Providing privacy is still available! Who will do so?
- I think he needs a landline.
Here's a thought......instead of moaning and complaining about all the evil phone manufactures and app developers, the OP should quit their job and learn to code. Build themselves a phone and develop their own apps. Problem solved.
Till then they should.......take a deep breath and a prozac and either accept life as it is or get rid of any devices that cause them to moan and cry like a child because they can't have it their way.11-17-15 02:39 PMLike 5 - I think he needs a landline.
Here's a thought......instead of moaning and complaining about all the evil phone manufactures and app developers, the OP should quit their job and learn to code. Build themselves a phone and develop their own apps. Problem solved.
Till then they should.......take a deep breath and a prozac and either accept life as it is or get rid of any devices that cause them to moan and cry like a child because they can't have it their way.11-17-15 03:15 PMLike 2 -
there is also nothing in the original post to suggest the OP actually purchased ANY phone. Just a rant for the sake of moaning. I offered a solution and even an alternative.Last edited by Cynycl; 11-17-15 at 03:39 PM.
11-17-15 03:25 PMLike 0 - Exactly. And there's also absolutely nothing by the OP that can point to any specific area where BlackBerry is failing on security. The OP is a troll who keeps saying "Blackphone Blackphone Blackphone. Cyanogen Cyanogen Cyanogen". And when I called him out on both of those false claims, he just said "No" and gave no indication that he's older than 5 or has any idea what security or privacy actually is.kbz1960 likes this.11-17-15 03:38 PMLike 1
- Exactly. And there's also absolutely nothing by the OP that can point to any specific area where BlackBerry is failing on security. The OP is a troll who keeps saying "Blackphone Blackphone Blackphone. Cyanogen Cyanogen Cyanogen". And when I called him out on both of those false claims, he just said "No" and gave no indication that he's older than 5 or has any idea what security or privacy actually is.11-17-15 03:43 PMLike 0
- Ah...yes you can install Xposed without root access. And since you don't think you can, I'm guessing you're not a developer and are just going off some quick google search. For those of us who actually have experience with AOSP and kernal development, it's not that difficult.11-17-15 04:10 PMLike 0
- Well I can't wait to get his thoughts on all the other available consumer products he doesn't own.cdavisunlimited likes this.11-17-15 05:18 PMLike 1
- Ah...yes you can install Xposed without root access. And since you don't think you can, I'm guessing you're not a developer and are just going off some quick google search. For those of us who actually have experience with AOSP and kernal development, it's not that difficult.Al moon likes this.11-17-15 08:51 PMLike 1
- Ah...yes you can install Xposed without root access. And since you don't think you can, I'm guessing you're not a developer and are just going off some quick google search. For those of us who actually have experience with AOSP and kernal development, it's not that difficult.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android11-18-15 11:30 AMLike 0 - I'm calling BS on this post! The original post is full on inaccuracies or I dare say.... flat out lies!
I've never had an app fail to work if a permission is turned off. Why? Because Marshmallow spoofs the data. Prime Example: Facebook app (no not 3rd party FB apps). It has close to a dozen permissions. I turned them all off. It still works as expected.
You can go into Settings and force stop an app. Then if you want, you can disable Google built in apps if you want. I did it with Google +, Chrome, Google Play Games, Google Play Music, Hangouts, Messenger, and Photos.
Okay, you can disable Google Play Services too. But yes a lot of apps won't work cause it needs it. But then again, if you don't need GPS, then why buy an Android phone, BB10 will do the job as a smartphone.
XDA website has additional tool and help for setting up Android phones to increase privacy, but again at the cost of many apps not working. Again, see BB10.
I also installed the app called OS Monitor. It monitors incoming and outgoing data by app. Everything is as I expected.
I sideloaded AdGuard. No rooting required. NO ads, saves on data consumption too.
