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  1. RentzM63B's Avatar
    So what are the differences between the 9550 and 9520? They're both the Storm 2, correct? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I did a quick search and couldn't really find much. And why would the storm 2 be a 9520 when the Storm 1 is a 9530? I guess I just assumed the numbers go UP, not DOWN. Do we know what carriers are expected to get which model?

    All I know is the differences in UDMS and CDMA for each but are those the only things that are different and what makes one better than the other? And why wouldn't they just come out with the better one and not both? Service conflicts or something? I'm confused, sorry...

    Anyways, any help is appreciated. Thanks...
    10-06-09 01:47 PM
  2. Pat6290's Avatar
    U.....TMS? lol

    before people flame him, I kind of want to know the main difference between them as well. I mean obviously 9550 = CDMA and 9520 = GSM but why does vodaphone need a different version if the 9550 is a world phone and equipped with gsm?
    10-06-09 01:53 PM
  3. RentzM63B's Avatar
    Errrr... Yeah, UTMS... That's what I meant
    10-06-09 01:58 PM
  4. wittwizard07's Avatar
    first off, without flaming either of you.... its actually UMTS (universal mobile telecommunication system i believe) and pat is right it really boils down to network specifics. the 9550 will be a dual band device (cdma, gsm/umts 2100mhz) and the 9520 will be GSM/umts only. but the 9520 WILL NOT carry the US stateside 850mhz and 1900mhz frequencies.
    10-06-09 02:02 PM
  5. TallyHo's Avatar
    9520 WILL NOT carry the US stateside 850mhz and 1900mhz frequencies.
    Oh it will carry them, just won't be accessible.....at least that's the scuttlebutt.

    @OP.....YOu must be forgetting that the original storm was released in 2 models as well.

    9500 = GSM Vodaphone
    9530 = CDMA Verizon, Telus, etc
    10-06-09 02:04 PM
  6. RentzM63B's Avatar
    Oh it will carry them, just won't be accessible.....at least that's the scuttlebutt.

    @OP.....YOu must be forgetting that the original storm was released in 2 models as well.

    9500 = GSM Vodaphone
    9530 = CDMA Verizon, Telus, etc

    Oh, I didn't forget I just never knew that haha.. I assumed it was the 9500 when it was released and then they up-graded it to the 9530 sometime later... Apparently assumptions ARE no good...

    So, if I understand correctly, 9550 will be the US version?
    10-06-09 02:10 PM
  7. Cal-El's Avatar
    So, having a 9530 on tmobile, I know it can be picky and only certain radios will give you EDGE and not edge. Would the GSM only 9520 be a better phone to use on tmobile than the CDMA/GSM 9550? Should I just buy a 9520 from Vodafone instead of buying the 9550 and using that? Makes sense to me that the GSM only would be less picky being that there is no CDMA hardware involved!
    10-06-09 02:15 PM
  8. Shadow.xXx's Avatar
    So, having a 9530 on tmobile, I know it can be picky and only certain radios will give you EDGE and not edge. Would the GSM only 9520 be a better phone to use on tmobile than the CDMA/GSM 9550? Should I just buy a 9520 from Vodafone instead of buying the 9550 and using that? Makes sense to me that the GSM only would be less picky being that there is no CDMA hardware involved!
    They should be the same.
    10-06-09 02:37 PM
  9. TallyHo's Avatar
    Oh, I didn't forget I just never knew that haha.. I assumed it was the 9500 when it was released and then they up-graded it to the 9530 sometime later... Apparently assumptions ARE no good...

    So, if I understand correctly, 9550 will be the US version?
    9550 is the NA CDMA version. Verizon is getting as might Telus or Bell....the latter aren't confirmed.

    9520 is the GSM version. If any NA GSM carriers were to get the S2, it would be this version.

    So you know...

    NA GSM Carriers:
    ATT
    TMO USA
    Rogers
    Bell/Telus - new HSDPA network coming soon

    NA CDMA Carriers
    Verizon
    Srpint/Nextel
    Bell
    Telus

    Yeah, there are others too, but they don't matter tbh.
    10-06-09 02:44 PM
  10. galambo's Avatar
    They should be the same.
    stupid question from me, a stupid guy.

    so in NA on a GSM network (read rogers) which unlocked phone is better in terms of freq usage etc.

    9550 or 9530

    thks from a dense guy who doesn't understand all the differnet frequenect etc
    10-06-09 03:58 PM
  11. TallyHo's Avatar
    stupid question from me, a stupid guy.

    so in NA on a GSM network (read rogers) which unlocked phone is better in terms of freq usage etc.

    9550 or 9530

    thks from a dense guy who doesn't understand all the differnet frequenect etc
    I assume you mean 9550 or 9520

    If things work out the way they are said, (NA 3G frequencies 850/1900) are locked on the S2, then it won't matter which phone you get.

