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  1. madlaw1071's Avatar
    09-08-10 02:59 PM
  2. 67Tucker's Avatar
    Copied for easier read. Thanks OP.

    AT&T surprised at slow Torch sales while Android, iPhone win
    updated 01:10 pm EDT, Wed September 8, 2010ATT hints BBerry Torch sales not up to targets

    AT&T's President of Wireless Operations in the US West, Fred Devereux, hinted today that sales of the BlackBerry Torch were disappointing. He told those at Seattle's Mobile Future Forward conference that he was "surprised there hasn't been a faster adoption" of the phone, which he thought was the best-ever BlackBerry to date. He didn't provide numbers, but the statement was unusual and backed unofficial analyst views that sales had cooled quickly after launch.

    Follow-up remarks suggested that Apple and Google may have been the primary factors. There was "tremendous momentum" for Android, Devereux said. The company only has a handful of Android devices headlined by the Samsung Captivate, but the iPhone has been a perpetual strong seller at AT&T and this year is still seeing shortages, even after nearly three months of availability.

    Various factors have been speculated behind any possible sluggishness in Torch sales. As the BlackBerry is still led by corporate sales, many customers may simply be tied to work accounts that won't or can't upgrade automatically. Electronista and others have also pointed out technical issues that may have disappointed buyers and led them to switch, such as a display resolution and processor unchanged from 2008 despite the more demanding BlackBerry 6 platform.

    Regardless of choice, the executive thought it was "amazing" how many could spend $200 on a smartphone and noticed the trends weren't slowing. "People are not buying basic phones anymore," he said.
    09-08-10 03:04 PM
  3. mark_rivers19's Avatar
    i'm not surprised nor bothered by this..
    i like the phone since day 1.. i'm still liking it.. end of story.
    i don't really care if 5 or 50 people in the subway has the same phone..
    i will actually feel bad if every Tom,**** and Harry has the torch.. it makes my phone too common..
    09-08-10 03:11 PM
  4. blazed12's Avatar
    I hope they're not expecting the sales of the Torch to be like iPhone..
    09-08-10 03:11 PM
  5. tumer's Avatar
    i call this article bs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want a live video feed or it recorded on tape so i can hear it for myself other then that i dont believe anyone any more
    09-08-10 03:17 PM
  6. MACKSnare519's Avatar
    I wouldn't want to see the streets flooded with the Torch, either. I don't like everyone and their brother having the same phone as I do. I had deal with enough of that with the 83xx Curves. But I would like to see it do well, because I like RIM and want the BlackBerry to continue to prosper and grow(and maybe even start to be more innovative and cutting edge) BlackBerry is what I prefer.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    09-08-10 03:18 PM
  7. ibcop's Avatar
    I hope they're not expecting the sales of the Torch to be like iPhone..
    Kinda seems that way, doesn't it?
    09-08-10 03:19 PM
  8. dchawk81's Avatar
    I think they were just expecting the Torch to be hotter than it is.
    09-08-10 03:21 PM
  9. madlaw1071's Avatar
    If they expected the Torch to be anything other than a stop gap they were fooling themselves and by they I refer to RIM.
    09-08-10 03:22 PM
  10. NoahFecks's Avatar
    Why would anyone here care what sales are like? Pointless thread.
    09-08-10 03:23 PM
  11. blazed12's Avatar
    Kinda seems that way, doesn't it?
    Yep.

    10char.

    EDIT: Does buying the Torch without contract counts?
    Last edited by blazed12; 09-08-10 at 03:26 PM.
    09-08-10 03:24 PM
  12. mark_rivers19's Avatar
    the Ads for the Torch are flooding the TV and the internet..
    they should have taken a page from Steve and did that before the release..
    Manufacture a certain hype... make people want the device more.. things like that!
    09-08-10 03:26 PM
  13. madlaw1071's Avatar
    Why would anyone here care what sales are like? Pointless thread.
    Thanks for posting anyway.
    09-08-10 03:29 PM
  14. JasW's Avatar

    I've wondered why someone would come here and relentlessly only post comments, reviews, and articles that knock or otherwise impugn the Torch.

    But you know what? You're right. The Torch is a complete POS. I've been deluding myself these past few weeks. The happiness and satisfaction this device has brought me has been nothing but a complete illusion.

    I was blind but now I can see. Thank ye, lawd; thank ye, jeebus.

    From now on, I'm going to be just like you. I'm going to exchange this mini-door stop for a rilly cool Captivate, move into my mom's basement, and stream porn and play games all day long. Oh, yeah, and troll on CB. Just like you.
    09-08-10 03:31 PM
  15. KahneFan's Avatar
    Droid is across multiple carries (which the Torch should have been) and the iPhone had the big "leak' scandal shortly before it was officially launched, giving it MUCH more hype.

    I almost didn't bite the bullet since I was a Sprint customer... but the Torch looked too sweet. However, I'm sure there are MANY others out there who WOULD be buying the Torch if they didn't have to change carriers.
    09-08-10 03:31 PM
  16. grover5's Avatar
    Madlaw cares a lot...trust me, he needs this for some reason.
    09-08-10 03:33 PM
  17. theodoreandon's Avatar
    Copied for easier read. Thanks OP.

