1. Starchest's Avatar
    Device is great, solid and comfortable. Using it is a pleasure. But this battery life is a JOKE. I can't see how I'm going to get used to this when my old 9700 got easily 2 days of one charge. Just had to get it off my chest.

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    01-03-11 07:02 AM
  2. homer1475's Avatar
    My battery with heavy usage would easily last 2 days even though I charge every night. I don't understand why people just cant charge the device while they sleep, you cant use it then anyways. If you charge every night while you sleep it won't be a problem.

    Your comparing 2 batteries of different sizes and 2 totally different phones. If your 9700 had a touchscreen the size of the torch's, I'll bet the battery on that wouldn't last half as long.
    01-03-11 08:07 AM
  3. Gomz's Avatar
    I do always charge my device every night that was the right thing to do, it was so easy to do, I'm a heavy user but last 24 hours. and also i every time i'm got a new device i make sure i would calibrate it at least 5 times from my first charged.
    01-03-11 08:21 AM
  4. MikeGomez's Avatar
    Just charges it while you sleep, have a car charger or one extra charger in your office. It solve
    Anyway my goes 1 1/2 day with heavy use but I have extra charger so I dont really care I got my to used it not for the battery.

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    01-03-11 08:22 AM
  5. homer1475's Avatar
    There is no need to "calibrate" your battery as you stated. Lithium batteries do not retain a memory like older NIcads and NImh type batteries.

    In case you didn't know batteries memory is where you half discharge a battery then recharge all the time and the battery always thinks its empty on a half charge.
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    01-03-11 08:26 AM
  6. Gomz's Avatar
    There is no need to "calibrate" your battery as you stated. Lithium batteries do not retain a memory like older NIcads and NImh type batteries.

    In case you didn't know batteries memory is where you half discharge a battery then recharge all the time and the battery always thinks its empty on a half charge.
    It is great that we have a forum like this, we happen to have a good info thanks for the heads up @homer1475 i didn't know that. lol...
    01-03-11 08:32 AM
  7. Starchest's Avatar
    There is no need to "calibrate" your battery as you stated. Lithium batteries do not retain a memory like older NIcads and NImh type batteries.

    In case you didn't know batteries memory is where you half discharge a battery then recharge all the time and the battery always thinks its empty on a half charge.
    So I should wait for my torch to be with almost no charge to charge it? Or is that old batteries?
    01-03-11 08:49 AM
  8. homer1475's Avatar
    So I should wait for my torch to be with almost no charge to charge it? Or is that old batteries?
    That is older type rechargeable's.

    Ive used nickel metal hydride(NIMH) and nickel cadmium(NICAD) and lithium ion as well as lithium polymer(new technology) in my hobby of r/c aircraft for many many years. I know about rechargeable batteries. lmao

    You can search this on the net and you'll find the same info I'm giving. The best bet is to totally discharge the battery(via the device so it doesn't over drain and actually kill the battery) every 50 or so cycles. You cannot over drain the battery in the device as it has an auto shutdown mode when the battery drops below a safe discharge level. Lithium type batteries will "die" if you over discharge them below 10% per cell.


    With lithium type batteries there is no harm in "bump" charging the battery at all. I often throw mine on a charger when I'm near one, just so I'm always sure I have enough battery to last, you never know where your going or what your doing sometimes.
    01-03-11 08:58 AM
  9. Starchest's Avatar
    That is older type rechargeable's.

    Ive used nickel metal hydride(NIMH) and nickel cadmium(NICAD) and lithium ion as well as lithium polymer(new technology) in my hobby of r/c aircraft for many many years. I know about rechargeable batteries. lmao

    You can search this on the net and you'll find the same info I'm giving. The best bet is to totally discharge the battery(via the device so it doesn't over drain and actually kill the battery) every 50 or so cycles. You cannot over drain the battery in the device as it has an auto shutdown mode when the battery drops below a safe discharge level. Lithium type batteries will "die" if you over discharge them below 10% per cell.


    With lithium type batteries there is no harm in "bump" charging the battery at all. I often throw mine on a charger when I'm near one, just so I'm always sure I have enough battery to last, you never know where your going or what your doing sometimes.
    Oh awesome, I see, so I should drain the battery once in a while. Great info, thanks.
    01-03-11 09:06 AM
  10. jessassej's Avatar
    One question: will 'over-charging' harm the Torch's battery life? Cause when I just got a blackberry, all my friend told me was 'do not over-charge!'.

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    01-03-11 09:08 AM
  11. Starchest's Avatar
    One question: will 'over-charging' harm the Torch's battery life? Cause when I just got a blackberry, all my friend told me was 'do not over-charge!'.

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    Good question, maybe Homer can help us out.
    01-03-11 09:10 AM
  12. homer1475's Avatar
    One question: will 'over-charging' harm the Torch's battery life? Cause when I just got a blackberry, all my friend told me was 'do not over-charge!'.

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    There is no way to "over" charge the battery either if you use the OE charger that came with the device, I wont comment on non OE chargers but it shouldn't matter either.

    There is a circuit in the phone that shuts the charging off when at full capacity, if it sits on the charger it will trickle charge the battery(apply a light charge when needed). Your "friends" are giving you false information.
    01-03-11 09:11 AM
  13. jessassej's Avatar
    There is no way to "over" charge the battery either if you use the OE charger that came with the device, I wont comment on non OE chargers but it shouldn't matter either.

