1. bambamboom's Avatar
    Okay I'll admit it. The screen isn't as bad as I expected. I was one of the people that was slamming the phone because the screen res was still the same as the old BBs. Coming from the iphone 4, I expected the difference to be noticable in every page. That's not the case. The screen is def not as good as the iphone, but its not super bad either. Web browsing, texting, etc is all fine on the torch with the given screen res. There is an area it REALLY sticks out though. Its the pictures/camera area. Compared to the iphone 4, the torches screen just looks grainy. Kind of unfortunate :/

    Which reminds me. The lack of apps doesn't bother me or the screen res anymore (looking and taking pictures does kind of irk me though) but it kinda ticks me off that the torch doesn't have hd recording. I know people are gonna say if u want hd video than bring a hd vid cam but still, it doesn't hurt when ur phone can take HD vid. I don't even take many vids, its just some nice to have and wish the torch had it.

    Anybody agree with me? (On both the alrightness of the screen res but the grainyness when taking or looking at pics and the lack of hd vid capture)

    Overall, good phone.

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    Last edited by ipodlover77; 09-23-10 at 11:00 AM.
    09-23-10 10:58 AM
  2. jcp007's Avatar
    It would have been nice to have HD video but it is a fact that was known before the release. It is supposedly either the chipset and/or the OS that needs to be updated.
    09-23-10 11:10 AM
  3. Stein357's Avatar
    BlackBerry's already less than stellar app market would have been more in trouble had RIM made a higher resolution screen that rendered past apps incompatible with the Torch. At least that's my theory. The Torch and OS6 could also be a stopgap until RIM releases their brand new OS, another theory of mine.
    09-23-10 11:16 AM
  4. NoahFecks's Avatar
    As far as I'm concerned HD is totally unnecessary on a phone, same with a high quality camera (notice I'm not talking megapixels, as that has relatively nothing to do with quality). With the tiny lenses and low quality optics there's no way a phone is going to compare to a standard camera or camcorder, and one shouldn't expect them to.
    09-23-10 11:22 AM
  5. bambamboom's Avatar
    As far as I'm concerned HD is totally unnecessary on a phone, same with a high quality camera (notice I'm not talking megapixels, as that has relatively nothing to do with quality). With the tiny lenses and low quality optics there's no way a phone is going to compare to a standard camera or camcorder, and one shouldn't expect them to.
    i agree but if you were in a situation where you needed to take a picture would you rather take one with the iphone or the torch? i doubt you would say, "hold on, let me get my nikon at home"

    its not a necessity but its a perk that many manufactures are including in their phones.
    09-23-10 11:29 AM
  6. NoahFecks's Avatar
    i agree but if you were in a situation where you needed to take a picture would you rather take one with the iphone or the torch? i doubt you would say, "hold on, let me get my nikon at home"

    its not a necessity but its a perk that many manufactures are including in their phones.
    Honestly I've never been in a situation where I "needed" to take a picture, and if I were I really don't think I would be worrying about it being the highest quality imaginable. Even so, take a look in this thread:
    http://forums.crackberry.com/f209/po...0-here-513296/
    Most of the pics there don't look too shabby to me, certainly good enough if I "needed" to take a picture.
    09-23-10 11:49 AM
  7. LuvMyBB's Avatar
    HD? Meh...not really a concern of mine on a smartphone.

    Picture quality? I definitely agree with the OP. Probably the biggest disappointment of mine. Wish I knew how to make the pics look less grainy. Heck, my 9000 had much better pic quality.
    09-23-10 10:01 PM
  8. shansmi's Avatar
    Grainy pics? There is a problem. I have taken many on 3 devices with no issues like on the 9k especially when in low light.

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    09-23-10 10:18 PM
  9. LuvMyBB's Avatar
    I meant images that are sent to me or saved on my phonr or card. Not the pics I take with the camera.

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    09-23-10 10:20 PM
  10. sleepngbear's Avatar
    It would have been nice to have HD video but it is a fact that was known before the release. It is supposedly either the chipset and/or the OS that needs to be updated.
    I don't watch movies on my phone. Never did, can't see myself wanting to any time soon. I got a big-a$$ TV in my living room and a sound system that shakes the house off the foundation for that. I do very little traveling that I would need to have that capability portable. The VGA display is perfectly adequate for my needs.

    I was skeptical about buying the Torch, too, partly because of the many reviews that panned it and partly out of fear of it not living up to the excellent experience I'd had with the Bold 9000. It took about an hour with the Torch to get over the Bold. The Torch is everything I could possibly want or need out of a smart phone.
    09-23-10 10:42 PM
  11. ryandinan's Avatar
    I have to agree with the OP about these "issues" that people had with the Torch.
    So the screen res is 480x360... It's also only 3.2" in size. That gives it a decidedly higher pixel density (187.5) than the iphone 3Gs with 480x320 at 3.5" (163ppi) - and that phone is still flying off the shelves - and you don't hear people moaning about the image.
    That's not to say that the iphone 4's 960x480 (330ppi) isn't very nice... It certainly is. But it also requires more processing power to drive it - and ultimately, more battery drain.

    Video Capture:
    The idea that the "HD" video captured by the iphone is anywhere near "HD" is kinda laughable. As someone already pointed out, the optics and image processor and compression used, lack the ability to resolve such "HD" details. If you want an HD video camera, get a HD video camera.
    I don't think anyone bought the Torch thinking the 5MP camera was going to replace their real poin-n-shoot digital. It's just a "me too" feature, that can be useful at times.

    The Torch is primarily a business tool, with some very cool media features thrown in. Oh, and user-replaceable memory cards are a big plus. The iPhone's are more... play-oriented, in my opinion. Hey, I love a good game of Angry Birds
    09-23-10 11:21 PM
  12. colorbrandon's Avatar
    I originally thought the pictures looked grainy as well. I turned off compression in the settings and when I zoom in on pictures, its pretty crisp.

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    09-24-10 04:05 AM
  13. canusaybimmy's Avatar
    hd isn't really a concern of mine tbh but to each his own. Not really sure what I would even do with HD video on my camera lol.
    09-24-10 08:15 AM
  14. mark_rivers19's Avatar
    HD on any phone translates to better sex videos...
    that's all the use i can think of right now..
    if you want to make a movie about a family's wedding or a birthday.. you will definitely pick up a Video Cam..and not your smartphone.
    09-24-10 09:27 AM
  15. qbnkelt's Avatar
    that would be funny - watching porno on my phone on my way to work when we're all packed in like sardines on the train!!!!

    really?!?!? It's a freakin' phone....
    09-24-10 09:34 AM
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