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  1. asmallchild's Avatar
    SONY

    Down 20pts/51% over past 6 months. BluRay to blame?
    02-16-09 09:04 PM
  2. xxxxpradaxxxx's Avatar
    Prada darling if you keep back talking to me ill make you sleep outside tonight
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Why?

    Does it make you feel inadequate when you can't find a decent response that would logically defend your stance?

    LOL at your caveman mentality.

    02-16-09 09:05 PM
  3. jdoc77's Avatar
    Nice almost tripple post. You have no financial creds, so according to you, your argument is... baseless.

    And prada, its not that he feels inadequate.. its that his whole argument against people who find FACTS to support the Storm's troubles has been either to simply call them trolls or to say they don't own one (whether we own one or not) ...

    and now it's turned around and he can't see the congruity
    02-16-09 09:06 PM
  4. montbb's Avatar
    RIM'S stock has done nothing but go down since it last hit 105ish late this past summer. It has been a dog with flea's citing all sorts of issues from the Canadian dollar loosing much of its strength against the US's and lower it guidance 2 consecutive quarters. The storm was just the straw that broke the camelís back, RIM needs a serious make over from the ground up or the street will take this once great tech stock all the way down into the 20ís.
    02-16-09 09:07 PM
  5. infamyx's Avatar
    SONY

    Down 20pts/51% over past 6 months. BluRay to blame?
    Those Blu-Rays are killing them their losing a ton of money on every PS3

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    02-16-09 09:07 PM
  6. xxxxpradaxxxx's Avatar
    Nice almost tripple post. You have no financial creds, so according to you, your argument is... baseless.
    It's okay jdoc-

    asmallchild is just trying to defend their stance by making it "seem" okay that RIM is failing, just because everyone else is too-

    It'll be okay smallie-
    02-16-09 09:08 PM
  7. asmallchild's Avatar
    Prada darling if you keep back talking to me ill make you sleep outside tonight

    and falling profits suggest a mixed shift in RIM products, according to UBS analyst

    Why does suggest and analyst mean that the person who is giving his advice is speculating on what he thinks is going on
    Yeah he gets paid to speculate on their past fiscal year..RIMs not losing money like sony so chill folks

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    I think we've proven that in this economy, everyone is struggling. The drop in stock prices (as you noted earlier) is often due to companies unable to match the estimates they had set for themselves.

    Is RIM doing poorly? Sure, in keeping with my theme, a 76pt/56% decrease over the last 6 months isn't something to celebrate about (unless you're AIG and feel the need to waste bailout money)

    But everyone else is doing poorly too. And attempting to pin the blame on one device/source/area/item is comical.
    02-16-09 09:08 PM
  8. asmallchild's Avatar
    DELL

    -15/-63% over past 6 mo. Laptop computers to blame?
    02-16-09 09:09 PM
  9. asmallchild's Avatar
    Those Blu-Rays are killing them their losing a ton of money on every PS3

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    True. But I'd be hesitant to pin BluRay as the sole cause of their economic woes.
    02-16-09 09:10 PM
  10. K-redtbk's Avatar
    Has the Storm played a role in lowering RIM's margins? Yes
    Was it expected? Yes
    Is it the only reason their margins have declined? No


    Numbers for the Storm have been beyond projections, forcing RIM to place rush orders with their suppliers for the components that go into the storm, forcing them to pay a premium. RIM has also had to pay a premium to have these parts expedited through the shipping channels.

    Other new models also carry lower margins during the beginning of their life cycle and you have RIM's margins trending down. As the products such as the Storm, Bold, 8900, etc mature their margins will increase sending RIM's overall margins higher.

