- Exactly that's why phones without a removable battery are a no go for me. Also I'm not willing to be without my phone for a week just because the battery has gone down.09-15-14 08:57 PMLike 0
- No replaceable battery means no go for me.
The replaceable battery of the Galaxy S and Note models of Samsung is the reason I migrated from ios the other year. And the reason why I went back to BlackBerry for a secondary (work) phone the other month.
No range anxiety wherever I go with both my Note 3 and Q10.
Posted via CB1009-16-14 01:41 AMLike 3 - No replaceable battery means no go for me.
The replaceable battery of the Galaxy S and Note models of Samsung is the reason I migrated from ios the other year. And the reason why I went back to BlackBerry for a secondary (work) phone the other month.
No range anxiety wherever I go with both my Note 3 and Q10.
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Rockin the Q09-16-14 04:05 PMLike 0 - The Classic with fixed battery? this could be a deal breaker for many, i still have several 9900's in service as they have been reliable and have removable battery, also the keyboard / screen is easy to replace no need to send away for repair,
the Classic will solve the missing Track pad and function keys, will the keyboard equal
the 9900 ? but non removable battery will be a mistake if done to save costs,
the Classic is intended to encourage 9900 owners to switch to BB10
why if certain features are missing.hlg8888 likes this.09-16-14 07:25 PMLike 1 - The Classic with fixed battery? this could be a deal breaker for many, i still have several 9900's in service as they have been reliable and have removable battery, also the keyboard / screen is easy to replace no need to send away for repair,
the Classic will solve the missing Track pad and function keys, will the keyboard equal
the 9900 ? but non removable battery will be a mistake if done to save costs,
the Classic is intended to encourage 9900 owners to switch to BB10
why if certain features are missing.09-16-14 08:58 PMLike 5 - I don't mind if battery is fixed as long as it will last through a day without plugging it in short periods of time.
Could be for aesthetic /technical/engineering design that they're having it fix battery.
Could be for sales. This will make people upgrade than just buy a battery especially those people who don't have time to wait for the phone to be repaired or replaced by technician.
So instead of swapping batteries you'll have to use a powerbank or have those battery phone cases for extended battery life. I have never had to swap batteries as the q10 has enough battery life for me to last from 8am - 11pm. But I think mustbe very inconvenient for those who travel for few days and rely on extra battery.
via Q10hlg8888 likes this.09-16-14 11:17 PMLike 1 - I don't mind if battery is fixed as long as it will last through a day without plugging it in short periods of time.
Could be for aesthetic /technical/engineering design that they're having it fix battery.
Could be for sales. This will make people upgrade than just buy a battery especially those people who don't have time to wait for the phone to be repaired or replaced by technician.
So instead of swapping batteries you'll have to use a powerbank or have those battery phone cases for extended battery life. I have never had to swap batteries as the q10 has enough battery life for me to last from 8am - 11pm. But I think mustbe very inconvenient for those who travel for few days and rely on extra battery.
via Q10
Personally for me this is a must have feature just like an SD card because I like to have my stuff organized (locally) and not havint to rely on the internet (don't trust the cloud). Another huge advantage is the ability to plan in advance if I know I have to attend a workshop for a few days while I ust pack in some extra batteries and chances are I never have to charge my phone there :-) so that means my Laptop can be plugged in all the time.
Companies will never provide the real reasons for not including a removable battery but personally I believe it is to force you to upgrade every two years and to save costs. As a matter of fact I've just seen a video on how to replace the battery on an Iphone it's really not that hard but still too much hazzle if you need to do it in a hurry or in a plane/train...hlg8888 likes this.09-16-14 11:27 PMLike 1 - I don't mind if battery is fixed as long as it will last through a day without plugging it in short periods of time.
Could be for aesthetic /technical/engineering design that they're having it fix battery.
Could be for sales. This will make people upgrade than just buy a battery especially those people who don't have time to wait for the phone to be repaired or replaced by technician.
So instead of swapping batteries you'll have to use a powerbank or have those battery phone cases for extended battery life. I have never had to swap batteries as the q10 has enough battery life for me to last from 8am - 11pm. But I think mustbe very inconvenient for those who travel for few days and rely on extra battery.
via Q10
We want phones that keep up with us, that's there for us every step of the way.
