New Device - Slider with Curved display, coming 2015!
- So with the dual curved edges, would this phone need an edge-specific version of BB10 to fully utilize them?
Would loading leaks lacking this edge-software break the functionality?
Seems like another feature (1:1 screen, capacitive keyboard, tool belt/trackpad) added to another BB10 device that further fragments what developers could do to optimize for BB10.Thesmartmale likes this.03-03-15 02:29 PMLike 1 - If they balance it right, it won't be top heavy. Perfect example is the Pre3 I'm typing this on. It's not as big as that looks, but looking at the white one, the area that slides up is thinner and prob much lighter than the back half. I'd buy it if it's not too huge overall.anon(8063781) likes this.03-03-15 02:29 PMLike 1
- So with the dual curved edges, would this phone need an edge-specific version of BB10 to fully utilize them?
Would loading leaks lacking this edge-software break the functionality?
Seems like another feature (1:1 screen, capacitive keyboard, tool belt/trackpad) added to another BB10 device that further fragments what developers could do to optimize for BB10.
As for third-party apps, unless BlackBerry opens up APIs for any special edge functionality, they should function no differently than on a full-touch BB10 device - that's the way it works on the S6 edge.03-03-15 02:32 PMLike 0 -
I think that I made a mistake. The screen seems to move up, and not the KB to move down. KB is "glue" with the body.Last edited by AL8x B; 03-04-15 at 02:52 AM.
03-03-15 02:35 PMLike 0 - For a company that has a gigantic love affair with reusing 90+% of components in all their phones years after their expiry date it is frustrating that they won't put that philosophy towards a touch device using the same components as the slider. At the end of the day, I don't think Chen hates touch, he just thinks there is no chance to sell a meaningful number of devices considering who he is competing against. The best we can hope for is wildly successful slider sales that allow them to release a touch to market.
The other thing to consider is that while the all-touch only BB audience is going to be larger than the slider only audience, a slider (like the passport before it) is going to stand a better chance of attracting interest from outside the BB10 userbase which is crucial for a project's viability and in any case plenty of the current all-touch BB10 users would also consider this device too as long as the mechanism didn't add too much to the bulk of the device as they could mostly use it as just full-touch.03-03-15 02:36 PMLike 3 - The curve is definitely not that pronounced. Here's a front-side shot of the Galaxy S6 edge for reference:
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- DenverRalphyRetired Network ModSo with the dual curved edges, would this phone need an edge-specific version of BB10 to fully utilize them?
Would loading leaks lacking this edge-software break the functionality?
Seems like another feature (1:1 screen, capacitive keyboard, tool belt/trackpad) added to another BB10 device that further fragments what developers could do to optimize for BB10.
Penned via Tapatalkjmr1015 likes this.03-03-15 02:41 PMLike 1 -
If they didn't use alpha, beta etc or simply revision numbers then typically these are named as follows:
Engineering Validation Test (EVT)
Design Validation Test (DVT)
Production Validation Test (PVT)
Mass Production (MP)03-03-15 02:45 PMLike 0 -
- If BlackBerry had any BRAINS they would bring Verizon and AT&T to the table as key stakeholders from the get go for any new device. They are both arguably BlackBerry's most important partners. They need their blessing up front in order to get these phones on their networks as soon as they are released. But this is BlackBerry we are talking about so forget what I just said...
BB cannot afford to have carriers ready to take and sell new devices while the american two sit around doing their own approvals, just look at the gap between everywhere else and AT&T launching the classic and passport, do you really think that they didn't get either of those at a fairly similar time as the rest of the world?03-03-15 02:53 PMLike 0 - It will definitely be a pre-production unit at this stage, you would tend to have at least three major revisions of a device like this prior to shipping hardware, the first one would not have the final rf performance nor casing, then there would be one with final antennas but not the casing and then you would have one more internal revision that was basically final hardware and then final hardware. (On some projects with less complexity or more reuse of existing stuff then stages 2&3 or 3&4 might be combined)
If they didn't use alpha, beta etc or simply revision numbers then typically these are named as follows:
Engineering Validation Test (EVT)
Design Validation Test (DVT)
Production Validation Test (PVT)
Mass Production (MP)03-03-15 02:59 PMLike 0 - I think you are on to something here. Let's face it, there are so many slab all-touch devices out there that it's as crowded as a Tokyo commuter train at rush hour. Why add to the crush when you are struggling to turn the company around? You need to be noticed and another slab won't do it, at least for the time being.
The suggestion that they should do an all-touch in addition to the different device also overlooks the limited market for a BB10 high-end device for existing users, there will be plenty of overlap between potential slider buyers and potential all-touch buyers so releasing two models near each other would not add significantly to sales while adding noticeably to development costs.03-03-15 03:00 PMLike 0 - There won't be huge differences since any major changes during a project could have an impact on RF performance, heat dissipation etc. but this will have definitely been pre-production units on show as if they had final hardware available the thing would have been close enough to launch that they would have given us a date for it.03-03-15 03:03 PMLike 0
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- Here's another picture. Looks like the slider in white. Back very similar to new Galaxy S6, same camera setup.
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EDIT: Whoops, didn't realize it had already been posted.03-03-15 03:16 PMLike 0 - Can someone explain what's the point with a curved display? Is there any advantage with it or just a show off that Samsung can create foldable displays?03-03-15 03:28 PMLike 0
- People this is a flagship phone......it will not some dual core s4 processor lets be real now.....anon(55900) likes this.03-03-15 03:32 PMLike 1
- You're welcome to your opinion. That said, this thread has lit up with enthusiastic comments, and we have filled up 14 pages of comments in less than a day. You had stated that nobody wants a slider, and I simply stated that you are incorrect. A lot of people would love a slider phone. This is somewhat similar to the Passport discussion. I was one of the people who thought the beta versions of the phone looked horrific. And I wasn't enthralled (and am still not) with the virtual row of keys. That said, the reaction tot he Passport has been far more positive than people expected it to be.
I personally think that there are a lot of business users who love having a full touchscreen phone that isn't a square, and were hesitant to try out the Passport, but they loved having a keyboard, and would be very open to trying out a slider phone like this. I actually spoke to someone yesterday who was talking about how much she missed her keyboard when she saw my Passport.
Sure, I get it that some people only want a slab phone, and the less exciting part of yesterday's news was that another slab phone is coming out.
I'd be willing to bet a high end slab will get released early next year too, probably after the media excitement over the slider phone dies down.
Anyway, to be clear, I *am* speaking for myself, and lots of other people who are excited about this new phone. That's all. Wasn't implying that slab phones were bad, or that your opinion doesn't matter. Just saying that your assumption that nobody (or not many people) will want the slider phone is an opinion that doesn't seem to match the enthusiastic responses that the news has generated.
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- In the case of BB10 you could use it for notification icons or in the hub you could use it for that single icon width menu while not taking away your focus from most of the content in the main part of the display. It might be a little gimmicky, but hopefully they will find ways to use it productively and not simply have it push up the overall cost of the device.03-03-15 03:34 PMLike 0
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