1. JLWare's Avatar
    With better specs, any idea why the Torch is cheaper than the Bold 9700 (AT&T)?

    I've been an iPhone user since the beginning, but I must choose between the 9700 and 9800 for work. Any suggestions?
    Last edited by JLWare; 01-08-11 at 10:19 PM.
    01-08-11 10:11 PM
  2. iMiiTH's Avatar
    The Bold was released after the torch, the price will go down eventually.
    01-08-11 10:38 PM
  3. jcp007's Avatar
    The Bold 9700 was released before the Torch. The 9780 was released after the Torch. Which one you choose depends upon your needs.

    1) Torch has a larger screen.
    2) Torch has landscape and portrait.
    3) Torch has virtual and physical keboard.
    4) Torch has touchscreen with gestures that make keyboard shortcuts less needed.
    5) Torch still has keyboard shortcuts.
    6) Torch has better multi-tasking, messaging and web-browsing with touchscreen, trackpad and keyboard.
    7) Torch has more onboard storage at 4 GB. With my 32 GB card, that's 36 GB total.

    Both are great devices. Good luck with your choice.

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    01-08-11 10:52 PM
  4. JLWare's Avatar
    The Bold was released after the torch, the price will go down eventually.
    I was under the impression the 9700 was released in Nov 2009 and the 9800 was released in Aug 2010...

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    01-08-11 10:54 PM
  5. luqman24's Avatar
    With better specs, any idea why the Torch is cheaper than the Bold 9700 (AT&T)?

    I've been an iPhone user since the beginning, but I must choose between the 9700 and 9800 for work. Any suggestions?
    i'm pretty sure you're refering to the 9780, the one which recently came out after the Torch?

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    01-08-11 11:14 PM
  6. JLWare's Avatar
    i'm pretty sure you're refering to the 9780, the one which recently came out after the Torch?

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    No, the 9780 isn't even listed at AT&T. The 9700 is $199.99 and the 9800 is $99.99. I've always been told you don't always get what you pay for, but you never get what you don't pay for. Is that the case with the Torch?

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    01-08-11 11:27 PM
  7. calicocat2010's Avatar
    The 9700 came before the Torch. The Torch came out in August. I remember because I was trying to choose between getting the 9700 Or the Torch. I bought my Torch August 22nd.
    01-09-11 12:40 AM
  8. aznlgcy's Avatar
    The reason that the Torch is cheaper than the 9700 is that the 9800 isn't selling as well as they hoped and possibly trying to boost sales for the device
    01-09-11 12:42 AM
  9. luqman24's Avatar
    No, the 9780 isn't even listed at AT&T. The 9700 is $199.99 and the 9800 is $99.99. I've always been told you don't always get what you pay for, but you never get what you don't pay for. Is that the case with the Torch?

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    Haha its the opposite at Rogers. The Torch is $229.99, the 9780 is $149.99, the 9700 is discontinued. But I got my Torch on boxing week for $149.99 at Bestbuy but still $229.99 at Rogers. Sounds like a bad business plan at Rogers to me.

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    01-09-11 12:44 AM
  10. leilani_J's Avatar
    No, the 9780 isn't even listed at AT&T. The 9700 is $199.99 and the 9800 is $99.99. I've always been told you don't always get what you pay for, but you never get what you don't pay for. Is that the case with the Torch?

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    Not necessarily. There is nothing wrong with the Torch. AT&T periodically will lower the price on a new device. When I originally bought the 9700, a year ago, it was $99.99, and was a new device being promoted for the holiday season into 2010. I presume the same is happening for the Torch's promotion period. Eventuallly, it may return to its original price of $199.99, especially if a new promotion comes along to repplace it, which is more than likely.

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    01-09-11 01:48 AM
  11. pilsbury's Avatar
    If you're considering the 9700 using a full upgrade, you may want to check out Wal Mart. My wife got her 9700 with UG for $49.99.
    01-09-11 07:46 AM
  12. jcp007's Avatar
    My personal preference would be to move forward in device progression. If I were doing a full upgrade and wanted to stay with AT&T, I would wait for the 9780 if it ever drops or get the Torch. If you want the 9780, then TMO has it now.

