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  1. E-FlowElLobo's Avatar
    The "just buy a battery charger bundle" response is akin to buying a new car, and then finding out shortly afterwards that it burns gasoline at twice the rate that you expected, just driving the kids a few blocks to school and to the grocery store a couple times a week. But when you go back to the dealership to voice your concerns about the cars poor fuel economy, the shady car salesmen who sold you the car tells you not to return the gas guzzler, but instead suggests your poor fuel economy problem can be fixed by purchasing a gas can full of gasoline, and storing in the trunk for when you run out of gas.
    Ummm no. Gas is a recurring purchase. You buy a spare battery once and that's it. The fingerprint left on your light bill by charging one extra battery is very miniscule.

    Via CB 10 on my T-Mobile Z10
    05-30-13 03:40 AM
  2. E-FlowElLobo's Avatar
    We are all forgetting that BB10 was just launched. Have a little respect for the hard work that went into that phone. But yes I understand where you are coming from, battery life is where they should have definitely tried harder. A greater capacity battery would have been amazing. Did a bigger battery really affect their budget or functionality of the phone that much?... I've installed every leak since 10.1.0.1762 for T-Mobile -3 in search of the most efficient and fluid 10.1 OS currently I'm using the newest one .2354 and it's the most fluid one for MY DEVICE and I'll soon know how the battery life is comparable to the other leaks and stock...
    now iPhone 5 and android on the other hand, well what's the excuse for them? And do those users complain about battery life as often as we do?
    My point is no phone is perfect but blackberry is aware of battery complaints as seen by the first ota update after launch. Give them credit for putting a modern touchscreen phone in your hand that you are proud to use. And if not well I hope you at least respect the time, hard work, and dedication that went into it. Again blackberry just got back into the game. Better late than never!

    Posted via CB10
    Finally! Someone that understands.

    Via CB 10 on my T-Mobile Z10
    05-30-13 03:42 AM
  3. E-FlowElLobo's Avatar
    Yes, and have to remember to put one extra thing in my pockets, and then remember to charge it.
    We'll see how it goes. I find the q10 to be inferior in many ways to the Z10 so I just may switch back someday.


    Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    Has humanity gotten so lazy that the sheer thought of one extra task seems too overwhelming.

    Via CB 10 on my T-Mobile Z10
    05-30-13 03:45 AM
  4. texazzpete's Avatar
    Has humanity gotten so lazy that the sheer thought of one extra task seems too overwhelming.

    Via CB 10 on my T-Mobile Z10
    Have your arguments grown so weak that you have to resort to making assumptions on my daily routine? As someone who works long hours in a very challenging work environment, I'd be happy if you keep comments like 'lazy' to yourself if you have nothing more reasonable or intelligent to say.

    I'm kept busy juggling work and family. Carrying an extra battery bundle, there will be days when I will forget to carry the bundle or forget to charge it. With two phones, car keys, bank token and a wallet in my pockets, I would also much prefer not to have to resort to carrying an external accessory as a 'solution'.
    05-30-13 02:18 PM
  5. texazzpete's Avatar
    We are all forgetting that BB10 was just launched. Have a little respect for the hard work that went into that phone. But yes I understand where you are coming from, battery life is where they should have definitely tried harder. A greater capacity battery would have been amazing. Did a bigger battery really affect their budget or functionality of the phone that much?... I've installed every leak since 10.1.0.1762 for T-Mobile -3 in search of the most efficient and fluid 10.1 OS currently I'm using the newest one .2354 and it's the most fluid one for MY DEVICE and I'll soon know how the battery life is comparable to the other leaks and stock...
    now iPhone 5 and android on the other hand, well what's the excuse for them? And do those users complain about battery life as often as we do?
    My point is no phone is perfect but blackberry is aware of battery complaints as seen by the first ota update after launch. Give them credit for putting a modern touchscreen phone in your hand that you are proud to use. And if not well I hope you at least respect the time, hard work, and dedication that went into it. Again blackberry just got back into the game. Better late than never!

    Posted via CB10
    I think people would be happier if Blackberry similarly had a little respect for the hard earned money we put towards buying their devices and put more effort in battery life. There are those who say 10.1 fixed their battery issues with the Z10 but there are loads of folks that haven't seen that improvement. Just the same way as how loads of people claimed OS 7.1 provided stellar battery life on the 9900 while many others like myself still had awful battery life.

    Blackberry needs to double down on efforts on improving power management with QNX. The PlayBook reviews all highlighted the fact that the battery life was on the average inferior than many of its competitors

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    BB10 is built on QNX...Blackberry has had time to work on this. A greater capacity battery would have been seriously appreciated...after the debacle that was the 9900 with its notoriously poor battery life, you'd have thought that they'd pay more attention to detail to battery life.

    Like I said, I've 'solved' this problem by getting a Q10. Today, for the first time in 2 years I've had a BB battery that lasted basically the entire day (moderate use, though), but that could be just because of the small, lower res screen and the bigger battery. What happens if the 'Aristo' ships with Blackberry's new found love of anaemic batteries and a 1080p screen?