    Here's the deal....

    9550 - This phone is really a CDMA phone. It is meant to work in the US for Verizon. They relaize business people want a phone tht can work over seas too, so the add the GSM (the standards for the rest of the world) to the phone and call it a "World Phone." This simply means you can insert a sim card and it will work overseas. That allows NA GSM carriers (Rogers, ATT, TMO) to unlock the phone and use it here with their SIM card. The only issue is that the GSM radio only have the 2100 Mhz freq available, so it will still work with ATT, Rogers, and TMo.....you just only get EDGE and not 3G.

    9520 - This phone is made to be used overseas. That said, it doesn't have the CDMA radio in it. It has the same GSM radio that the 9550 has and is limited to the same 2100 MHz frequency that the 9550 is limited to.

    All that said.....If you live in NA, I would go with the 9550 if you feel you may ever want to switch to Verizon. If you will not ever switch to Verizon, then it doesn't matter which device you get to be honest. They will both function the exact same way.
    10-06-09 04:13 PM
  12. JRSCCivic98's Avatar
    Look at it like the difference between a 9500 and 9530... close enough anyway. The guts are all identical anyway.
    10-06-09 04:58 PM
  13. thecrab's Avatar
    Will storm 2 take advantage of Belus's HSDPA. they announced they will be selling iphone next month.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-06-09 05:48 PM
  14. vegan411's Avatar
    I assume you mean 9550 or 9520

    If things work out the way they are said, (NA 3G frequencies 850/1900) are locked on the S2, then it won't matter which phone you get.

    Here's the deal....

    9550 - This phone is really a CDMA phone. It is meant to work in the US for Verizon. They relaize business people want a phone tht can work over seas too, so the add the GSM (the standards for the rest of the world) to the phone and call it a "World Phone." This simply means you can insert a sim card and it will work overseas. That allows NA GSM carriers (Rogers, ATT, TMO) to unlock the phone and use it here with their SIM card. The only issue is that the GSM radio only have the 2100 Mhz freq available, so it will still work with ATT, Rogers, and TMo.....you just only get EDGE and not 3G.

    9520 - This phone is made to be used overseas. That said, it doesn't have the CDMA radio in it. It has the same GSM radio that the 9550 has and is limited to the same 2100 MHz frequency that the 9550 is limited to.

    All that said.....If you live in NA, I would go with the 9550 if you feel you may ever want to switch to Verizon. If you will not ever switch to Verizon, then it doesn't matter which device you get to be honest. They will both function the exact same way.
    Ok, I understand the explanation for NA users, but I have question relating to regular overseas use:

    If I am a NA user willing to switch to verizon AND will also be spending considerable time overseas during the year, would getting the 9550 allow me to get 3G in both NA and europe? In other words, will getting the CDMA 9550 be my best option for getting 3G service in europe and NA?

    Sorry if this is a dumb question. Just trying to wrap my head around the 9520 NA frequency "lock" issue and 9550 not having 850/1900. Damn this shouldn't be so confusing ha.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-07-09 03:59 AM
  15. Limjelo's Avatar
    Short answer is yes. I currently do exactly as you say with my S1.

    Ok, I understand the explanation for NA users, but I have question relating to regular overseas use:

    If I am a NA user willing to switch to verizon AND will also be spending considerable time overseas during the year, would getting the 9550 allow me to get 3G in both NA and europe? In other words, will getting the CDMA 9550 be my best option for getting 3G service in europe and NA?

    Sorry if this is a dumb question. Just trying to wrap my head around the 9520 NA frequency "lock" issue and 9550 not having 850/1900. Damn this shouldn't be so confusing ha.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-07-09 09:58 AM
  16. photoeditor's Avatar
    To simplify:

    9520 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 850/1900/2100

    9550 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 2100; CDMA-1X-EVDO 850/1900

    Both are seven bands, they're just allocated differently on the data and CDMA end of things, with the 9550 re-allocating the standard version's North American data frequencies to CDMA-1X-EVDO. Also bear in mind that CDMA and EVDO share a radio even in 3G, while GSM effectively dead-ends at the 2.5G of GPRS and GSM carriers therefore had to go to UMTS.
    Last edited by photoeditor; 10-07-09 at 11:33 AM.
    10-07-09 11:28 AM
  17. Sally Mack's Avatar
    To simplify:

    9520 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 850/1900/2100

    9550 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 2100; CDMA-1X-EVDO 850/1900
    So according to you, the NA 3g bands are present for the 9520. I've heard conflicting reports over this.
    Can anyone confirm/deny? I'd love to use the 9520 on telus/bell's shiny new hspa network .