    There is a circuit in the phone that shuts the charging off when at full capacity, if it sits on the charger it will trickle charge the battery(apply a light charge when needed). Your "friends" are giving you false information.
    Now i can put my mind at ease! Thanks homer!
    01-03-11 09:28 AM
  14. homer1475's Avatar
    Now i can put my mind at ease! Thanks homer!
    Your more then welcome.

    Just a side note:
    if you "over" charged a lithium type battery, they explode and catch fire(the main reason we have "charging boxes" for r/c lithium batteries, happens more times then i would like to admit). Youtube it, there are several videos on there showing what happens. If this happened on our devices, imagine the lawsuits. lmao
    Last edited by homer1475; 01-03-11 at 09:35 AM.
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    01-03-11 09:32 AM
  15. Pilot Prop's Avatar
    I too switched from a 9700 to the Torch and the difference in battery life was one of the first things that stood out to me. But I usually get a good day out of my Torch mostly.
    01-03-11 09:33 AM
  16. xDAKx's Avatar
    I personally have been able to get through 2 days on my Torch as well, 2 days being off the charger at 6am, and not back on again until about 6pm (when I'll usually hit the red) the next day.

    Not bad, considering my 9700 would have only made it a few more hours, Overall I'm happy with my battery life.
    01-03-11 04:28 PM
  17. fass's Avatar
    One question: will 'over-charging' harm the Torch's battery life? Cause when I just got a blackberry, all my friend told me was 'do not over-charge!'.

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    You can't "over-charge" but you can complicate your life by letting your phone run completely down and leaving it that way too long.
    01-03-11 04:36 PM
  18. sleepngbear's Avatar
    Device is great, solid and comfortable. Using it is a pleasure. But this battery life is a JOKE. I can't see how I'm going to get used to this when my old 9700 got easily 2 days of one charge. Just had to get it off my chest.

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    Torch's battery life is definitely less than the Bold, but not that much less.

    1. Check that you don't have apps running in the background (hold the BB button to see what's running). You should only have Home, BBM, Phone, Messages, and Browser running. Anything else is eating up juice unnecessarily.
    2. If you're in an area that has crappy 3G coverage, your phone may be searching for a 3G signal and/or flip-flopping between 2G and 3G, both of which drain power quickly. You may want to consider changing it to 2G (Options>Networks and Connections>Mobile Network>Network Mode = 2G).
    3. Just charge it overnight. As others have said, you can't over-charge it, and there's absolutely no benefit to running it all the way down before recharging.

    btw, fwiw, I've been off the charger since 7 AM today, and my battery is still at 85%. I've got GPS on and BeWeather refreshing three locations every couple of hours.
    01-03-11 07:07 PM
  19. Harryl6134's Avatar
    Thanks, all...a verry informative post!
    01-04-11 04:16 PM
  20. leafs2k9's Avatar
    my krazr phone gave me 1 hr after i made a phone call lmao so the torch is not that bad
    01-04-11 08:57 PM
  21. webmeister's Avatar
    One other thing. The Torch has a "smart battery" with built-in circuitry that communicates with the charging subsystem of the phone. When you put the battery into the phone, the phone's OS communicates with the battery to determine if:
    1. it is kosher [an official BB battery] and;
    2. what it's state of charge is.


    This is why when you buy cheap knock-offs (like I just did!) of the Torch's F-S1 battery on eBay, they often come with complicated instructions and docking cradles, etc., that will allow you to clone the settings from your official BB battery to the new battery before it will be recognized (and thus usable) on your Torch.

    Smart phone and smart battery!
    01-04-11 09:14 PM
  22. webmeister's Avatar
    Torch's battery life is definitely less than the Bold, but not that much less.

    1. Check that you don't have apps running in the background (hold the BB button to see what's running). You should only have Home, BBM, Phone, Messages, and Browser running. Anything else is eating up juice unnecessarily.
    2. If you're in an area that has crappy 3G coverage, your phone may be searching for a 3G signal and/or flip-flopping between 2G and 3G, both of which drain power quickly. You may want to consider changing it to 2G (Options>Networks and Connections>Mobile Network>Network Mode = 2G).
    3. Just charge it overnight. As others have said, you can't over-charge it, and there's absolutely no benefit to running it all the way down before recharging.

    btw, fwiw, I've been off the charger since 7 AM today, and my battery is still at 85%. I've got GPS on and BeWeather refreshing three locations every couple of hours.
    Good advice. I only get 3G with Bell Mobility (no 2G fallback) and I use my Bluetooth headphones to stream radio both to and from work on the bus *and* to listen to MP3s while at work and I'm hovering around 40% battery by 4 pm.

    I don't use it for much more during the work day because I couldn't be bothered with the distraction of continuously checking my email on my BB. Also, only my wife and kids have the phone number, so unless I'm making a couple of calls, the multimedia/ Internet thing is the main use that I put my Torch through during the day.

    I, too, come from a Bold 9700 and feel that the small penalty in battery life is definitely worth it given all the additional goodness that comes with this phone!
    01-04-11 09:19 PM
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