Version Numbers Explained (.148, .203, .181)!

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05-31-09, 05:08 PM
FineWolf

Version Numbers Explained!
A RIM OS has three version numbers:

Application (4.7.0.148)
Application is basically everything that the phone does. From the SMS App, to BlackBerry Messenger, it is composed of all the applications that comes by default on your BlackBerry.

It is also the number people usualy refer to when talking about an OS release. In case of the latest Verizon update, it is 4.7.0.148.
Platform (4.0.0.181)

The platform is basically the "drivers" to the OS. It is the layer responsible of communicating commands to the hardware. It controls the cell phone radio, screen display, power regulation, camera (hardware) as well as the bluetooth radio. It is commonly refered to as the radio file on CrackBerry.

In case of Verizon's latest release, the platform number is 4.0.0.181.
Package (4.7.0.203)

RIM develops applications and platform separately. When they decide to put the two together for testing, they give the combo a version number. This is the package number. Arguably, this should be number used to refer to a particular OS number, but convention uses the application number instead.

In case of Verizon's latest release, the package version is 4.7.0.203.
When two releases have the same package number, it is safe to assume that they are the exact same release. The leaked version of the Verizon's release has the same package number, therefore it is the same.

There is also another number reported in your about screen:

Branding Version
The Branding Version changes from phone to phone and doesn't change on an OS update. Is will always be the same on your phone. Branding is saved on special memory while in factory.

The version number is formated the following way:
1.0.XXX.YYY
Where XXX is your Vendor ID and YYY is the Revision Number. Here are possible Vendor IDs (That I know of):
- 001 Research In Motion
- 100 T-Mobile US
- 101 AWS
- 102 Cingular Wireless or AT&T
- 103 Nextel
- 104 Sprint PCS
- 105 Verizon
- 106 Alltel
- 107 Rogers
- 109 Bell Mobility Canada
- 111 MM02 DE
- 113 Telfort
- 114 T-Mobile DE/AU
- 115 TIM
- 116 Hutchison
- 117 Bouygues
- 118 SFR
- 119 Orange_France
- 120 VODAFONE (UK)
- 121 Telcel
- 122 Telstra
- 123 T-Mobile (UK)
- 124 Vodafone Germany
- 125 MM02 UK/IRL/NL
- 126 Telus
- 127 SMART
- 128 Starhub
- 129 Telefonica
- 130 Swisscom
- 131 Cable & Wireless
- 132 Vodafone (IT)
- 133 Vodafone (ES)
- 134 T-Mobile (NL)
- 135 Cincinnati Bell
- 136 Telefonica_LAM
- 137 Vodafone Austria
- 138 Vodafone Australia
- 139 Vodafone Ireland
- 140 Vodafone Sweden
- 141 CSL
- 142 Orange UK
- 143 Vodafone New Zealand
- 144 SingTel
- 145 Globe
- 146 Optus
- 147 Orange Mobistar
- 148 Vodafone_HU
- 149 Bharti
- 150 KPN
- 151 TIM_Greece
- 152 Proximus
- 153 Vodafone_Portugal
- 154 TIM_Brazil
- 155 BT_Mobile
- 156 Earthlink
- 158 E-Plus
- 159 BASE
- 160 Dobson
- 161 Vodafone_Egypt
- 162 Orange_Switzerland
- 164 Triton
- 165 Maxis
- 166 Vodafone_Denmark_(TDC)
- 167 MobileOne_(Voda_Singapore)
- 168 Vodacom
- 169 T-Mobile_PO
- 170 T-Mobile_CZ
- 171 T-Mobile_HU
- 173 MTN
- 174 Entel
- 175 Amena
- 176 SmarTone
- 177 TCS
- 178 Avea
- 179 F100
- 180 Turkcell
- 181 Partner
- 183 Orange_Global
- 186 Telkomsel
- 188 Vodafone_Greece
- 189 USCC
- 190 Mobilink
- 194 Voda_Luxembourg
- 195 Voda_Iceland
- 198 Vodafone_CZ
- 204 China_Mobile
- 205 Movilnet
- 209 Sympac
- 210 TIM_Argentina
- 212 Etisalat
- 214 AMX
- 215 Telefonica_Venezuela
- 217 Orange Romania
- 218 KTP
- 222 Mobitel Bulgaria
- 224 PCCW/Sunday
- 227 Mobily
- 229 Eurotel
- 230 Hutchison Essar
05-31-09, 06:32 PM
FineWolf

Bump as I see a bunch of people asking questions about this...
05-31-09, 06:35 PM
rgustafson19

Originally Posted by FineWolf

A RIM OS has three version numbers:

Software - Platform - Package

Software is the software part of the OS, all the SMS apps, phone apps and everything.

Platform is the equivalent of the "drivers" in Windows. That's what is in charge of communicating with the hardware. It is also commonly called radio file here but it is also in charge of the display and sound.

Package is, well, software and platform.

Software has it's own version number (in this case, 4.7.0.148)
Platform has it's own version number (4.0.0.181)

Package is a number that gets incremented everytime RIM decides to put a software + platform together for testing. In this case, it is 4.7.0.203.

So, in the case of the official Verizon release:
Package: 4.7.0.203
Software: 4.7.0.148
Platform: 4.0.0.181

In the case of the leaked .148 release:
Package: 4.7.0.203
Software: 4.7.0.148
Platform: 4.0.0.181

Therefore, the leaked and the official Verizon release ARE IDENTICAL.