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-07-09 03:07 PM
  18. MitsuviKz's Avatar
    So the 9520 is a world phone? Or did I understand that incorrectly?
    10-07-09 05:54 PM
  19. galambo's Avatar
    So according to you, the NA 3g bands are present for the 9520. I've heard conflicting reports over this.
    Can anyone confirm/deny? I'd love to use the 9520 on telus/bell's shiny new hspa network .
    totally confused now. i am on rogers, and since it SEEMS that they, once again, will not care about thier customers, i need to get an unlock phone. the choice is the 9550 or 9520.

    so what to do? no idea any more
    10-07-09 06:09 PM
  20. caipijunior's Avatar
    Hello,

    I brougt me a Storm 2 (9550) from the US BlackBerry store (verizon) and unlocked it still in the US.
    My O2 account is set up for BlackBerry Dataoption and an internet flatrate, but nothing is working.
    I cannot register my phone in the O2 network.
    The 2G is always like gprs or edge the 3G is always 3G, but no connection to the Blackberry data services.

    I am pretty sure that the US version 9550 does not really work in the O2 Germany network. I tried nearly everything at least all I know.

    Greeting,
    Caipi
    11-28-09 05:44 AM
  21. karanveer's Avatar
    Hello,

    I brougt me a Storm 2 (9550) from the US BlackBerry store (verizon) and unlocked it still in the US.
    My O2 account is set up for BlackBerry Dataoption and an internet flatrate, but nothing is working.
    I cannot register my phone in the O2 network.
    The 2G is always like gprs or edge the 3G is always 3G, but no connection to the Blackberry data services.

    I am pretty sure that the US version 9550 does not really work in the O2 Germany network. I tried nearly everything at least all I know.

    Greeting,
    Caipi

    If your are getting gprs, edge then from the phone front everything is working fine with your network. I think you need to contact your service provider O2 and tell them to resend your service books as well as some providers require the PIN for them to be registered on their network especially when you are setting up email accounts and moving between phones.

    Alternatively, goto options - advanced options- Host routing table - Press the menu button - click on register now.
    11-28-09 10:26 AM
  22. kmflame's Avatar
    To simplify:

    9520 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 850/1900/2100

    9550 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 2100; CDMA-1X-EVDO 850/1900

    Both are seven bands, they're just allocated differently on the data and CDMA end of things, with the 9550 re-allocating the standard version's North American data frequencies to CDMA-1X-EVDO. Also bear in mind that CDMA and EVDO share a radio even in 3G, while GSM effectively dead-ends at the 2.5G of GPRS and GSM carriers therefore had to go to UMTS.
    Are you sure the 9520 got 850 UMTS? I have only seen the 2100 there :S
    11-28-09 01:58 PM
  23. caipijunior's Avatar
    If your are getting gprs, edge then from the phone front everything is working fine with your network. I think you need to contact your service provider O2 and tell them to resend your service books as well as some providers require the PIN for them to be registered on their network especially when you are setting up email accounts and moving between phones.

    Alternatively, goto options - advanced options- Host routing table - Press the menu button - click on register now.
    I tried all:
    - o2 Germany says that all is set up right on their side.
    - I have to register my phone on the o2 network. But I never get a response when I am trying via HTR - Register NOW!
    - Without registering my phone I cannot set up an account at o2online - BlackBerry!
    - And without registering I do not get the Service Books!
    It seems to be a circle which I am running in!

    Greetings,
    Caipi
    11-28-09 02:37 PM
  24. Masahiro's Avatar
    To simplify:

    9520 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 850/1900/2100

    9550 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 2100; CDMA-1X-EVDO 850/1900

    Both are seven bands, they're just allocated differently on the data and CDMA end of things, with the 9550 re-allocating the standard version's North American data frequencies to CDMA-1X-EVDO. Also bear in mind that CDMA and EVDO share a radio even in 3G, while GSM effectively dead-ends at the 2.5G of GPRS and GSM carriers therefore had to go to UMTS.
    I sure as **** hope you're right...

    I have another couple semi-related questions:

    - From what I understand, GSM radios are better overall for battery life. Does the same apply for the 9520 compared to the 9550?

    -Is the processor the same? I've heard of people with 9520s saying the processor is labeled as a Qualcomm 3G processor.
    11-28-09 02:41 PM
  25. Sparro's Avatar
    To simplify:

    9520 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 850/1900/2100

    9550 == GSM-GRPS 850/900/1800/1900; UMTS 2100; CDMA-1X-EVDO 850/1900

    Both are seven bands, they're just allocated differently on the data and CDMA end of things, with the 9550 re-allocating the standard version's North American data frequencies to CDMA-1X-EVDO. Also bear in mind that CDMA and EVDO share a radio even in 3G, while GSM effectively dead-ends at the 2.5G of GPRS and GSM carriers therefore had to go to UMTS.
    incorrect...
    9520 is UMTS 2100 only. There is no 850/1900.
    11-28-09 03:23 PM
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