but surely being taken care of.. anyways, its all about personal preference... hopefully we will get you on a z10, but until then, enjoy your nexus, we will still welcome you around here
    I honestly don't find the battery bad at all. It's exactly what it should be. It is not a Bold 9700, afterall. On par with every other smartphone from other platforms.

    Posted via CB10
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    03-25-13 11:46 AM
  10. crawlgsx's Avatar
    I honestly don't find the battery bad at all. It's exactly what it should be. It is not a Bold 9700, afterall. On par with every other smartphone from other platforms.

    Posted via CB10
    x2. Way better battery life than my Nexus 4 (not even comparable).
    03-25-13 11:50 AM
  11. HyperM3's Avatar
    Kik is available as a sideload here on CB, and I agree with the previous poster make up your own mind, you can always return it if it doesn't suit your needs but at least you tried, hard to judge a product without trying it out first

    Posted from my Zed 10*CA*
    Thank you for letting me know, I didnt realize it was available as a sideload. I know you need the full SDK for some apps and not all are available or released by creator. That being said, what I really like about Tweetcaster is the ability to post to FB and Twitter at the same time. Is there an app out there that does the same thing for the Z10? If so, then both of my app concerns are waived and I will try the phone.
    03-25-13 11:52 AM
  12. HyperM3's Avatar
    x2. Way better battery life than my Nexus 4 (not even comparable).
    You say this, but I have excellent battery life with my phone. Running AOKP, I am at 50% battery after 12 hours. Hows it look for the Z10?
    03-25-13 11:53 AM
  13. psparks's Avatar
    You say this, but I have excellent battery life with my phone. Running AOKP, I am at 50% battery after 12 hours. Hows it look for the Z10?
    For me lately, it has been around 8 hour or so. However, I am heavy on the emails and talking to clients
    . Maybe less if I am viewing news posts or using the Internet

    Posted via BlackBerry Z10
    03-25-13 12:06 PM
  14. RECOOL's Avatar
    You made your decision by doing 10 minute demo and listening to sales rep instead of personally using.It will be too easy ,I wont do it.Thanks for ''trying''lmao BB10 enjoy your nexus.Mods might as well bury this thread.These type threads foolishly escalate.The OP already made his decision no one needs to convince him of anything.Individual has to make their choice he made his so no talking point.
    03-25-13 12:12 PM
  15. agp101's Avatar
    You say this, but I have excellent battery life with my phone. Running AOKP, I am at 50% battery after 12 hours. Hows it look for the Z10?
    By your logic of measuring battery life, I'd say I got 50% left after 30 hours yesterday! Of course, I have not mentioned how long my phone was on standby, how many games I played, how much data was downloaded, etc. Cmon man.. I thought Android users were geeks! (sarcasm).

    But clearly you could see how flawed this logic is, and not quantitative at all. It's crap logic that's what it is.

    Posted via CB10
    03-25-13 12:13 PM
  16. knighty2112's Avatar
    Top tip: always go on your own gut feeling. Never rely on anyone elses opinion. You seemed to have quite a good time with it before asking the sales rep that question. Most sales reps will push you into a certain direction either because they will get more commission out of a sale, or don't know much about a product so will stick with one they know.

    I work as a field support engineer for a worldwide company & I don't trust hardly any of our sales reps to actually listen to what the customer may want or require. All they mostly do is listen to what they themselves want (mostly more commission) & desire for them. The Z10 is an amazing phone I think, but only you will know if it is right for you. At the worst you could try it for two weeks & if you don't like it take it back. There is always a cooling off period for these things.
    03-25-13 12:14 PM
  17. psparks's Avatar
    Top tip: always go on your own gut feeling. Never rely on anyone elses opinion. You seemed to have quite a good time with it before asking the sales rep that question. Most sales reps will push you into a certain direction either because they will get more commission out of a sale, or don't know much about a product so will stick with one they know.

    I work as a field support engineer for a worldwide company & I don't trust hardly any of our sales reps to actually listen to what the customer may want or require. All they mostly do is listen to what they themselves want (mostly more commission) & desire for them. The Z10 is an amazing phone I think, but only you will know if it is right for you. At the worst you could try it for two weeks & if you don't like it take it back. There is always a cooling off period for these things.
    True. It is the nature of the beast

    Posted via BlackBerry Z10
    03-25-13 12:24 PM
  18. HyperM3's Avatar
    You made your decision by doing 10 minute demo and listening to sales rep instead of personally using.It will be too easy ,I wont do it.Thanks for ''trying''lmao BB10 enjoy your nexus.Mods might as well bury this thread.These type threads foolishly escalate.The OP already made his decision no one needs to convince him of anything.Individual has to make their choice he made his so no talking point.
    Actually, aside from you, others have made some valid points to which I addressed. They even showed me some things I didnt know. You provided me with a response as expected. Im not a lurker nor a troll, Ive been a member of this community for a long time.