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    01-09-11 10:17 AM
  13. jasonvw's Avatar
    With better specs, any idea why the Torch is cheaper than the Bold 9700 (AT&T)?

    I've been an iPhone user since the beginning, but I must choose between the 9700 and 9800 for work. Any suggestions?
    Is work paying for the phone? Or will you be giving up your iphone to get a BB?
    If you will be keeping the iphone, then Id go with the 9700 for a strict work device and the iphone for personal. if youre getting rid of the iphone and will just use 1 device then Id go with the 9800.
    01-09-11 10:27 AM
  14. mandrew120's Avatar
    Hmm.yeah I think its prob just cuz the torch isn't selling well

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    01-09-11 11:11 AM
  15. JLWare's Avatar
    Is work paying for the phone? Or will you be giving up your iphone to get a BB?
    If you will be keeping the iphone, then Id go with the 9700 for a strict work device and the iphone for personal. if youre getting rid of the iphone and will just use 1 device then Id go with the 9800.
    Yes, my employer is providing the phone - a choice between the 9700 and 9800. I will be keeping the iPhone for personal use.

    The 9800 is more appealing because it's almost a year newer than the 9700, it has better hardware, and I'm used to a touch screen. I just didn't understand why the Torch would be cheaper - to me, it would be like seeing an iPhone 4 priced lower than a 3GS.

    I think if I could choose between the 9800 and 9780, I'd probably go with the 9780. But from a phone technology standpoint, I hate to buy something that's over a year old. I think I'll give the Torch a try, and if I don't like it, I'll look to something else in the future.

    Thanks for all the advice. It is very much appreciated.
    01-09-11 11:46 AM
  16. Sirhill's Avatar
    The torchs price was a holiday price set by the carrier (AT&T).It is set to go back to the $199 price point in a couple weeks. The torch has sold better than most will know so if the price scares you than get the higher priced device. At the end of the day you won't lose on either device. I would first make sure that your company will support the OS 6 first. I have had a few customers that had to return their torches because of this.

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    01-09-11 11:49 AM
  17. luqman24's Avatar
    Is work paying for the phone? Or will you be giving up your iphone to get a BB?
    If you will be keeping the iphone, then Id go with the 9700 for a strict work device and the iphone for personal. if youre getting rid of the iphone and will just use 1 device then Id go with the 9800.
    i'm guessing its because since AT&T teamed up with RIM for Torch, their goal is to make record sales with this model. And making it cheaper helps with the sales.

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    01-09-11 12:36 PM
  18. leafs2k9's Avatar
    i got my torch for 99.99 @ christmas
    01-09-11 12:41 PM
  19. pilsbury's Avatar
    i got my torch for 99.99 @ christmas
    +1

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    01-09-11 01:20 PM
  20. wirelessgal's Avatar
    The Torch and the Bold 9780 seems to be selling pretty well with Rogers. My guess with AT&T is they're trying to push the sales of the Torch to compete with the iPhone or before they pick up the 9780. A lot of 9700 users are waiting to upgrade to the 9780. So I think AT&T deliberately delayed the release of the 9780 to push the sale of the Torch.
    01-09-11 01:36 PM
  21. vailjo91's Avatar
    The reason the Torch is selling for less is because they did it as a special for Christmas and New Years it is set to go back up in price soon.
    01-09-11 02:38 PM
  22. cliro's Avatar
    at bell the no term prices of the devices are,

    torch 9800 $599
    bold 9700 $599
    bold 9780 $499
    01-09-11 02:44 PM
  23. TheScionicMan's Avatar
    I think they are a lot of variables at play in the phone pricing. Inventory costs are one thing, but most of their money comes from service so enticing people to buy a cheaper phone will pay off down the line. Also, I think they have many business customers that approve and then stay on a certain device for a while. So if you've got several accounts that will require 9700's, there's not as much need to discount those because you've got a captive audience. There was a point where the 8830 was more expensive than the 9630...

    The most expensive phone on VZW is the Storm 2. Does that mean it sells so well they don't have to discount it?
    01-09-11 03:10 PM
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