    AT&T surprised at slow Torch sales while Android, iPhone win
    updated 01:10 pm EDT, Wed September 8, 2010ATT hints BBerry Torch sales not up to targets

    AT&T's President of Wireless Operations in the US West, Fred Devereux, hinted today that sales of the BlackBerry Torch were disappointing. He told those at Seattle's Mobile Future Forward conference that he was "surprised there hasn't been a faster adoption" of the phone, which he thought was the best-ever BlackBerry to date. He didn't provide numbers, but the statement was unusual and backed unofficial analyst views that sales had cooled quickly after launch.

    Follow-up remarks suggested that Apple and Google may have been the primary factors. There was "tremendous momentum" for Android, Devereux said. The company only has a handful of Android devices headlined by the Samsung Captivate, but the iPhone has been a perpetual strong seller at AT&T and this year is still seeing shortages, even after nearly three months of availability.

    Various factors have been speculated behind any possible sluggishness in Torch sales. As the BlackBerry is still led by corporate sales, many customers may simply be tied to work accounts that won't or can't upgrade automatically. Electronista and others have also pointed out technical issues that may have disappointed buyers and led them to switch, such as a display resolution and processor unchanged from 2008 despite the more demanding BlackBerry 6 platform.

    Regardless of choice, the executive thought it was "amazing" how many could spend $200 on a smartphone and noticed the trends weren't slowing. "People are not buying basic phones anymore," he said.
    You conveniently forgot the update at the bottom of the article

    Update: AT&T said it's "pleased with Torch sales so far," although it stopped short of quantifying details.
    09-08-10 03:34 PM
  18. madlaw1071's Avatar
    I've wondered why someone would come here and relentlessly only post comments, reviews, and articles that knock or otherwise impugn the Torch.

    But you know what? You're right. The Torch is a complete POS. I've been deluding myself these past few weeks. The happiness and satisfaction this device has brought me has been nothing but a complete illusion.

    I was blind but now I can see. Thank ye, lawd; thank ye, jeebus.

    From now on, I'm going to be just like you. I'm going to exchange this mini-door stop for a rilly cool Captivate, move into my mom's basement, and stream porn and play games all day long. Oh, yeah, and troll on CB. Just like you.
    Darn it, I had to pause Angry Birds to read and reply to you Jas. How does that game look on a Torch?
    09-08-10 03:35 PM
  19. Fnord's Avatar
    They just added an update on the site:

    Update: AT&T said it's "pleased with Torch sales so far," although it stopped short of quantifying details.

    Edit: Sorry, theodoreandon beat me to it
    09-08-10 03:35 PM
  20. tumer's Avatar
    you guys are commenting on an article that might not be true.
    everyone allways wants to be first with news doent really matter anymore if its true or not. just like people were reporting the torch price was slashed to $99 that was a completely false it would have taken a minute to find out that that wasd not true did they care nope! so i honestly dont believe any of thes articles anymore
    09-08-10 03:36 PM
  21. theodoreandon's Avatar
    Darn it, I had to pause Angry Birds to read and reply to you Jas. How does that game look on a Torch?
    Question for Madlaw and others that come here just to hassle others - why? Why are you not on a website that talks about the phone you love? Why are you here? I guess I just don't get it.
    09-08-10 03:39 PM
  22. mark_rivers19's Avatar
    madlaw1071... call your firm and tell them to move those RIMM stocks..
    09-08-10 03:42 PM
  23. madlaw1071's Avatar
    Question for Madlaw and others that come here just to hassle others - why? Why are you not on a website that talks about the phone you love? Why are you here? I guess I just don't get it.
    You can find me over on AC, same screen name.

    Question for you...why do factual posts that may be derogatory towards the Torch bother so much? Why not just skip over the thread to something you like? This is forum, not a fan page. Robust discussion is completely appropriate.
    09-08-10 03:52 PM
  24. theodoreandon's Avatar
    You can find me over on AC, same screen name.

    Question for you...why do factual posts that may be derogatory towards the Torch bother so much? Why not just skip over the thread to something you like? This is forum, not a fan page. Robust discussion is completely appropriate.
    I don't know what AC is - and I can assure you I most likely could care less. I know that I would never go to a iPhone forum and talk about how crappy I think they are. Or an Android forum. I just googled iPhone sucks and there are plenty of people who think they do.

    I come here for information about the phone I have.

    But you didn't really answer my question - why do you care about BB's and feel the need to bash them? Why do you come here? Why post this article? Whats the deal?
    09-08-10 04:01 PM
  25. 67Tucker's Avatar
    i will actually feel bad if every Tom,**** and Harry has the torch.. it makes my phone too common..
    I wouldn't want to see the streets flooded with the Torch, either. I don't like everyone and their brother having the same phone as I do.
    I'm 100% sure that you walked into the AT&T store with that exact thought: "I'm gonna buy this Torch because no one else is buying it. I hate when I see other people with my phone!"
    09-08-10 04:02 PM
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