01-21-11 07:21 AM
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  1. mrlee7's Avatar
    I have been waiting for this day for w long time. I happy with this leak, and for the most part this is the touchscreen blackberry I desire..

    Earlier we heard from BBleaks that production was imminent, and now it's September when we can get our hands on it???

    Can some of the great minds here shed some light on why it would take this long?? Or if this is even true?
    01-14-11 02:10 PM
  2. dutchtender's Avatar
    because rimm is slow. or hadn't you noticed this before? when that comes out it will look average and ordinary.
    01-14-11 03:08 PM
  3. Xopher's Avatar
    Plus, once they get the device ready, carriers have to test and approve it.
    01-14-11 03:20 PM
  4. Chrisy's Avatar
    I was looking forward to this device for so long. September is too far past my upgrade to wait. By then, this BlackBerry will be outdated. Still a nice upgrade from the Tour. But I've decided to switch from BlackBerry in March.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-14-11 03:23 PM
  5. chuckh0308's Avatar
    So much upset over rumors from BGR...lol! It could be September 2015, never, or tomorrow for all we REALLY know!
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    01-14-11 04:42 PM
  6. BerryBlack15's Avatar
    I have been waiting for this day for w long time. I happy with this leak, and for the most part this is the touchscreen blackberry I desire..

    Earlier we heard from BBleaks that production was imminent, and now it's September when we can get our hands on it???

    Can some of the great minds here shed some light on why it would take this long?? Or if this is even true?
    I am with you on that. The phone and the specs look awsome...but September? Really? By then the iphone 5 will be out along with comparable Android phones. I really hope BGR has it wrong and it will be here by the beginning of Q2 at the latest.
    01-14-11 07:22 PM
  7. BergerKing's Avatar
    Can the people that are gonna leave BlackBerry just leave without production credits or repeated posts of the same thing. Shucks, anyone here and on the forums has probably seen it already, and beginning to see them grow troll horns and scales. go get assimilated already!

    For the BlackBerry crowd, the preliminary stats look like a large step up. Some will say it's not enough, others will whine about the battery, or the screen is a hair tweaked, or something. Criminy, it's better than a swift kick in the hoo-ha!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-14-11 07:36 PM
  8. DaPhoneking's Avatar
    So much upset over rumors from BGR...lol! It could be September 2015, never, or tomorrow for all we REALLY know!

    Maybe for the CDMA version... But since the leaked one is GSM-only, cmon T-Mobile!!!
    01-14-11 08:15 PM
  9. Joneser2006's Avatar
    I have been waiting for this day for w long time. I happy with this leak, and for the most part this is the touchscreen blackberry I desire..

    Earlier we heard from BBleaks that production was imminent, and now it's September when we can get our hands on it???

    Can some of the great minds here shed some light on why it would take this long?? Or if this is even true?
    For the same reason that QNX will be no where near our phones until mid 2012. RIM tries to inspire hope and confidence with an announcement about 18 months ahead of when it can deliver.
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    01-14-11 10:07 PM
  10. SCrid2000's Avatar
    September is when kids get new phones for school. Lots of phones sell in september, it's a good time to releases stuff.
    01-14-11 10:29 PM
  11. DaPhoneking's Avatar
    September is when kids get new phones for school. Lots of phones sell in september, it's a good time to releases stuff.
    There's a rumor over in BerryReview that the monaco is currently in production. Maybe a earlier release....?
    01-14-11 10:52 PM
  12. Joneser2006's Avatar
    There's that word again...maybe...
    01-15-11 07:10 PM
  13. SaMaster14's Avatar
    September is too late!!

    I know that leaks can't always be taken at face value, and I really hope that the release date info is something that turns out to be wrong.