    Add in all the new subscribers and RIM is sitting pretty in 6 months time.
    02-16-09 09:11 PM
  11. infamyx's Avatar
    This is lame any refute comes back to you clinging to a sole article...let me get to my goddamn pc I can't even watch family guy in peace

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    02-16-09 09:12 PM
  12. montbb's Avatar
    Although no stock has come through the crisis unscathed, RIM'S stock has done nothing but go down since it last hit 105ish past fall. It has been a dog with flea's citing all sorts of issues from the Canadian dollar loosing much of its strength against the US's and lower it guidance 2 consecutive quarters. The storm was just the straw that broke the camelís back, RIM needs a serious make over from the ground up or the street will take this once great tech stock all the way down into the 20ís.
    02-16-09 09:12 PM
  13. xxxxpradaxxxx's Avatar
    But everyone else is doing poorly too. And attempting to pin the blame on one device/source/area/item is comical.
    Wait Wait Wait!

    Are you trying to say that if Company A makes Product B-

    And they market product B as being the best of the best, the be all and end all of all touchscreen phones-

    And Company A invests all this time and money on Said Product B-

    And In the End Product B does Horribly-

    And then After all is said and done investors and consumers are totally let down by Product B-

    That it is COMICAL to think that Product B damaged Company A?

    Huh?
    02-16-09 09:13 PM
  14. jdoc77's Avatar
    Find all the random stock quotes you want, they are irrelevant because the ARTICLE'S EXPERTS explained the drop in percentages and margins in relation to the Storm specifically. They were SPECIFICALLY talking about how the STORM has affected RIM, not about overall drops as compared to the market... but then, I am not a financial expert .. and neither are any of YOU. BUT the people in the ARTICLE ARE.

    Unless I see your creds, your websites... your consultant listings... you are no better than someone who doesn't own a storm commenting on the storm's problems. It's that simple.

    Dontcha hate facts?
    02-16-09 09:13 PM
  15. jeffmvr's Avatar
    RIM makes phones. Not computers or media players. Just phones.

    They released this pile of crap and its no surprise their stock has fallen.

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    02-16-09 09:14 PM
  16. asmallchild's Avatar
    This is lame any refute comes back to you clinging to a sole article
    I'll help them out.

    Bloomberg.com: U.S.

    Bold to blame?
    02-16-09 09:15 PM
  17. jdoc77's Avatar
    This is lame any refute comes back to you clinging to a sole article...let me get to my goddamn pc I can't even watch family guy in peace

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    The best part of this is, 1) you are posting from a mobile device. 2) the argument against anyone who ever says anything about the Storm's problems is that they are a) a troll or b) Don't have experience with the device.

    In other words:

    Article 1
    Everyone else: 0

    Facts... god I hate facts.
    02-16-09 09:16 PM
  18. asmallchild's Avatar
    HTC

    -210/-36% over past 6 mo. Cell phones to blame?
    02-16-09 09:16 PM
  19. xxxxpradaxxxx's Avatar
    To quote a Marilyn Manson Song:

    "You Can't See the Forest For Its Trees"

    HTC -210/-36% over past 6 mo. ASMALLCHILD to blame?
    02-16-09 09:16 PM
  20. infamyx's Avatar
    RIM raises Q4 subscriber growth outlook - Telecompaper

    We can play this game all day and night, just accept it as much as you hate the storm its not killing rim in one of the worst economies you can be in

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    02-16-09 09:17 PM
  21. asmallchild's Avatar
    UnderArmour

    -17/-52% over past 6 mo. Tight fitting athletic garments to blame? WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!
    02-16-09 09:18 PM
  22. xxxxpradaxxxx's Avatar
    RIM raises Q4 subscriber growth outlook - Telecompaper

    We can play this game all day and night, just accept it as much as you hate the storm its not killing rim in one of the worst economies you can be in

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    HaHa

    Where's the Koolaid!

    I want some too!
    02-16-09 09:18 PM
  23. infamyx's Avatar
    Oh I guess that makes even 1-1?

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    02-16-09 09:19 PM
  24. asmallchild's Avatar
    Johnson&Johnson

    -14/-20%. Defective baby powder to blame?
    02-16-09 09:20 PM
  25. xxxxpradaxxxx's Avatar
    Oh I guess that makes even 1-1?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Sorry I didn't read that-

    You didn't read mine and turned a deaf ear, Why Can't I?
    02-16-09 09:20 PM
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