    So, yes, lots of good work done by Blackberry, but lots of good work still to be done.
    05-30-13 02:32 PM
  6. sentano's Avatar
    ... wiFi can always be enabled...

    At least in my office that's not true. If I enable WiFi there, the battery drains within 6hours when I don't use the Z10. When I use it even faster. When I disable wifi I get about 17 hours with medium usage and four hours of travelling (wich is a drainer).


    Posted via CB10
    Something has to be wrong with your work Wi-Fi...
    E-mail sync settings can also screw up battery life...


    Posted via CB10
    05-30-13 07:24 PM
  7. bubbbab's Avatar
    battery charger bundle... best bet!
    You mean I didn't have to buy a second Z10 to charge my spare battery? Darn salesmen.

    Steve, Posted via CB10
    05-30-13 07:54 PM
  8. E-FlowElLobo's Avatar
    Have your arguments grown so weak that you have to resort to making assumptions on my daily routine? As someone who works long hours in a very challenging work environment, I'd be happy if you keep comments like 'lazy' to yourself if you have nothing more reasonable or intelligent to say.

    I'm kept busy juggling work and family. Carrying an extra battery bundle, there will be days when I will forget to carry the bundle or forget to charge it. With two phones, car keys, bank token and a wallet in my pockets, I would also much prefer not to have to resort to carrying an external accessory as a 'solution'.
    I never said anything about your daily routine. You took my words out of context. It's one extra battery. The charging kit would stay at home. This argument isn't going anywhere. I agree to disagree.

    Via CB 10 on my T-Mobile Z10
    05-30-13 08:46 PM
  9. BB_Junky's Avatar
    But if the battery life was great then people would just find something else to complain about. It seems like they just like hearing their own voice. Agreed one should not have to carry an extra item with them but if you want ANY platform to last all day with ALL options turned on, screen at full brightness you will need to charge it. The stories "oh my iPhone lasts all day or my android last 24 hrs"..... BS, had them all and had to charge them all during the day...whats the point of having these great devices if you have everything turned off.


    Sent from my super secret shoe device using Tapatalk HD
    05-30-13 09:33 PM
  10. sentano's Avatar
    Way to go!!!
    You're quite right here...
    It's always a compromise between performance and run time on a single charge.

    Posted via CB10
    05-30-13 10:01 PM
  11. fragment137's Avatar
    Another battery post? REALLY?

    Batteries suck in mobile devices in general... this isn't just something BlackBerry is struggling with. From what I hear the Q10 has masterful battery life. Even the Z10 has better battery life when compared to an S3 (and probably S4).

    At least we have the option of buying a spare battery bundle. I think it's a brilliant idea.

    I agree that consumers shouldn't HAVE to buy extra batteries, but it's the nature of the market... NO mobile device with a >=4" screen will have stellar battery life without modification. I just don't get why people get baffled like they didn't expect that?
    E-FlowElLobo likes this.
    05-30-13 10:19 PM
  12. bubbbab's Avatar
    I found the battery in the 97xx phones that we had some time ago absolutely legendary. The Z I don't find too bad BUT, I'm a bit of a charge freak. We have chargers in the office, the living room, the cars and I charge as often as I can. Just the way I've always done it. The wife and kids not so much. Theirs are basically going all day and theyre ready for charge at bedtime.

    Steve, Posted via CB10
    05-31-13 12:46 AM
  13. texazzpete's Avatar
    Another battery post? REALLY?

    Batteries suck in mobile devices in general... this isn't just something BlackBerry is struggling with. From what I hear the Q10 has masterful battery life. Even the Z10 has better battery life when compared to an S3 (and probably S4).

    At least we have the option of buying a spare battery bundle. I think it's a brilliant idea.

    I agree that consumers shouldn't HAVE to buy extra batteries, but it's the nature of the market... NO mobile device with a >=4" screen will have stellar battery life without modification. I just don't get why people get baffled like they didn't expect that?
    Yes, another battery life. Because, quite frankly, battery life tends to rank in the top 3 features loads of people look for when buying a phone.

    In my own experience, I've had far worse battery life with my Z10 than during my S3 or iPhone days. Your mileage may vary.

    Finally, the Q10 has good battery life due to a combination of a small screen, relatively low resolution (by today's standards) and a reasonably big battery. Most people prefer touchscreens and bigger, more power hungry screen will eventually show up in Blackberry devices. Better a furore is made now and BB gets their ship in order than wait until later when we'll continue getting touchscreen phones with battery life all over the place.

