02-17-09 05:27 PM
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  1. sbudaj's Avatar
    "Flash 10, which will support all desktop Flash sites and applications, will be available for Windows Mobile, Symbian Series 60, Android and Palm's new WebOS, Muraka said. But the popular RIM BlackBerry and Apple iPhone platforms stayed off the list, though Adobe chief executive Shantanu Narayen said two weeks ago that Adobe was "collaborating" with Apple. "

    Palm Pre to Receive Flash Support in 2009 - News and Analysis by PC Magazine
    02-17-09 10:21 AM
  2. insanebinky's Avatar
    wowwwww that sucks....o well.....but doesnt bolt and opera and all those third party browsers support it anyway?
    02-17-09 10:24 AM
  3. blingdogg's Avatar
    why rim whyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
    02-17-09 10:44 AM
  4. cvondra's Avatar
    That is the worst news I have heard all day...cept for the signing of the Spendalicious Bill.
    02-17-09 10:48 AM
  5. jamesandyori's Avatar
    wowwwww that sucks....o well.....but doesnt bolt and opera and all those third party browsers support it anyway?
    Yes, for every other device except BBs.
    02-17-09 10:58 AM
  6. Chuft's Avatar
    it seems like BB would be in a rush to get their phones Flash capable.
    02-17-09 11:09 AM
  7. podawk's Avatar
    it seems like BB would be in a rush to get their phones Flash capable.
    I'm sure they are but their OS is proprietary and was made to be secure not to mention the fundamental programming differences with java. This means many changes would need to be made to flash and / or the OS.

    The other issue is adobe. Flash is their bread and butter in terms of licensing. I don't see them putting a ton of effort in modding flash unless RIM pays a good price.
    02-17-09 11:14 AM
  8. bigman2's Avatar
    I'm sure they are but their OS is proprietary and was made to be secure not to mention the fundamental programming differences with java. This means many changes would need to be made to flash and / or the OS.
    Last I checked, Android was Java based as well. Though I would bet Google is footing the bill for the Android port. Something RIM doesn't have the capitol to do.

    The other issue is adobe. Flash is their bread and butter in terms of licensing. I don't see them putting a ton of effort in modding flash unless RIM pays a good price.
    Flash is nothing compared to things like Photoshop and Acrobat for Adobe. Adobe got Flash as part of the deal when they bought Macromedia a few years back.
    02-17-09 11:57 AM
  9. BlackberryStorm98's Avatar
    They'll have to get it eventually, I think they'll change their mind when every other major competitor has it on their phones. Unfortunately we have to wait until then.....

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    02-17-09 12:05 PM
  10. Bert336's Avatar
    can i load WM6 on my Storm? :P

    jk jk
    02-17-09 12:20 PM
  11. lyoko37's Avatar
    Quick everyone write to your RIM State Reps and demand they create API to support Flash!
    02-17-09 12:21 PM
  12. sbank's Avatar
    Not to sound like a troll, but why do people care? I cannot see any reason why this is a deal breaker.

    Um yeah, so I can browse a handful of poorly written websites? meh.
    02-17-09 12:21 PM
  13. bigman2's Avatar
    I think once it happens that Flash arrives on mobile platforms, people will hopefully start to realize that no matter how "smart" smartphones tend to be, they're not desktop systems, or even laptops. Ideally, Flash would start disappearing from the rest of the web, and not just to be replaced by Silverlight or JavaFX.
    02-17-09 12:22 PM
  14. lyoko37's Avatar
    Not to sound like a troll, but why do people care? I cannot see any reason why this is a deal breaker.

    Um yeah, so I can browse a handful of poorly written websites? meh.
    Would be nice to have for Hulu.com and stuff. But I think Flash itself is a very sluggish program / code.
    02-17-09 12:22 PM
  15. anon(96573)'s Avatar
    RIM's major contract is with Verizon

    Verizon tries to do what ever they can to save bandwidth

    It wouldn't surprise me if Verizon told RIM no flash
    02-17-09 12:42 PM
  16. TerribL T 913's Avatar
    Not to sound like a troll, but why do people care? I cannot see any reason why this is a deal breaker.

    Um yeah, so I can browse a handful of poorly written websites? meh.

