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No, the cell companies are using "4G" as a marketing gimmick. Nobody has a true 4G network in the us yet because they can't do 100mbps over wireless. The torch doesn't support the new HSPA+ so it won't see much speed improvement on 3G.
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So, in other words, no.No, the cell companies are using "4G" as a marketing gimmick. Nobody has a true 4G network in the us yet because they can't do 100mbps over wireless. The torch doesn't support the new HSPA+ so it won't see much speed improvement on 3G.
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Better question would be, are there any 4G networks? The answer would be no on both parts.
I'm wondering if big red likes fooling their customers into thinking there network is faster. Just wait till all those iphones get on there. You can say goodbye to any decent speeds you used to get on big red.01-11-11 08:06 AMLike 0 -
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Well, let's not forget, AT&T just up and decreed that their network was magically transformed into 4G. Now we hear that customers all want 4G, so by golly, let's give 'em 4G. (In other words;An excuse to alter their rate plans and start charging for something they don't have, how positively governmental!
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Not that I agree with any of this so called "4G" nonsense, but T-Mobile was already calling their HSPA+ network 4G (which is identical to AT&T's). So AT&T is just matching their claim so as not to be left in the dust...Well, let's not forget, AT&T just up and decreed that their network was magically transformed into 4G. Now we hear that customers all want 4G, so by golly, let's give 'em 4G. (In other words;An excuse to alter their rate plans and start charging for something they don't have, how positively governmental!01-11-11 08:50 AMLike 0 -
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Good article from Gizmodo is anyone wants more info on so called 4G in the US
The Dirty Secret of Today's 4G: It's Not 4G01-11-11 08:54 AMLike 0 -
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I wonder if big blue likes fooling their customers into thinking that their network doesn't suck. VZW doesn't claim that their network is faster (except 4G), they just claim that it's BETTER.Better question would be, are there any 4G networks? The answer would be no on both parts.
I'm wondering if big red likes fooling their customers into thinking there network is faster. Just wait till all those iphones get on there. You can say goodbye to any decent speeds you used to get on big red.01-11-11 08:59 AMLike 0 -
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That was a largely sarcastic post. And they've all done a good job of "How can we fool 'em today" on this.
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That could be debated for hours on end. I personally thing big red's coverage(least in my area of the woods) blows monkey balls.
Case in point, my brother in law has Verizon I have AT&T, we constantly are comparing signal strength. Guess who wins 99.9% of the time? Certainly not the BIG red liar. We both have curves, we both tested network speed and i always win in that category also. Only thing he wins in is plan pricing. I'm more then happy to pay an extra 30 bucks a month for service I know will work when I need it to.
I'm sure someone will chime in and say just the opposite. But like I stated "we can debate that for hours" it all depends on where in the country you are, and what device your using.
AT&T claims to have a better and faster network, I'm inclined to believe them, least in my real world experience, with 2 identical phones doing the same exact things, it holds true.01-11-11 09:05 AMLike 0 -
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They call their HSPA+ 4G on their site:
4G Mobile Broadband - Wireless from AT&T
More info:
AT&T's 4G is HSPA+ (Like T-Mobile's)01-11-11 09:05 AMLike 0 -
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I like how in this link its ok(in the posters minds) for Verizon to call LTE 4g but not AT&T. This is a huge LOL in my mind.01-11-11 09:15 AMLike 0 -
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Look, comparing carriers is obviously an anecdotal exercise. But I think the majority consensus (both on this site, other sites, and word of mouth) is that Verizon has much more coverage, particularly if you're away from major metropolitan areas. And that if you are in a concentrated area (where lots of iPhones are likely to be), you're less likely to have the oversaturated spectrum issue. That doesn't mean that a Verizon signal will ALWAYS be better, but it is a general rule.
My wife doesn't understand why I want to leave AT&T when our contract is up. She says that she has always had some type of reception. But she uses FAR less data than I do, and she's going off of what the bars on her phone say, NOT how it actually performs. The spectrum problem may happen even when your phone says "5-bar reception". Also, there's a difference between having "reception" (which could be GSM, Edge, or any form of 2G), as opposed to a real 3G data connection. I live in Minnesota, and virtually the entire Western (and northern) parts of the state I drive to get no hint of AT&T's 3G. I ask people who live there what they use, and they all say Verizon. So I have to take that for what it's worth. Perhaps people in other out-state areas of the country have better luck with a different carrier.01-11-11 01:52 PMLike 0 -
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There are currently no true 4G networks at the moment, what AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint and even Verizon are guilty of are marketing what is actually considered 3.5G (just as Enhanced EDGE was considered 2.5G) as 4G when it is in fact not.
This will come back to haunt them in a few years when they have true 4G, and no one is buying into their 4G adverts and products since they already used up any value in the naming a few years back.01-12-11 08:04 AMLike 0 -
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very true, thats `advanced` 4G i believe they gonna call it.There are currently no true 4G networks at the moment, what AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint and even Verizon are guilty of are marketing what is actually considered 3.5G (just as Enhanced EDGE was considered 2.5G) as 4G when it is in fact not.
This will come back to haunt them in a few years when they have true 4G, and no one is buying into their 4G adverts and products since they already used up any value in the naming a few years back.
i think the verizon dude at the iphone event yesterday made the point very clear with `we considered calling it 6G` tooo funny01-12-11 08:11 AMLike 0
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