[gameson]

The only way to confirm if one is heavier than the others is by weighing it with scale, otherwise it's not right

[TheScionicMan]

The heavier one probably has more emails on it...

[ennx]

The word TORCH on the back looks horrible. The Canadian phone looks much better. The AT&T comes loaded with .141. The Canadian one with .246. They weigh the same. These are identical phones folks.

[gameson]

agree with rje. I like the 5 megapixel wording vs Torch on the back. In fact, I asked before if I can swap the backplate.

[ennx]

It looks like a cheap phone with TORCH on the back.

[TheScionicMan]

Maybe .141 weighs more than .246. How big is the weight difference? Does it feel like a few megabytes?

[Roo Zilla]

the weight of both the models is same as per the specifications mentioned on their websites. all the dimensions look quite similar except their length. The length of rogers phone is 111 mm (4.37 inches), whereas that of at&t is 5.83 inches (148.1 mm). The rogers website doesn't mention the display size but I don't think that would be different as they won't change the LCD (or they might).

http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wirel...709+4294967111

BlackBerry® Torch (TM) Cell Phone - Wireless from AT&T

The Rogers description is the device closed. The AT&T description is the device opened.

[ennx]

They weigh exactly the same, unless for some reason the battery on your AT&T is slightly different and heavier. These phones are identical.

[Masahiro]

Does the ATT version have the network option of "3G Only"? I have mine set to that, and it "seems" to improve the battery life.

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[PapiPabs]

The heavier one probably has more emails on it...

LMFAO. Yeah, probably all those beefy attachments.

[anoxia187]

Does the ATT version have the network option of "3G Only"? I have mine set to that, and it "seems" to improve the battery life.

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Nope Only 2G or 2G and 3G.. Rogers has Option for 2G , 3G or 2G & 3G.

[Aceroller]

Why in the world would having the phone say "Torch" on the back make it "look cheap"? Really????

[buwee]

I think having "5 mega pixels" looks cheesy where as having the word "Torch" on it actually identifies the model of the Blackberry

[IGeeve]

I think having "5 mega pixels" looks cheesy where as having the word "Torch" on it actually identifies the model of the Blackberry

Not really necessary for having "Torch" on the back, the phone speaks for itself.

[spitothec]

Not really necessary for having "Torch" on the back, the phone speaks for itself.

I've had a few people mistake it for a Palm Pre.

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[karmonie]

I personally like the smaller, more discreet "5.0 MP Auto Focus" way more than "Torch" in huge font at the back.

[tam0o]

is the hardware better? like no more sliding problems on the canadian versions?

[will1881]

Nope Only 2G or 2G and 3G.. Rogers has Option for 2G , 3G or 2G & 3G.

Anyone know why the Torch on ATT didn't give the extra option for 3G only?

I have an unlocked torch from ATT running on O2 network here in the UK and installed the official Rogers .246 software and i only get these network modes: 2g, 2g & 3g.

i want 3g only and don't want it switching between 2g & 3g by itself. Why didn't they put it? Does anyone know if i can somehow get the option of putting 3g only? (without doing the engineering screen way as that seems to be temporary)

[karmonie]

Anyone know why the Torch on ATT didn't give the extra option for 3G only?

I have an unlocked torch from ATT running on O2 network here in the UK and installed the official Rogers .246 software and i only get these network modes: 2g, 2g & 3g.

i want 3g only and don't want it switching between 2g & 3g by itself. Why didn't they put it? Does anyone know if i can somehow get the option of putting 3g only? (without doing the engineering screen way as that seems to be temporary)

WHen I used a Verizon BB, even though the phone had 3G, and my network had 3G, I was also only given the options 2G and 2G & 3G. My phone never went to 3G, only EDGE. A friend said it's because Verizon is CDMA and that's what happens when I bring a CDMA phone to a GSM network. COuld it be due to the network difference for you?

[spitothec]

is the hardware better? like no more sliding problems on the canadian versions?

It's the same phone built in the same factories by the same workers using the same parts.

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[will1881]

WHen I used a Verizon BB, even though the phone had 3G, and my network had 3G, I was also only given the options 2G and 2G & 3G. My phone never went to 3G, only EDGE. A friend said it's because Verizon is CDMA and that's what happens when I bring a CDMA phone to a GSM network. COuld it be due to the network difference for you?

3G works fine here and the phone stays on it the majority of the time but sometimes likes to switch to 2G which i want to prevent.