I SET IT UP! BlackBerry Storm Wiki ---> To get consice accurate and FAST INFO!!!
- Great....now there will be two resources for me to rummage through.......I need a paid assistant to go through and pick out the important posts12-10-08 12:44 PMLike 0
- I commend the effort and idea, but...
That is where a WIKI fails...
You have no control of what is added, who adds it, or how accurate it is.
Example... -> blackberrystorm.wikidot.com/set-up-gmail-imap was added to the Wiki... It looks suspiciously like what I posted on Hofo for setting up Gmail via IMAP on v4.5 devices (except I didnt say anything about the delivery conf)
But its not accurate for the storm.
instead -> blackberryforums.com/general-9500-series-discussion-storm/161974-gmail-syncing.html#post1186280 is accurate for the Storm.
The difference.. in step 5 on the Wiki says "leave the password blank"... if you do that on the Storm, it doesn't work. It just loops asking for email address and password. You have to fill in a bogus password on the storm to go by.
There are other subtle differences after step 5 as well that have an impact.
And following what is accurate for the Gmail IMAP setup on the storm, the Confirm Delivery = YES vs no does not have an impact for me (mine is set yet)
"You have no control of what is added, who adds it, or how accurate it is."
Also, I just don't get your logic. You say the wiki is wrong but what makes you think all forum posts are going to be right? They are not, there is just as much incorrect information on the forum as there is on a wiki. The wiki makes finding answers to common questions easier. What kind of control do you have in the forum? Users can reply with the correct information, but the same can be said of a wiki.12-10-08 04:19 PMLike 0 - well mark, typically in a post if wrong information is posted it may be corrected several entries down or in some cases not for 10 or 15 pages later. who has time to read that much. on the wiki, the mistake is corrected and its good to go! BTW. it maybe true that someone grabbed those setup instructions from a post you made earlier, but they are still accurate if you are using the BIS website and leave the password blank.
i mean are you serious about wiki's? most highly regarded education institutions use wikis and if you tell me you have NEVER used wikipedia for anything then you are a liar!Last edited by ddarvish; 12-10-08 at 05:03 PM.
12-10-08 05:00 PMLike 0 - Wikipedia is another good example. Do you think all the info there is bogus? Maybe a giant forum with threads for each topic would be better?12-10-08 07:07 PMLike 0
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"You have no control of what is added, who adds it, or how accurate it is."
Also, I just don't get your logic. You say the wiki is wrong but what makes you think all forum posts are going to be right? They are not, there is just as much incorrect information on the forum as there is on a wiki.
In a forum, people can jump in and say, hey that doesn't work the way you said or "that is not correct," and then discuss why it doesn't work, what happens, etc and arrive at the correct information. And everyone can see the entire discussion and thought process unfold.
And they have no way to "speak up" and tell someone, or discuss what they find doesn't work..
Maybe the did a step wrong because they didn't understand, or maybe the steps are not correct... They wont know. This particular wiki doesn't have any references or sources cited.
This wiki appears to be down (I keep getting "500 - Internal Server Error"), so I can't see if there is a "Feed Back" link that at least someone could report something doesn't work...
Originally Posted by ddarvishwell mark, typically in a post if wrong information is posted it may be corrected several entries down or in some cases not for 10 or 15 pages later. who has time to read that much. on the wiki, the mistake is corrected and its good to go!
Reading 10 or 15 "pages" later in a forum, they just might actually LEARN not only how something is done, but WHY its done which will help them more in the long run.
Originally Posted by ddarvishBTW. it maybe true that someone grabbed those setup instructions from a post you made earlier, but they are still accurate if you are using the BIS website and leave the password blank.
And the instructions do NOT mention visiting the BIS web site from a computer in any way... they talk about working on the BB itself. So how are they "still accurate" for the Storm?
If there is going to be some main "editor" or "moderator" of the Wiki that is going to make sure the information is accurate and valid, then heck yeah, It will be much more useful.
Originally Posted by kazinvanWikipedia is another good example. Do you think all the info there is bogus? Maybe a giant forum with threads for each topic would be better?
Yup... SOURCES... where did the information on that page come from... links to the information that provided the basis and foundation for the information on that Wiki page to help provide a context and some sort of proof of the validity of the information.
Wikipedia does have some oversite and review of their information. Substandard or disputed information can/will be removed.
Its cool. I've said MY opinion. I SAID(in my first post in this thread) I commend your effort...
Good luck your wiki...12-10-08 09:09 PMLike 0 - well mark, typically in a post if wrong information is posted it may be corrected several entries down or in some cases not for 10 or 15 pages later. who has time to read that much. on the wiki, the mistake is corrected and its good to go! BTW. it maybe true that someone grabbed those setup instructions from a post you made earlier, but they are still accurate if you are using the BIS website and leave the password blank.
i mean are you serious about wiki's? most highly regarded education institutions use wikis and if you tell me you have NEVER used wikipedia for anything then you are a liar!12-10-08 09:21 PMLike 0 - Well for what it is worth I commend you on putting it up. I usually do not take anything on face value. When I use wiki sites I use them as a template for something and know what to ask or how to ask in forums like this. So I think it is just as good of an idea as this forum is. And think they both can be used hand in hand for information to help us all out. Newbies and Experts.12-14-08 05:21 AMLike 0
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com12-14-08 07:17 AMLike 0 -
Whether or not if it is true or not that is something that should never be expressed out loud.
There is a lot of mean comments on here and I don't think mods should contribute to the hostility.
My 2 cents
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com12-14-08 10:30 AMLike 0 - I think that is a terrible attitude.
Whether or not if it is true or not that is something that should never be expressed out loud.
There is a lot of mean comments on here and I don't think mods should contribute to the hostility.
My 2 cents
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com12-15-08 01:20 AMLike 0 - i spend the whole day trying to figure out how to convert vids to bb format, being that i am not computer savvy, and all i had to do was go to storm wiki and i found what i needed..... thank u heaps12-15-08 03:16 AMLike 0
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Yes! thanks. the wiki has been updated a lot recently and has pretty current info, so it is always a great way to get directly at something without searching through 50 page threads!03-03-09 08:30 PMLike 0
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