Great Post...now maybe the numerous threads and all the questions within the threads will decrease..

OK..wishful thinking...:D:D
Thanks
05-31-09, 06:40 PM
DeaconBlue

Originally Posted by rgustafson85

Great Post...now maybe the numerous threads and all the questions within the threads will decrease..

OK..wishful thinking...:D:D
Thanks

Yeah, that would be wishful thinking.
05-31-09, 06:42 PM
FineWolf

I just updated my post to be clearer.
05-31-09, 06:44 PM
kriptikchicken

So why is the Vodafone .141 'official' release 10megs larger than the .141 leak showing multiple file size differences and additional files when extracted and compared?
05-31-09, 06:45 PM
FineWolf

Originally Posted by kriptikchicken

So why is the Vodafone .141 'official' release 10megs larger than the .141 leak showing multiple file size differences and additional files when extracted and compared?

Vodafone had a different package number than the leaked version.

Also, don't forget that Vodaphone uses the 9500, so you need to be sure to compare the 9500 official with 9500 leak.
05-31-09, 06:51 PM
techitrucker

Language packs

Originally Posted by kriptikchicken

So why is the Vodafone .141 'official' release 10megs larger than the .141 leak showing multiple file size differences and additional files when extracted and compared?

If I remember right, the leak was English and Spanish only while the actual release was all languages for obvious reasons. Vodaphone is a very large company. Languages add quite a bit to a package. Could be wrong. Only had it installed like five minutes and .148 a got leaked unexpectedly.
06-01-09, 05:05 PM
FineWolf

Updated this post for Branding Information. Should be Stickied.
06-01-09, 05:08 PM
rfdesort

Originally Posted by FineWolf

Updated this post for Branding Information. Should be Stickied.

Wow, amazing post! Quite informative.
06-01-09, 05:20 PM
howarmat

I agree, this would have cut down on like 25+ threads :)
06-01-09, 05:27 PM
BoNg420

Originally Posted by rgustafson85

Great Post...now maybe the numerous threads and all the questions within the threads will decrease..

OK..wishful thinking...:D:D
Thanks

I highly doubt so because nobody uses the search button.
06-01-09, 05:33 PM
rjive

so can we vote this to a sticky?

+1 on my vote. This is very helpful
06-01-09, 05:59 PM
FineWolf

Originally Posted by rjive

so can we vote this to a sticky?

+1 on my vote. This is very helpful

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
06-01-09, 06:00 PM
JRSCCivic98

We need a vote for this as a sticky?

I vote for an AP Storm Forum... (Advanced Placement). ;)

Can I and some others have that please? :p We'll talk about all the fancy stuff way above the normal Joe's pay grade. :D
06-01-09, 06:00 PM
DriftDevil

Originally Posted by BoNg420

I highly doubt so because nobody uses the search button.

+1! yes! :D
06-01-09, 06:07 PM
FineWolf

Originally Posted by JRSCCivic98

We need a vote for this as a sticky?

I vote for an AP Storm Forum... (Advanced Placement). ;)

Can I and some others have that please? :p We'll talk about all the fancy stuff way above the normal Joe's pay grade. :D

Hhaha! Personally I would rather have a list of related thread when someone posts one right before it actually posts.
06-01-09, 06:11 PM
gtstang462002

Originally Posted by JRSCCivic98

We need a vote for this as a sticky?

I vote for an AP Storm Forum... (Advanced Placement). ;)

Can I and some others have that please? :p We'll talk about all the fancy stuff way above the normal Joe's pay grade. :D

I'll vote in favor of that:). Maybe by invite only?? At least has to have some sort of restriction as to whom can post in it.
06-01-09, 06:17 PM
FineWolf

Originally Posted by gtstang462002

I'll vote in favor of that:). Maybe by invite only?? At least has to have some sort of restriction as to whom can post in it.

That would be interesting too.
06-01-09, 07:13 PM
FineWolf

Just updated VendorID listing.
06-01-09, 07:18 PM
gtstang462002

Here is a large list if you want to fill in the holes:
http://forums.crackberry.com/f16/lis...or-id-s-18071/
06-01-09, 07:23 PM
FineWolf

Originally Posted by gtstang462002

Here is a large list if you want to fill in the holes:
http://forums.crackberry.com/f16/lis...or-id-s-18071/

That list is horribly outdated and it seems like every ID the user didn't know, he just filed the holes with Vodaphone.

Edit: And the list below is a bit outdated too... 109 is now Bell Mobility Canada. I did based my original list on a variation of that list.
06-01-09, 07:26 PM
gtstang462002

Originally Posted by FineWolf

That list is horribly outdated and it seems like every ID the user didn't know, he just filed the holes with Vodaphone.

I am sure that the list changes regularly...
06-01-09, 10:43 PM
FineWolf

Originally Posted by gtstang462002

I am sure that the list changes regularly...

With additions, sure, but once a Vendor has been assigned an ID, they should stick with it.
06-01-09, 10:57 PM
paulwright1

Originally Posted by BoNg420

I highly doubt so because nobody uses the search button.

search button? Wheres the search button? I had no idea there was a search button!

hehe:D

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