- 300 bucks, ack... Be worth waiting a few weeks or however long it takes rogers to drop the price, that's just insane
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-29-10 02:23 PMLike 0 - I'm trying to remember what the Bold 9000 was when it first launched. I'm thinking I paid around $199, but I could be wrong. I imagine the Torch would be about the same... I can't see it being all that much more.08-29-10 03:01 PMLike 0
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Initial Release (September) all carriers: $ 299.00/3 Year
1st carrier to drop price (November): $ 249.00/3 Year
Christmas/Boxing Week: $ 199.00/3 Year
Post Boxing Week: $ 229.00/3 Year
By September 2011: $ 99.00/3 Year
Makes perfect sense from a carrier, maximize revenue perspective - all the early adopters will gladly pay the $ 300 (or more) to get the phone ASAP, and everyone else will simply wait until the price drops down to their comfort level before they pull the trigger. If sales are not on the desired curve, then they will simply start dropping the price sooner.08-29-10 03:29 PMLike 0 - If the Torch follows the same pricing curve that the Bold 9700 did, then I anticipate the following pricing model:
Initial Release (September) all carriers: $ 299.00/3 Year
1st carrier to drop price (November): $ 249.00/3 Year
Christmas/Boxing Week: $ 199.00/3 Year
Post Boxing Week: $ 229.00/3 Year
By September 2011: $ 99.00/3 Year
Makes perfect sense from a carrier, maximize revenue perspective - all the early adopters will gladly pay the $ 300 (or more) to get the phone ASAP, and everyone else will simply wait until the price drops down to their comfort level before they pull the trigger. If sales are not on the desired curve, then they will simply start dropping the price sooner.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-29-10 03:59 PMLike 0 - I only paid 100 for my 9000 when it came out on a 3 year contract.. And got a $50 rebate
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-29-10 04:10 PMLike 0 -
But when I got my Bold 9000 (Nov. '08) I only paid $100 (on 3 yrs) & got a $50 MIR.08-29-10 05:48 PMLike 0 - I don't think it makes sense. Carriers make money on the plans they sell, not on the phones. By lowering the price of the phone, they will gain more buyers, and more importantly, more contracts. If the phone were $300, I might as well buy it at full price and save myself the contract.
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-29-10 07:18 PMLike 0 - i'm going to be a new BlackBerry user in the coming weeks. Called rogers the other day to get a retentions plan...i was gonna get the bold 9700, but after hearing the torch is to be released mid/end september I might just wait.
But $299 on 3 year contract?! i might as well drive down to the states and pick one up for $499 no contract!!!
I was hoping for something around the $199 range for 3 year contract08-29-10 07:20 PMLike 0 -
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but some people have retention plans through rogers or w/e and they have to sign new contracts (ie: me...i don't mind as I don't upgrade phones all the time)08-29-10 07:43 PMLike 0 - Thats what I'm saying. Rogers makes there money off contracts. For them to have the price at 300$ would be ridiculous. They wouldn't make as much off this phone as if they would if the price was dropped. Most people would choose to pay the 600$ with no contract and save money in the long run.08-29-10 07:44 PMLike 0
- i'm going to be a new BlackBerry user in the coming weeks. Called rogers the other day to get a retentions plan...i was gonna get the bold 9700, but after hearing the torch is to be released mid/end september I might just wait.
But $299 on 3 year contract?! i might as well drive down to the states and pick one up for $499 no contract!!!
I was hoping for something around the $199 range for 3 year contract
i think when i go to NY in September i'll try and swing by an AT&T store and play with/buy one.08-29-10 08:12 PMLike 0 - maybe im just young and naive but was is the big deal with being on a contract? your not going to not have a mobile, your gunna be paying someone monthly, so what the big deal about being tied to a contract? i dont see how its worth 300 to not be on a contract, im not trying to bash people i just dont understand it so if there is a big reason could someone enlighten me08-29-10 08:42 PMLike 0
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I ran into a situation almost identical to this when WIND mobile came along and offered far cheaper rates without contracts.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.comLast edited by Masahiro; 08-29-10 at 09:19 PM.
08-29-10 09:15 PMLike 0 - maybe im just young and naive but was is the big deal with being on a contract? your not going to not have a mobile, your gunna be paying someone monthly, so what the big deal about being tied to a contract? i dont see how its worth 300 to not be on a contract, im not trying to bash people i just dont understand it so if there is a big reason could someone enlighten me
to a younger generation, it's not that big of a deal i guess, because we're probably always going to have a cell phone (most young people dont subscribe to a landline, and rely on cell phones as personal phones) but its hard to predict what could happen within 3 years. but it does kind of put a barrier up. say if telus comes out with a rockin awesome plan, instead of just switching over, you're committed to rogers, and will have to argue with retention to get what you want.
if (good) smartphones were priced at around the 199 sweet spot with no agreement, life would be a lot easier with cell phone services. sadly, thats not how it goes. and you can thank the man.
But back on topic, there's absolutely no justification for the phone to be that expensive. if anyone lives near the border, theres no reason to buy this phone in canada if it's priced like this. 499 US =/= 649 canadian. 199 US:2 year =/= 299 CAD: 3 year. and with our strong dollar, and canada's central bank with no intention of lowering the value, this is just exploitation, and RIM, Rogers, et al. should know better. Car companies have been stepping up. actual cell services i can see a justification for a bit of difference in price points, as markets and infrastructure is different, but this is core hardware. the rogers/bellus torches will likely be absolutely identical to the US. if canadians are sold the canadian built units, then theres no importation or tariffs of those units. absolute thievery. I'm 20 mins from waterloo and would not have any problem showing RIM how ****ed up it is to be ripping off your fellow citizens because you can.08-29-10 11:03 PMLike 0
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