    By your logic of measuring battery life, I'd say I got 50% left after 30 hours yesterday! Of course, I have not mentioned how long my phone was on standby, how many games I played, how much data was downloaded, etc. Cmon man.. I thought Android users were geeks! (sarcasm).

    But clearly you could see how flawed this logic is, and not quantitative at all. It's crap logic that's what it is.

    Posted via CB10
    Duly noted. I dont use my phone for calls hardly at all. I have everything set to immediately push(emails, FB, Twitter etc.). My screen time on by 12 hours is usually about an hour and half. I dont play games and my Bluetooth, GPS and WIFI are on the whole time as well.
    03-25-13 12:24 PM
  19. tfp's Avatar
    Thank you for letting me know, I didnt realize it was available as a sideload. I know you need the full SDK for some apps and not all are available or released by creator. That being said, what I really like about Tweetcaster is the ability to post to FB and Twitter at the same time. Is there an app out there that does the same thing for the Z10? If so, then both of my app concerns are waived and I will try the phone.
    Tweetcaster is also available as a sideload. Check in the BB10 / PlayBook sideloading forums. If not, it is be available at goodereader.com
    03-25-13 12:30 PM
  20. darkehawke's Avatar
    I think you should have listened to why he thought it wasn't ready before making up your mind.
    What part isn't ready?
    I'm using mine daily and haven't been found wanting yet. The device is ready in my opinion.
    Get it, try it. You have around two weeks cooling off period to make up your mind. I suggest trying it for at least a week. A few days doesn't show what the z10 is capable of

    Posted via CB10
    03-25-13 12:31 PM
  21. nhanken's Avatar
    You have to experience BBZ10 for yourself to really know how it's like. I would recommend you to try it out for at least a week or two to get used to the new OS and the intuitive keyboard and once you get the hang of typing and swiping on BB10 along with all the gestures, you will be surprised. And if you don't like it, return it if a store has the return policy in place.

    Don't listen to what other people tell you, you are the one making the decision so why not just give it a try if the sexzzZ10 is occupying your mind right now =)



    Posted via CB10
    03-25-13 12:32 PM
  22. tjseaman's Avatar
    I usually get a new phone every 6 months(that I keep) and in between I buy a phone or two to play with then return.

    I really only use a couple apps a lot(FB, Twitter, gmail/exchange, weather, news, KIK). I dont play any games on my phone and I hardly stream any movies or music. I suppose Im more of an information user than a media user.

    When I saw that two of my biggest used apps werent on the app store(tweetcaster and KIK) I realized it would be hard for me to communicate the way Im used to on a daily basis with this phone.

    I probably could pick up the phone for a couple days and play with it but I honestly dont think it would give me enough time to get used to the OS and make a fair assessment. Most reviews Ive been reading it takes at least a couple weeks to fall into the rhythm of really understanding the phone.

    PS-thanks for not posting a negative response telling me to get lost lol.
    Get lost....in the wonder world of Z10!!!!!


    Posted via CB10
    03-25-13 12:36 PM
  23. AngryEdmontonian's Avatar
    Thank you for letting me know, I didnt realize it was available as a sideload. I know you need the full SDK for some apps and not all are available or released by creator. That being said, what I really like about Tweetcaster is the ability to post to FB and Twitter at the same time. Is there an app out there that does the same thing for the Z10? If so, then both of my app concerns are waived and I will try the phone.
    Polarbear
    03-25-13 12:36 PM
  24. Randy Woolvett's Avatar
    Hi When I was buying my Z10 on the first day. THe girl I bought it from mentioned that the Samsungs are nice but you drop it and the screen is gone...not useable.
    I love mine and have dropped it more times then I want to admit
    Its a great product !
    Randy
    03-25-13 12:36 PM
  25. Thunderbuck's Avatar
    I usually get a new phone every 6 months(that I keep) and in between I buy a phone or two to play with then return.

    I really only use a couple apps a lot(FB, Twitter, gmail/exchange, weather, news, KIK). I dont play any games on my phone and I hardly stream any movies or music. I suppose Im more of an information user than a media user.

    When I saw that two of my biggest used apps werent on the app store(tweetcaster and KIK) I realized it would be hard for me to communicate the way Im used to on a daily basis with this phone.

    I probably could pick up the phone for a couple days and play with it but I honestly dont think it would give me enough time to get used to the OS and make a fair assessment. Most reviews Ive been reading it takes at least a couple weeks to fall into the rhythm of really understanding the phone.

    PS-thanks for not posting a negative response telling me to get lost lol.
    As much as I love the Z10, the app gap ensures it won't be the right phone for everyone just yet. I've said it on a couple of other threads, but it bears repeating: there's a huge difference between trolling and listing legitimate issues, and there are clearly some legit issues that would come between you and a Z10 right now.

    Fortunately, I think there are quite a few people who don't have the specific needs that you do, and who WOULD be happy with the Z10. And I think there's enough of these customers out there that the developers will take notice and start making their apps available over the next several months.
    03-25-13 12:42 PM
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