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Hey guys, newcomer, but long time reader, and long time BB owner. Ever since i've had a certan app installed on my phone (not going to give a free plug
) ..I've noticed that i'm losing between 12% - 18% on a batt. pull/reset. That's CRAZY! So I'm on .113, but even when using .75 - and when app memory got below 15mb, i have a setting on my 3PA that automatically resets the phone ...after a day or so of realizing that i'm at 30 to 40 percent LESS batt life than usual...I've realized (by looking my log files) that i'm losing 12 to 18% of battery life on startup!
I've started doing resets when the phone is plugged into a wall charger, or usb port to charge, but even then...instead of losing 18%, i'm losing maybe 8% of battery....
It's nothing to flip out about, I just dont like the fact that if i'm at 30% batt life, which can last me about another 2 hours of a few calls, a handfull of texts, and some emails...if the phone goes "boom" and resets itself on me, or if I do a batt pull, that 30% battery will go to 12% when it reboots...that is really annoying to me, and to others I'm sure.
What are your opinions? Do you guys accept the fact this device is a powerful machine, running multiple applications in foreground and background, and understand that it would take 12 to 18% of battery life to restart this monster of a device and get it back to its normal desktop/runnning state?
Or do you think it's a little too much power being lost, regardless of what kind of device it is, even if it provides you sexual favors in your dreams, or in real life
04-06-09 08:25 PM - Joe, why not a free plug? Just kidding.
12-18% battery loss on a reboot seems excessive. I usually see between 2-4%.
Keep in mind that depending on how you have MeterBerry's options configured, there can be up to an hour difference between the last log entry and the "Startup" log entry that is logged after your phone reboots.
For example, if you have your log update rate set to 60 minutes, the following could happen:
1. Battery level is logged at say 1:00 PM.
2. You perform a reboot at 1:59 PM.
3. The phone will reboot, and when MeterBerry starts back up after the reboot it will create a new log entry that shows the difference between the current battery level and the level at the last log entry at 1:00 PM.
This difference includes the whole hour before you rebooted, not just the reboot.
You may have already realized this, but I just wanted to point it out.04-06-09 09:19 PM - No, there is something going on here and your app just brings it into focus. I've noticed it prior to buying MeterBerry.Joe, why not a free plug? Just kidding.
12-18% battery loss on a reboot seems excessive. I usually see between 2-4%.
Keep in mind that depending on how you have MeterBerry's options configured, there can be up to an hour difference between the last log entry and the "Startup" log entry that is logged after your phone reboots.
For example, if you have your log update rate set to 60 minutes, the following could happen:
1. Battery level is logged at say 1:00 PM.
2. You perform a reboot at 1:59 PM.
3. The phone will reboot, and when MeterBerry starts back up after the reboot it will create a new log entry that shows the difference between the current battery level and the level at the last log entry at 1:00 PM.
This difference includes the whole hour before you rebooted, not just the reboot.
You may have already realized this, but I just wanted to point it out.
My thoughts is that whatever in the OS that reads the battery life remaining isn't properly calibrated. Therefore it misreports what is actually remaining.. I think this because of people reporting batteries that barely last 4 hrs. Short of bad hardware or user error, that's simply not possible.04-06-09 09:32 PM - LOL. No it was nothing against your product, I just didnt know how the forum rules are in terms of mentioning a product. Because of the long post, I didnt want people to discredit the content of the post, and think I was just plugging away at your product...(which by the way, has been the most useful app for my storm so far, and I've downloaded and purchased a lot of them).Joe, why not a free plug? Just kidding.
12-18% battery loss on a reboot seems excessive. I usually see between 2-4%.
Keep in mind that depending on how you have MeterBerry's options configured, there can be up to an hour difference between the last log entry and the "Startup" log entry that is logged after your phone reboots.
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Anyway, Yes...i did take that into consideration...I originally had the log entries at 60 minutes, and I had forgotten the fact that 59 minutes went by with no entry, then on a reboot it deducted more battery, so there is 59 minutes of heavy use, coupled with the reboot battery usage, and you could get 18%...absolutely.
When i realized this I changed the log file to 15 minutes...only temporary because it's easier and "neater" in a sense, to view the battery usage by hour..but anyway, I set the log to 15 minutes, and I reboot right after a long entry posted...that way I have true batery count, vs...just a reboot and nothing else...and when I did that, i had a 12% decrease in battery. I was very vague in my first post saying 12-18% percent, because
A. I didnt think the developer was going to post, and give me a good scenario to discuss (like the 60 minute log app).
B. I didnt know if a lot of people had the application, let alone use the application as much as I do.
So my least loss was 12%, most was 18 or 19%, i dont remember.
I think your product is too good, which is what is driving me crazy and making me look at my batt. log files every 15 minutes (thats the plug of the day).
To the other poster regarding calibration...these devices and batteries do not have a "so called" memory effect, but they do have a calibration method internally....which means that sometimes the communication between battery and display is off, because of
A. reading sensors of battery levels have not updated when you last looked at your battery.
B. the calibration is off due to hot/cold weather/heavy usage while charging the battery.
The only way to truly re-calibrate the battery/phone is to have the phone die on you completely, keep it off, and charge it while off. Do not use the phone while charging...and when you turn it on, you should have the most up to date calibrated battery information being displayed.
I make it a point to do this often, if I know my phone is going to die on me, i pretty much do my best to kill it, to the point of it not even turning on, then i charge it.
I've had hours of Li-Ion conversations with battery developers, and no two answers are alike...but I do know that using the phone heavily while charging can and will give you false readings, misfires when it comes to the phone getting battery info, then displaying it on the screen/OS for the user to see.04-06-09 09:59 PM - Just to throw another variable into the mix, I know for a fact that different Storms use juice at different rates. On my first Storm, the power usage was so bad that I could only keep a charge for about 6-7 hrs RESTING IN MY HOLSTER with very little usage while I was at work... not using the phone. I would turn it on around 6:30 in the morning and by 3:30 pm it would turn off the radio and die.
I had a little "accident" with my phone (fell in the pool with it in my pocket) so I got a new or refurb one from the insurance... I think it may have been a refurb but I couldn't really tell.
Well the new one holds a charge I would say about 3-5x better than the first one, so if different phones use juice at different rates, that would throw everything discussed here into another light would it not? Tell me if Im wrong...
Not trying to discount anyone's comments on here, just adding another thought to the conversation by saying that my old phone prolly used more juice during a battery pull than my present one. I can get about two full days off of one charge.
I just did a test and my battery life went from 75% to 70% using the QuickPull app just now. So mine only used up 5% of it's charge. BTW this thread is really interesting.04-07-09 08:31 PM