    Nfl.com videos would be great to have but they require flash

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    02-17-09 12:51 PM
  17. badmonkey#WN's Avatar
    Flash is nothing compared to things like Photoshop and Acrobat for Adobe. Adobe got Flash as part of the deal when they bought Macromedia a few years back.
    True on an individual basis, but think about the sheer number of machines that run Flash compared to those that run Photoshop...

    Back on topic... Nowhere does this announcement say that Flash is NEVER coming to the BB platform. It's just absent from this announcement. I don't know if it is or isn't coming, but this announcement isn't proof one way or the other.
    02-17-09 01:05 PM
  18. lyoko37's Avatar
    True on an individual basis, but think about the sheer number of machines that run Flash compared to those that run Photoshop...

    Back on topic... Nowhere does this announcement say that Flash is NEVER coming to the BB platform. It's just absent from this announcement. I don't know if it is or isn't coming, but this announcement isn't proof one way or the other.
    well if what DMG said is true VZW would not want them to announce it because it would give them a bad name / rep.
    02-17-09 01:08 PM
  19. 1magine's Avatar
    An enourmgigantamassive amount of streaming content and better quality video. IE. MLB.com streams in Flash. So you could watch games in real time while out shopping with the wife. HULU streams in flash, so you can catch up on the episode of 24 you missed last night while commuting on the train. NPR streams in Flash. So you can listen to the All Things Considered in the Hudson Valley, where its tough to find a Public Radio Station. Streaming podcasts.....
    02-17-09 01:08 PM
  20. tabris's Avatar
    maybe its a little bit crazy but would be cool if someone could port gnash to java then we dont need adobe flash^^

    it would be so much cooler if the blackberry os wouldnt been coded in java and could handle C or C++ compiled programms like the i phone(dont like the iphone) then all the cool open source stuff like gnash could be portet.
    02-17-09 01:23 PM
  21. OME6A's Avatar
    Not to sound like a troll, but why do people care? I cannot see any reason why this is a deal breaker.

    Um yeah, so I can browse a handful of poorly written websites? meh.
    I'll be the one to say it: porn.
    02-17-09 01:25 PM
  22. jpgrbdylan's Avatar
    I don't see this being a huge deal either unless you're OME6A and gotta have your porn on the go lol.
    02-17-09 01:40 PM
  23. tabris's Avatar
    for me its a huge deal.
    my old LG viewty had flash lite and the games that did run on flash whre so cool. i loved bowman.
    all the streaming videos would be playable and full last.fm inklusive musik playing support would maybe possible.
    02-17-09 01:51 PM
  24. MaxL's Avatar
    Looks like I am handing this device i Early for a Tegra enabled device with Andorid. People call the apple a dumbphone but this is just as dumb but in other areas.

    .Only one sound channel (Even my Gameboy had 2 channels) (Hinders the ability of many applications)
    .No WiFi (Not that this mattered but its pretty standered)
    .No Flash or Flash Lite (iphone is going to get it leaving BB's the odd ones out)
    .Still using Java (Very outdated, useless code that even Flash Actionscript 3 can outdo.)

    Now I don't want to rant on but the storm is slowly going downfast as I view Engadget over all these new and wonderful phones.

    Well I always have my N95 8GB to go back to which has Flash Lite, NES/GBA emulator and running Quake 2. Things the Storm will never achieve due to the fact it uses java
    Last edited by MaxL; 02-17-09 at 02:35 PM.
    02-17-09 02:31 PM
  25. LikeWebOS's Avatar
    Looks like I am handing this device i Early for a Tegra enabled device with Andorid. People call the apple a dumbphone but this is just as dumb but in other areas.

    .Only one sound channel (Even my Gameboy had 2 channels) (Hinders the ability of many applications)
    .No WiFi (Not that this mattered but its pretty standered)
    .No Flash or Flash Lite (iphone is going to get it leaving BB's the odd ones out)
    .Still using Java (Very outdated, useless code that even Flash Actionscript 3 can outdo.)

    Now I don't want to rant on but the storm is slowly going downfast as I view Engadget over all these new and wonderful phones.

    Well I always have my N95 8GB to go back to which has Flash Lite, NES/GBA emulator and running Quake 2. Things the Storm will never achieve due to the fact it uses java

    Yea, those are all valid points, but lets say the next Blackberry to be offered on Verizon includes all those features people will just out right buy it if they want it that bad.
    02-17-09 02:47 PM
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