Plausible Way for a BB10 Slider to Get Google Services
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The issue is that, as much as we love BB10, the new skinned OS can't be so far from Android that Android users would be frustrated and start returning the devices to the store. It will have to be a compromise.
PassportSQW100-4/10.3.2.233908-17-15 12:44 PMLike 0 - I think as long as it passes compatibility testing, it should be permitted. But you make a valid point.
The issue is that, as much as we love BB10, the new skinned OS can't be so far from Android that Android users would be frustrated and start returning the devices to the store. It will have to be a compromise.
PassportSQW100-4/10.3.2.233908-17-15 12:47 PMLike 0 - For the small niche of us that enjoy using BB10 as an operating system I would welcome it if BB implemented their Android RT like Xiaomi did. This would clear the way for them to make a pure Google certified Android phone while still giving BB10 enthusiasts the option to stick with what they like.
In terms of a heavily customized BlackBerry android based device, I don't see it happening. I was under the impression that Google wanted the OEM's to scale back their UI's. I could be wrong about that though.08-17-15 01:05 PMLike 0 - A better example, like I already posted earlier, is SailfishOS. It has Android runtime as well and it's easy to install Google Play Services.08-17-15 01:20 PMLike 0
- I think the new BlackBerry 10 / Android will be authorized by Google and outside of the. Alliance. I.E. Google gets a truly secure service to sell which is BlackBerry 10 and BlackBerry gets better Android run time with Google Play.
The key here is Google is the one authorizing this and there is money involved one way or the other. This is not a "free" operating system but a hybrid expressly licenced by Google.
It may operate as well similar to BB10 does currently in enterprise with work and personal mode. Work will be BB10 with better runtime and some Google play services and personal will have unsecurable Android it all its glory.
Posted via CB1008-17-15 01:26 PMLike 0 - I think the new BlackBerry 10 / Android will be authorized by Google and outside of the. Alliance. I.E. Google gets a truly secure service to sell which is BlackBerry 10 and BlackBerry gets better Android run time with Google Play.
The key here is Google is the one authorizing this and there is money involved one way or the other. This is not a "free" operating system but a hybrid expressly licenced by Google.
It may operate as well similar to BB10 does currently in enterprise with work and personal mode. Work will be BB10 with better runtime and some Google play services and personal will have unsecurable Android it all its glory.
Posted via CB1008-17-15 01:58 PMLike 0 - I think the new BlackBerry 10 / Android will be authorized by Google and outside of the. Alliance. I.E. Google gets a truly secure service to sell which is BlackBerry 10 and BlackBerry gets better Android run time with Google Play.
The key here is Google is the one authorizing this and there is money involved one way or the other. This is not a "free" operating system but a hybrid expressly licenced by Google.
It may operate as well similar to BB10 does currently in enterprise with work and personal mode. Work will be BB10 with better runtime and some Google play services and personal will have unsecurable Android it all its glory.
Posted via CB1008-17-15 02:04 PMLike 0 - Xiaomi isn't just a runtime, its full-blown Android OS, Linux kernel, all the libraries..everything, they just changed the UI to an IOS like interface so its not a surprise that is passed the technical parts - compatibility testing. They want to come into Western markets but I think they will have to change some things for Google and to avoid being sued by Apple.Vistaus likes this.08-17-15 02:05 PMLike 1
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- Has anyone run the compatibility suite against Sailfish? I doubt it would pass. On a non-technical level Google is unlikely to give official sanction to Sailfish either because the UI differences would be seen as fragmentation and because Google has no control of OS development; what is compatible now may not be compatible in the future. BB10 sees this constantly: APK gets updated and app no longer works. That would a nightmare for Android devs and they wouldn't want it.08-17-15 03:50 PMLike 0
- The Android runtime in Sailfish is still there, even on the upcoming Jolla Tablet. And that tablet won best tablet award at MWC 2015, I doubt Google has missed that news. So if they wanted to go after Jolla, they would've already done so. Turns out Jolla is still moving forward with the Android runtime. And in the 1,5 years I have used SailfishOS (will switch to BB10 soon!) I have experienced no issues with apps not working anymore after an update. (but the same can be said for my mum's Passport) The Android runtime on Sailfish is only getting new API's with every new update and Jolla ensures that apps stay compatible.
Last edited by Vistaus; 08-17-15 at 04:13 PM.
08-17-15 04:01 PMLike 0 - The Android runtime in Sailfish is still there, even on the upcoming Jolla Tablet. And that tablet won best tablet award at MWC 2015, I doubt Google has missed that news. So if they wanted to go after Jolla, they would've already done so. Turns out Jolla is still moving forward with the Android runtime. And in the 1,5 years I have used SailfishOS (will switch to BB10 soon!) I have experienced no issues with apps not working anymore after an update. (but the same can be said for my mum's Passport)
But, Jolla can't ship a device with Google's apps because Jolla doesn't have a license to do it. Jolla would be bankrupted if it did that.
I don't think Google cares very much if a Jolla user decides to install GPS. Google did care enough to stop Cyanogen from releasing it's roms with GPS though.
Posted via CB1008-17-15 04:15 PMLike 0 - Emphasis intentionally placed on the key statement. BB10 with a run-time that is fully compatible with Play Services would be okay, as long as it does not ship with Play Services.LuvULongTime likes this.08-17-15 04:44 PMLike 1
- No disagreement. But for folks like us that like to tinker with our phones things become much easier as all apps will work once we install GPS ourselves. And it also allows BB to join the OHA and build a fully compatible Android device without having to give up the RT on BB10.08-17-15 09:09 PMLike 2
- I could argue that it's tremendously different. Not a single Android app would have to be ported any more, and the full suite of Google apps would be available without modifications to BlackBerry 10. We would actually, truly, have access to the full suite of Android apps. This is easier even for the end user that does not like to tinker. Just install the required APKs, which mind you can be officially downloaded, and that's it. It's not "out of the box ready" for the user, but it is leaps and bounds better than today.08-18-15 02:39 AMLike 0
- And for even easier install, a CB dev could probably hack all the required APK's into a single bar file for one-click all-APK installation.08-18-15 05:32 AMLike 0
- But if even only to dream about it, QNX afaik has the ability to do that. Skip the ideas of a skin, or a run time, or a dual-boot. It could run a full stock Android as a "guest os" in such a way that it all appears and works as one operating environment. A headless virtualization with a look and operate-ability that pleases Google would be interesting.08-18-15 07:11 AMLike 0
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