Finally on BB10.... there is no DTEK app available for BB10. How do we really know what or if apps on a BB10 device is not mining data? How can you tell? Yea, just relying on "reputation".gabbleratchet likes this.11-18-15 12:20 PMLike 1 - Ah...yes you can install Xposed without root access. And since you don't think you can, I'm guessing you're not a developer and are just going off some quick google search. For those of us who actually have experience with AOSP and kernal development, it's not that difficult.11-18-15 03:09 PMLike 0
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- I think you need to be more specific on how you define "privacy". Privacy and Security can be found at the Hardware level (and BlackBerry DID provide features at this level), it can be found at the kernel level (Again, BlackBerry DID provide features at his level), it can be found at the storage level (i.e. encrypted database/external SD cards which the Priv offers), Application level (this falls more inline with what you referenced about Marshmallow's app restrictions, and BlackBerry put DTEK in place for a short term notification level solution), data transmission level (i.e. encrypted texts/phone calls/ emails/ etc. Which Blackberry offers in conjunction with their BES suite, and many one off applications provide in the Play Store. On a side note, if hardware Man in the Middle attacks like stingray are introduced, your data will be available to governments or third parties no matter what you do), and User level security(this is more at the kernel level but I separate it out in my mind. And depending on who you listen to - like the Copperhead team - BlackBerry may not have done any work here outside of how the standard Linux kernel handles things).11-18-15 07:53 PMLike 0
- Well now I'm really confused as to what you're trying to accomplish other than trolling. You make statements like "Cyanogen has privacy" and then when I suggest installing Cyanogen's specific application security framework you say "no that's not secure", even though you just said it was secure when used with Cyanogen?
Android keeps their apps in their own sandbox. So an app may leak data if they did not secure their content providers (unless they intend to let other apps access to it). Or a hacker need to elevate permission to something with lots of permission, or outright root. Paring down on the kernel helps limit the exposure.
There's no computer program that is hack-proof, nor would the Priv be completely hack-proof (nor Blackphone, or CopperheadOS, etc etc). Security and usability is pretty much in a constant battle - Security can be heightened by only running what you need, keeping the code simple, and audit it, and have tools to help mitigate certain class of attacks. Usability can mean making it easy to share data between apps, making it easy to take videos of "the kid's hockey game and sending it to grandma". That means you'll need a lot more code, many of which needed to be written in C / C++, and generally the more code you've got, more likely there's a bug that can be exploited.
Privacy in this case could be making sure that apps don't go nuts with getting access to your sensitive data. Suppose the quick settings drop down doesn't have flashlight, most flashlight app need access to the camera to turn on the flash at the back. You'd have to accept that it has access to those permissions. What DTEK offers is a way to monitor which app is using what permission, and how often it uses it. If a flashlight app started using your camera like a thousand times in a week, maybe something's up with the app.
None of this is an absolute, nor are these feature free. In order for something like Google Now / Google maps to prompt you that your normal commute has traffic, it's not just getting that data from some site. It claims to use anonymized data to a) find out where you frequent, and b) how fast that traffic is moving. Whether you're comfortable with that, that's very much up to you.
From the sounds of it, OP is better off not using a phone at all.11-18-15 08:11 PMLike 0 -
I mean really??? If it could be done it would be all over the forums. So put up or shut up.11-18-15 10:26 PMLike 0 - Hey you guy's that are sticking up for cdavisunlimited, the guy made a claim that you could install Xposed on the Priv right now and I called BS. The guy refuses to answer how he claims it can be done and you guys are not calling him out on this? He should not be spreading FUD and needs to stop acting like a big shot.11-18-15 10:31 PMLike 0
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BlackBerry believes in encryption backdoors - believes it's good for business11-19-15 09:58 PMLike 2 - BlackBerry does not protect your privacy on the Priv. That was a marketing gimmick. DTEK tells you about all the privacy leaks after the fact. So What!! It does nothing to help you stop any of it.
I agree with the OP. The Priv is no better than any other android device when it comes to privacy. Sure, BlackBerry secured the boot sector and the kernel so rooting will be impossible but that's it. There are other OEM phones that have yet to be rooted also.
Sorry, but android isn't and never will be private. Google will always be sure to keep it that way. BlackBerry trying to sell what they claim to be a private version of android is nothing but fraud.11-19-15 10:03 PMLike 0 - Yet terrorist consider it over Blackberry listing Blackphone as most secure phone followed by iphone and oem with Android and zero mention of BB. We now know why.
BlackBerry believes in encryption backdoors - believes it's good for business11-20-15 07:43 AMLike 0
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