- I wonder if that is only happening to a few people. It hasn't froze or crashed for me yet. From reading the thread, it sounds like it is VERY stable.02-11-09 10:32 AMLike 0
- We all talk about how the carrier should have waited or RIM should have waited, but isn't this just the standard these days? I mean, everything seems to be released in beta first with lots of 'fixes', patches or updates released later. I mean, Gmail is still in beta and I've been using it for quite a long time now!
I just jumped over from a Bold and have noticed the same thing. When I first got my Bold, the OS wasn't that great. I've since loaded so many 'leaked' OS's on it I can't even count. Sometimes I was loading more than two a week! The Bold is finally good and the 'leaked' OS's seem to have calmed down over in that forum.
I'm suspecting we're all going through the same thing with the Storm. I'm running a hybrid of .90 and .99 (.90 for the radio) on at&t and anxiously awaiting the next 'leak'.02-11-09 10:37 AMLike 0 - It's overly simple in the fact that it only considers the finished product from a hindsight perspective. It doesn't take into account the many many complexities involved in designing a device like the Storm. I went over them in a bit greater detail over in the rants and raves subforum on the graphics discussion. It's too early for me to go get a link, so maybe later, or maybe some kind soul will do it for us.02-11-09 10:38 AMLike 0
- this may be getting off topic, but this has been discussed in multiple threads in the Rants & Raves sub-forum. Some feel RIM/VZW would be damned if they did not release when promised as well. In other words, they'd still be pilloried by many if they delayed the release. The best quote, and I wish I could remember who said it to give proper credit, was that it would of been better if the initial release was labeled as an early user test model (I am blanking on the official term) for those who don't mind using those types of devices, then release it 3-6 months later. Remember, we are only approaching the 3 month mark since release in another week or so.02-11-09 10:43 AMLike 0
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I understand what you're saying, and I agree with it in principle. Unfortunately the various realities of the world mean that if anything, we're going to see phones pushed out the door even earlier. It's going to take massive consumer outcry to reverse this trend, and most people are of the opinion Snork expressed, if not more so.02-11-09 10:45 AMLike 0 -
Does it mean, no more issues? Does it mean a faster OS? Does it mean flick scrolling? Does it mean other new features?
Just a little clarification is all....02-11-09 10:58 AMLike 0 - And that ignores various market considerations. If they held it back, the market would have passed them by, it's as simple as that. They also faced the prospect of an ever souring economy world wide.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with it in principle. Unfortunately the various realities of the world mean that if anything, we're going to see phones pushed out the door even earlier. It's going to take massive consumer outcry to reverse this trend, and most people are of the opinion Snork expressed, if not more so.02-11-09 10:58 AMLike 0 - Well, what build does this "gold code" begin with? What does this "gold code" mean?
Just a little clarification is all....
My interpretation is that the comment was made to let us know whenever we get it we will be happy with it.
I don't believe you will get specific answers due to their NDALast edited by neolantis; 02-11-09 at 11:36 AM.
02-11-09 11:28 AMLike 0 - Not market share, just the market in general. If they delayed the phone, they would have been lambasted by the mobile press for delaying the phone and people would have moved on to some other phone. So it's kind of a d@mned if you do, d@mned if you don't for RIM. It would have been different if they had managed to keep a complete lid on all info about the Storm until they started running ads to let people know it's coming. Then they could have taken their time, really perfected the device, and just dropped a real gem onto the mobile world seemingly from out of nowhere. But that didn't happen. People here and on HoFo probably knew more about the Storm when it launched than the majority of the staff for the respective carriers.02-11-09 11:29 AMLike 0
- The Hybrid hasn't crashed once for me. The third build is excellent. Everyone was told that the 2nd build (the one without the camera working) was in "alpha" stage and to be wary.02-11-09 12:07 PMLike 0
- hybrid crashed from me a few times already,did last batt pull a few hours ago and have been fine since.02-11-09 09:16 PMLike 0
- i assume though that whatever build is coming from rim and verizon its still gonna be the same user interface were with now,right? i mean the home screen all the menu pages and all that are mostly gonna be the same i assume.i would really like to see rim take this os a step further and get it closer to the fluid movement of the iphone. i like my storm alot but wouldnt mind seeing it be a little more graphically pleasing.one gripe-switching between portrait and landscape.would like to see the image roll with the spin to landscape instead of just switching quick when it hits a certain point.ya know its kinna choppy that way.fluidity is nicer.just a thought and hope i guess. if anything i really like about the iphone is its view and touch when you play with it.i dont want a iphone ,really like my storm just again hope that rim could make a best of both worlds type . i mean the storm really was designed so i thought to not be a complete business phone that traditional blackberry owners know.this was supposed to be different so why not go full bore? the technology is there right? again just a thought.02-11-09 09:30 PMLike 0
- also more memory for apps.again technology is there,puts a gig or two for dedicated apps or put more,whatever.02-11-09 09:36 PMLike 0
- i assume though that whatever build is coming from rim and verizon its still gonna be the same user interface were with now,right? i mean the home screen all the menu pages and all that are mostly gonna be the same i assume.i would really like to see rim take this os a step further and get it closer to the fluid movement of the iphone. i like my storm alot but wouldnt mind seeing it be a little more graphically pleasing.one gripe-switching between portrait and landscape.would like to see the image roll with the spin to landscape instead of just switching quick when it hits a certain point.ya know its kinna choppy that way.fluidity is nicer.just a thought and hope i guess. if anything i really like about the iphone is its view and touch when you play with it.i dont want a iphone ,really like my storm just again hope that rim could make a best of both worlds type . i mean the storm really was designed so i thought to not be a complete business phone that traditional blackberry owners know.this was supposed to be different so why not go full bore? the technology is there right? again just a thought.