    PS: My galaxy S4, higher clocked than the Z10, faster processor, 1080p screen practically goes through a day of use, better performance than I ever saw with my old Z10. Galaxy Note II is a battery champion. Both have screens well over 4 inches.
    05-31-13 04:23 AM
  14. PippinTook's Avatar
    I just went out with my z10vfor the first time. Un plugged at 6 and it was at 50 percent at 3. LTE was on the whole time even better than my curve would have lasted

    Posted via CB10
    06-01-13 05:32 PM
  15. Jerryg50's Avatar
    We have a number of Z10 phones. We found the battery life is not any worse than most of the smart phones out there. You have to consider this phone has a very powerful processing and is able to do many job tasks at the same time. It is important the phone is properly set up to be efficient.

    I can easily get a full day out of my phone when I use it normally. When I am doing heavy usage on the net, many emails, and many phone calls, it is normal the battery will run down faster.

    Because I have very busy days, I carry around a travel charger. I also have a charger in each car. I also carry a spare batter with its own charger.
    06-01-13 05:36 PM
  16. NursingNinja's Avatar
    Just get a pocket charger. Lots of good reasons to have one anyways. That way you can charge other people's phones as well.

    Posted via CB10
    06-01-13 05:41 PM
  17. anon5129477's Avatar
    Imagine if you could Velcro and webos touchstone anywhere and everywhere for cheap and all you had to do for more juice is to lay your phone down on it. INDUCTIVE CHARGING . What a concept.
    06-01-13 05:46 PM
  18. K Zakis's Avatar
    I've had similar problems with my own battery since getting my phone only 6 days ago... but finally it appears to be to be improving...here's what I did...worth a try...
    - disable all notifications as well as disable all notifications in individual programs
    - turn screen brightness to the lowest setting
    -disable BlackBerry Hub
    -disable diagnostics
    -disable gesture at start up
    - set phone to 3g or 2g
    -let the phone battery run out til the phone shuts down then connect to BlackBerry charger

    after 4hrs I'm down to 71%....before this I was lucky to get 5-6hrs...


    Posted via CB10
    06-02-13 06:05 AM
  19. K Zakis's Avatar
    let me also add

    -screen lock out set to 20 secs
    -disable all notifications set to phone only but even disable phone notifications
    - disable nfc & blue tooth as well

    Posted via CB10
    06-02-13 06:11 AM
  20. kiliimanjaro's Avatar
    I've had similar problems with my own battery since getting my phone only 6 days ago... but finally it appears to be to be improving...here's what I did...worth a try...
    - disable all notifications as well as disable all notifications in individual programs
    - turn screen brightness to the lowest setting
    -disable BlackBerry Hub
    -disable diagnostics
    -disable gesture at start up
    - set phone to 3g or 2g
    -let the phone battery run out til the phone shuts down then connect to BlackBerry charger

    after 4hrs I'm down to 71%....before this I was lucky to get 5-6hrs...


    Posted via CB10
    We shouldn't have to disable every feature of the phone just to have a days battery life.

    Posted via CB10
    06-02-13 06:13 AM
  21. BB_Junky's Avatar
    Two days ago I signed out of FB, Twitter, LinkedIn, turned off location services, turned my email to "manual" and just with those not updating steady my battery last almost 30 hrs before having to plug it in. Last night I turned them all back on...bang down to 43% in 12 hrs, that's with minimal use maybe 10 calls, and some minor texting.


    Sent from my super secret shoe device using Tapatalk HD
    06-02-13 06:15 AM
  22. BB_Junky's Avatar
    We shouldn't have to disable every feature of the phone just to have a days battery life.

    Posted via CB10
    Agreed....sad but if you want good battery life it's a must.


    Sent from my super secret shoe device using Tapatalk HD
    06-02-13 06:17 AM
  23. bp3dots's Avatar
    I've had similar problems with my own battery since getting my phone only 6 days ago... but finally it appears to be to be improving...here's what I did...worth a try...
    - disable all notifications as well as disable all notifications in individual programs
    - turn screen brightness to the lowest setting
    -disable BlackBerry Hub
    -disable diagnostics
    -disable gesture at start up
    - set phone to 3g or 2g
    -let the phone battery run out til the phone shuts down then connect to BlackBerry charger
    after 4hrs I'm down to 71%....before this I was lucky to get 5-6hrs...Posted via CB10
    let me also add
    -screen lock out set to 20 secs
    -disable all notifications set to phone only but even disable phone notifications
    - disable nfc & blue tooth as well
    Posted via CB10
    Honest question, are you being funny/sarcastic? That's terrible. Why even have the phone if you can't use any of the features? How heavy is your usage?
    06-02-13 06:18 AM
  24. Fabio Aliprandi's Avatar
    My battery works in a modest use.
    My battery lives 7/8 hours. Is it normal attitude?

    From CB10 App | Fabio Aliprandi on BlackBerry Z10.
    06-02-13 07:10 AM
  25. mnc76's Avatar
    Just give it a few days to condition the battery too. It'll be much better..

    Posted via CB10
    There is no such thing as battery conditioning for lithium ion batteries. It's a myth.

    The only "Conditioning" that exists is to fully charge your battery before first use.

    Beyond on that, there is no such thing as condition. Never was.

    Posted via CB10
    06-02-13 07:15 AM
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