Rockin the Q09-17-14 12:56 AMLike 0 - If Classic doesn't have a replaceable battery I will probably not buy it. I was all hyped until I read this. This a very bad decision. I really hope it is not a final decision.09-17-14 01:02 AMLike 3
- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesUser serviceable batteries are great, but not having one isn't a deal breaker in and of itself for me anymore.
In fact, I'd rather have the occasionally used power case to top off than an extra battery that forces me to reboot.09-17-14 01:05 AMLike 0 - 09-17-14 04:09 AMLike 0
- Well, you saw the battery of the Classic on the BBM channel :
Attachment 298091It seems harder to change the keyboard of a Q10 than the battery of a Classic if faulty... It's 4 screws away on an iPhone 4 by the way... and to keep the phone running when you are always moving, a simple external charger pack seems easier again. No switch off/open/switch battery/close/switch on, just... plug in
Posted via Q10RRhlg8888 likes this.09-17-14 06:37 AMLike 1 - 09-17-14 06:47 AMLike 0
- ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorI think that you and a majority of people that share this sentiment, have a pretty routine day/life. It doesn't matter how beautiful, powerful, or productive your phone is it ends up dead. That's the point we are making here. We are emphasizing the "just in case". We don't want to be huddled around outlets. We want seamless and effortless continuity with how our time is spent.
We want phones that keep up with us, that's there for us every step of the way.
Rockin the Q
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Posted via Q10RR09-17-14 07:59 PMLike 0 - I find having to swap out the battery annoying due to the long time it takes to reboot and then reindex right after a reboot. Now I carry a portable USB charging battery so if I run low, I can quickly plug it in. (This is similar to the Z10 battery bundle, just the battery in my portable charger is non-removable). I still carry around an extra Z10 battery for those days where I really need a long charge. (I also have a spare because I had to swap out the battery because my original battery was not holding the original full capacity)
So all in all, I don't like the fact that I can't replace the battery easily, but with the huge battery, and the proliferation of portable battery chargers, it shouldn't be too much of an issue in the future.09-17-14 08:02 PMLike 0 - You're talking about an external battery "case" if you were to attach an external battery charger to the phone, it becomes more of a hindrance than anything. People are just too lazy to pull a 3$ battery out of their pocket and switch it. The swap takes seconds, and after the reboot, you have 100% to last you the day whereas an external charger will have to cling to the phone for the phones dear life.
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It's more ergonomic to just swap batteries and keep going though, granted. But I'm perfectly okay with the external battery method personally.
From a more ideological engineering standpoint however, removable batteries are a workaround to a problem that shouldn't exist - terrible battery life. In a perfect world, a sealed battery would not be a problem for anyone, perhaps with the exception of people who keep phones for unexpectedly long periods of time. Maybe one day...Tre Lawrence and NtotheK like this.09-17-14 08:32 PMLike 2 - I find having to swap out the battery annoying due to the long time it takes to reboot and then reindex right after a reboot. Now I carry a portable USB charging battery so if I run low, I can quickly plug it in. (This is similar to the Z10 battery bundle, just the battery in my portable charger is non-removable). I still carry around an extra Z10 battery for those days where I really need a long charge. (I also have a spare because I had to swap out the battery because my original battery was not holding the original full capacity)
So all in all, I don't like the fact that I can't replace the battery easily, but with the huge battery, and the proliferation of portable battery chargers, it shouldn't be too much of an issue in the future.
What annoys me is having something dangling from my usb port...That port will be damaged very soon.
Rockin the Qhlg8888 likes this.09-17-14 11:53 PMLike 1 -
And yep, my two month old Q10 has already started double typing...happily. Time too order a replacement keyboard.
Posted via CB1009-18-14 12:45 AMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired Moderator
That's three valid arguments right there.
Posted via CB10LazyEvul likes this.09-18-14 05:46 PMLike 1 - I don't know what everyone is complaining about. My Z30 doesn't have a removable battery and it's never been a problem. My battery life is exceptional for a power user like myself and with BB10 I've got no use for battery pulls
Posted via CB1009-18-14 05:48 PMLike 0
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