I think the main thrust for this official release is addressing the performance issues that existed with .65 and .75. They want to get the device performing on a level that most people could agree is reasonable. It still probably won't please everyone, but MOST people should be pretty happy with the improved performance.
Once they get the next official release out the door for all carriers, they will MAYBE start focusing a bit more on new features.02-11-09 10:18 PMLike 0 - cool,i hear ya,i dont expect a complete overhaul on this next release ,would be nice but in time it will come around both hardware and software wise.i mean honestly im kinna excited to see a version 2 storm if and when it comes around.02-11-09 11:06 PMLike 0
- This thread has really gone off the deep end.
It started with a simple question about whether the "gold code" to which CX referred was being used in .1xx OS, etc.. or if anyone knew anything about it and it turned into a philosophical debate and a debate about market share.
How the heck did that happen?02-12-09 08:15 AMLike 0 - This thread has really gone off the deep end.
It started with a simple question about whether the "gold code" to which CX referred was being used in .1xx OS, etc.. or if anyone knew anything about it and it turned into a philosophical debate and a debate about market share.
How the heck did that happen?
To bring it back on topic - what is gold code. Some members have said its code which has been signed off as ready to be delivered to a prod environment. Just wondering if this is definitely the case.
Would bee good if CX could confirm.02-12-09 08:19 AMLike 0 -
there are other consumers who might have even left VZW for a better phone, or just waited since an even better phone was only a few months away. there really is a 'sweet spot'. it sucks for those users who have no tolerance of bugs and glitches, but if they didn't release it yet, people like myself would have just given up and started looking for the next best thing.02-12-09 08:24 AMLike 0 - Crucial_XtremeRetired ModeratorWHOA!! Stop the presses! I did not say anything about me using the "Gold Code". I only said they(Dev Team) were close. And for those that don't know, the Gold Code is considered the finished product. In this case it would be considered the build that's basically bug free and while they will always continue to have revisions, the code is ready to go and good enough for anyone in all situations. People need to relax when it comes to these builds, and please don't put words in my mouth, because I never said I was running anything. And surely didn't say the Gold Code, which btw is a term used internally.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com02-12-09 10:30 AMLike 0 - WHOA!! Stop the presses! I did not say anything about me using the "Gold Code". I only said they(Dev Team) were close. And for those that don't know, the Gold Code is considered the finished product. In this case it would be considered the build that's basically bug free and while they will always continue to have revisions, the code is ready to go and good enough for anyone in all situations. People need to relax when it comes to these builds, and please don't put words in my mouth, because I never said I was running anything. And surely didn't say the Gold Code, which btw is a term used internally.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
In any case, thanks for clearing that up.
Cheers.02-12-09 11:03 AMLike 0 -
- Crucial_XtremeRetired ModeratorI dont think anyone ever insinuated that you have used gold colde. Speaking for myself, I was just wanting clarification on what you meant by gold colde as you had made a reference to that term in another thread. Also, I wasnt hyped up over the potential of a new build. As I mentioned earlier, Im more interested from a programming perspective.
In any case, thanks for clearing that up.
Cheers.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com02-12-09 11:30 AMLike 0 - This thread has really gone off the deep end.
It started with a simple question about whether the "gold code" to which CX referred was being used in .1xx OS, etc.. or if anyone knew anything about it and it turned into a philosophical debate and a debate about market share.
How the heck did that happen?02-12-09 02:29 PMLike 0 - Little did I know I had a wife over in Amsterdam.
So let's see... Yes, dear. Whatever you say, dear. I'll go have myself taken out back and beaten, dear. Would you like my liver or spleen as a trophy, dear?
We now return you to the wife I didn't know I had berating me as is her sacred marital right.
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