- I know they're not free, but LG and Samsung do not have the brand fatigue, irrelevance really of Blackberry. They don't have to including PKBs or the BB Experience Suite to sell their phones. That's because for every business man focused on productivity, there are thousands of media consumers who don't give a toss about productivity features. If they want to gain any in-roads with consumers, especially current Android users using a competing brand, releasing a handset which me-too specs at a premium cost considering their brand image is a poor move. I won't say that those features aren't a draw to some (the experience suite is a curiosity for me but I could care less about PKB and would likely never use it), but they represent a small percentage of users comparatively.09-19-15 01:18 PMLike 0
- Which is why I'm willing to pay $499 for the Nexus 6X and not $699. The specs required for the $699 commitment is universal to me, regardless of what brand it is. But it does have the 810v2, 3GB of memory, wireless charging, the USB-C port and the QHD display, which I feel is excellent for the probable cost.
Posted via CB1009-19-15 01:18 PMLike 0 - I know they're not free, but LG and Samsung do not have the brand fatigue, irrelevance really of Blackberry. They don't have to including PKBs or the BB Experience Suite to sell their phones. That's because for every business man focused on productivity, there are thousands of media consumers who don't give a toss about productivity features. If they want to gain any in-roads with consumers, especially current Android users using a competing brand, releasing a handset which me-too specs at a premium cost considering their brand image is a poor move. I won't say that those features aren't a draw to some (the experience suite is a curiosity for me but I could care less about PKB and would likely never use it), but they represent a small percentage of users comparatively.
http://www.xda-developers.com/blackb...-perfect-time/
PassportSQW100-4/10.3.2.2639AnimalPak200 likes this.09-19-15 01:20 PMLike 1 - But it does need one, and that's something that the marketing shouters do get correct. Part of a major device sale is brand trust. LG has it, Samsung has it, Google has it, Apple has it. For most would-be buyers of the Slider with no experience with BB10 handsets, this will be their first Blackberry. It's hard to pull the trigger blind to the tune of $700.09-19-15 01:20 PMLike 0
- All of the leaks that I have seen, including CAD specs from the factory, as well as accessories, and Google's own vocal and recent commitment to USB-C with the Chromebook Pixel, point heavily to it having USB-C.09-19-15 01:22 PMLike 0
- Check this article out. XDA seems pretty excited about it:
Blackberry Venice: Hardware Keyboard Done Right at the Perfect Time - XDA Forums
PassportSQW100-4/10.3.2.263909-19-15 01:26 PMLike 0 - Which is why I'm willing to pay $499 for the Nexus 6X and not $699. The specs required for the $699 commitment are universal to me, regardless of what brand it is. But it does have the 810v2, 3GB of memory, wireless charging, the USB-C port and the QHD display, which I feel is excellent for the probable cost.
They can't include everything you want with those added features and sell it for some unrealistic price so enjoy your generic nexus.
Posted via CB1009-19-15 01:32 PMLike 4 - Yeah they also lack a physical backlit capacitive sliding keyboard, the software for the capacitive functions, experience suite. Not exactly an apple to apples comparison you're making there.
They can't include everything you want with those added features and sell it for some unrealistic price.
Posted via CB10jmr1015 likes this.09-19-15 01:37 PMLike 1 - But it does need one, and that's something that the marketing shouters do get correct. Part of a major device sale is brand trust. LG has it, Samsung has it, Google has it, Apple has it. For most would-be buyers of the Slider with no experience with BB10 handsets, this will be their first Blackberry. It's hard to pull the trigger blind to the tune of $700.09-19-15 01:38 PMLike 0
- Which are niche features that the average Android user may find interesting but likely won't make inroads there. It's considered quaint or retro, not vital. If the goal of Venice is merely to remedy the app gap and stem the attrition of its existing user base, even get some of them back, then the $699 price is high but manageable and will probably be a success. If the goal is to convert large numbers of consumers at the same time, it's grossly overpriced when considering the brand position.
http://pocketnow.com/2015/09/18/blac...head-explosion
Posted via CB10DolemiteDONS and nonamenomore like this.09-19-15 01:40 PMLike 2 - Most people will be buying it on a 2 year contract at $199 anyway. Only a small minority will buy it outright. Abd the contract crowd will have a chance to play with it at their local <insert carrier store name here> store so they will know what they are buying before they buy it. It's won't be like a BB10 device where the carriers were hesitant and non-committal. This is basically going to be a Motorola Pure with a HW KB. If Blackberry screws this up they deserve to go bankrupt.09-19-15 01:42 PMLike 0
- But from the responses i've seen a lot of android folks seem to be fatigued by all the generic devices these days. Everything is just a rectangle with small changes. They're like cars today which all look the same and have no character.
http://pocketnow.com/2015/09/18/blac...head-explosion
Posted via CB1009-19-15 01:43 PMLike 0 - Does it die down with the latest Iphone releases? A phone enthusiast will find a way to make it happen if they want something bad enough. If you can have 18 yr olds walking around with iphones that they themselves and not their parents bought for them this certainly should be no different really09-19-15 01:43 PMLike 0
- Which are niche features that the average Android user may find interesting but likely won't make inroads there. It's considered quaint or retro, not vital. If the goal of Venice is merely to remedy the app gap and stem the attrition of its existing user base, even get some of them back, then the $699 price is high but manageable and will probably be a success. If the goal is to convert large numbers of consumers at the same time, it's grossly overpriced when considering the brand position.
I mean I use to take notes in class while using my Treo 650. Looking at the teacher speak and I'd rarely even look down as I was typing it all. It was glorious. I miss my Treo.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk09-19-15 01:44 PMLike 0 - If you think that Blackberry remotely carries the same social status as Apple, irrespective of if that status is rightly deserved, you're dreaming.
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09-19-15 01:44 PMLike 0 - I think there's people like me who get up using a phone with a physical keyboard and are eager to go back to one. And I think I there's other who have never tried one but will realize how much more convenient and efficient you will be with a physical keyboard.
I mean I use to take notes in class while using my Treo 650. Looking at the teacher speak and I'd rarely even look down as I was typing it all. It was glorious. I miss my Treo.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalksouthlander likes this.09-19-15 01:45 PMLike 1 -
Posted via CB10ayngling and DolemiteDONS like this.09-19-15 01:45 PMLike 2 - Which is why I'm willing to pay $499 for the Nexus 6X and not $699. The specs required for the $699 commitment are universal to me, regardless of what brand it is. But it does have the 810v2, 3GB of memory, wireless charging, the USB-C port and the QHD display, which I feel is excellent for the probable cost.09-19-15 02:13 PMLike 0
- Everyone wants the slider to be released with top end current specs but are unwilling to pay for it, it seems.09-19-15 02:14 PMLike 5
- Android sales are ahead of iPhone sales because of the sheer number of OEMs and the plethora of low-cost handsets pumped into emerging markets. But the flagship western market tells a very different story. For example, the Galaxy S5 had shipped approximately 16 million in its first quarter, 40% less than its predecessor. The iPhone 6? Nearly 75 million.jmr1015 likes this.09-19-15 02:22 PMLike 1
- If you mean the Nexus 6P, I'd be shocked. The higher price for the 6 killed their sales last time. $499 minimum, middle $500s is possible, $649 maximum. Any more and they're going to have a flop on their hands.
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