    Maybe a Sept. release for the Dakota/Apollo/Torch2 will be good... but I really hope this Monaco (which seems to be further along in production) will be released between March and May.
    01-15-11 07:16 PM
  14. Chrisy's Avatar
    It seems like rumors of this device have gone back a year! Hopefully it's released at least by April.
    01-15-11 07:20 PM
  15. SaMaster14's Avatar
    It seems like rumors of this device have gone back a year! Hopefully it's released at least by April.
    True, we saw that pic A LONG time ago (the guy with the thumb ring) which looks EXACTLY like the computer image of the Monaco.

    And as I said, it seems further along in production. And theoretically a September release would seem logical for the Dakota/Apollo/Torch2 when looking at when the current Bold/Curve3G/Torch1 devices were released.

    The S2 was released over a year ago... and it would be really really disadvantageous if RIM were not to release a new touch-only device on VZW for 2 full years since the S2
    01-15-11 07:27 PM
  16. lnichols's Avatar
    [SARCASM]Because Mike Lizard hates us established 3G markets[/SARCASM]
    01-15-11 07:33 PM
  17. BoldtotheMax's Avatar
    Can the people that are gonna leave BlackBerry just leave without production credits or repeated posts of the same thing. Shucks, anyone here and on the forums has probably seen it already, and beginning to see them grow troll horns and scales. go get assimilated already!

    For the BlackBerry crowd, the preliminary stats look like a large step up. Some will say it's not enough, others will whine about the battery, or the screen is a hair tweaked, or something. Criminy, it's better than a swift kick in the hoo-ha!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Where is the thanks button on da mobile site? Lol!

    So true about move on! When I left to Android I didn't sit and talk ish about BB or make a post, I am leaving...I just left...

    Seems the cool thing to do now is talk ish about your Berry to Berry fans (most of us still are, I think.) And have to make it known I am leaving and why...who cares, just go...

    Oh and those same people talked plenty of times about how good their berry did this and that...all to crap on it down the road.

    Pot/kettle thang I suppose. Quite a bit of it on these forums unfortunately...heck even in this thread.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
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    01-16-11 08:42 AM
  18. starmburst1's Avatar
    I just want rid of my S1 for this thing....I like the trackball due how hard it is sometimes to click a link surrounded by other links...and the wifis will be nice addition as well....I do wish there was 4G as well, why you ask, its available and better then 3G, and its in my market...

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-16-11 11:23 AM
  19. crackcookie's Avatar
    Why is it taking so long?

    It takes a while to finalize things and have them carrier approved.

    Could they put better specs on it and even a front facing camera? Yes, but they aren't trying to compete for bleeding thin profit margins. They want to make good phones, that work, and make a profit.

    People get so mad at RIM, its like my laptop, my tv, neither of them are top of the line specs from the year they were released. I will be ok.

    September is also when a lot of people start back up school. So there are usually great promotions. I think this is also around the time cars are released. They will release a 2012 version of a car in the last 4 months of the year before it.

    4G will be released, but what people dont know is. 4G is big, to put in a phone. Remember when BB would have a wifi only version or GPS only version?

    4G isn't nation wide, yet. Im guessing it will be in most big cities around june next year. But for now, its not
    01-16-11 08:24 PM
  20. The_Engine's Avatar
    Crackcookie - look at VZW's LTE launch. It is in most major cities. And they are going from like 40 markets now to over 120 by the end of 2011. 4g on vzw is nationwide now, and will be pretty prevelant by year end. I love these argurments because if you all think there is no need for 4g now then there is really no need for 3g on att. The coverage areas are fairly close. I don't think all monaco's should be LTE but is they have a version on vzw it pretty much has to be, especially if it is in Sept.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-17-11 06:11 AM
  21. kb5zht's Avatar
    Like another poster said, RIM is slow by today's standards. They haven't changed with the times and, if it continues on the outdated business model, will suffer accordingly. Motorola is at the opposite end od the spectrum; a new device every 24 hours is a bit much.

    the S2 was released over a year ago... and it would be really really disadvantageous if RIM were not to release a new touch-only device on VZW for 2 full years since the S2.
    I agree that this is a mistake on rim's part... Remember there was going to be a "storm 2.5", evidently with 512mb app mem to accomidate OS6, and they scuttled the project. Like Arnold Schwarzennegar says, "biiiiiiiig mistake." Even if the device was just a refresh, this decision was viewed as RIM dropping the ball and turning its back on its touchscreen customers (don't tell me about the torch; its the same old junk and its AT&T exclusive in the US, not an option).

