but, i made the change to the evil side and have gone with the iphone 5. i had the original iphone after a bb and went with the bold 9800 a few years ago. i love the keyboard, but after getting the new ipad and my bb acting up, i made the change saturday. i thank y'all for your help with issues over the years and will check crackberry everyday as i have for the past few years. i have an upgrade on my other line in feb and will get the new bb if it is available then. i am adjusting to not having a keyboard (the main reason i held on to bb) and wish y'all well. but, with itunes, ipad, etc; i couldn't hold out until bb10 was introduced. yes, it has been a sad transition...