    Imho RIM should be in high gear focusing on high end touchscreen phones because that is the market they are failing at. "Can't do that and make a playbook at the same time" you say?

    Motorola isn't having a problem walking and chewing gum at the same time...

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-17-11 06:13 AM
  22. 1magine's Avatar
    "Motorola isn't having a problem walking and chewing gum at the same time..."

    So true. And while Motoblur is not half the UI that HTC Sense is, it still beats the bottom off BBOS.
    01-20-11 12:39 PM
  23. Rickroller's Avatar
    Can the people that are gonna leave BlackBerry just leave without production credits or repeated posts of the same thing. Shucks, anyone here and on the forums has probably seen it already, and beginning to see them grow troll horns and scales. go get assimilated already!

    For the BlackBerry crowd, the preliminary stats look like a large step up. Some will say it's not enough, others will whine about the battery, or the screen is a hair tweaked, or something. Criminy, it's better than a swift kick in the hoo-ha!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Who in this thread was crying? I guess people aren't supposed to be disappointed with delayed release times now? Heck..why complain about specs..just take whatever's given and be thankful. Like a homeless person eating out of a dumpster..just take whatever you can get. The real problem here is anyone raising legitimate concerns or questions about RIM now has to prepare to get lambasted and told to like it or GTFO.
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    01-20-11 01:43 PM
  24. kb5zht's Avatar
    "Motorola isn't having a problem walking and chewing gum at the same time..."

    So true. And while Motoblur is not half the UI that HTC Sense is, it still beats the bottom off BBOS.
    Well I am a blackberry fan but not a fanboi per se. I am sick and tired of the apologists making excuses for them and not, in effect, helping to hold their feet to the fire.

    When "they" keep saying RIM can't focus on a new phone and a tablet at the same time, another company is actually doing it... when "they" say certain phone can't be made, another company is actually doing it... When "they" say the battery life is too short on the phones being made such that nobody will buy them, consumers are buying them like hotcakes!!!

    The denial is almost enough to make you vomit. Come on guys, help make RIM get off its laurels, quit living in the past and get back to work.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-20-11 02:19 PM
  25. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Well I am a blackberry fan but not a fanboi per se. I am sick and tired of the apologists making excuses for them and not, in effect, helping to hold their feet to the fire.
    I daresay I am a fanboy, and even by UK Android standards, I am disappointed in this. Although yes, apparently that makes me a troll.

    When "they" keep saying RIM can't focus on a new phone and a tablet at the same time, another company is actually doing it... when "they" say certain phone can't be made, another company is actually doing it... When "they" say the battery life is too short on the phones being made such that nobody will buy them, consumers are buying them like hotcakes!!!
    Point 1: Yep, that would be Motorola, Samsung, and Apple, and even HTC now, and their devices AND tablet look pretty sweet. I'm locked into BB though.
    Point 2: Again, correct. HTC, Motorola, both got dual-cores. Apparently even Apple is rumoured to be bringing out a dual-core iP5.
    Point 3: Non-issue. I see so many non-BB devices being used more heavily than my own non-faulty device and OEM battery, with them also using the OEM battery, and then getting a truckload more battery life. And my BlackBerry 8520 has almost no features on it, so what gives?

    The denial is almost enough to make you vomit. Come on guys, help make RIM get off its laurels, quit living in the past and get back to work.
    It's either deny it or be branded a troll these days here at CrackBerry. Has happened to me before. It's a shame really. And then they come out and say Open Forum, deal with it or GTFO. Thankfully, I'm used to bullies so their petty comments don't wind me up.
    01-20-11 05:29 PM
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