1. Paul Verizzo's Avatar
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    I went to the Dark Side as the clock was approaching the new year. I have spent 100, 200? hours beating the BB Priv I bought into submission and since I was "almost there," it seemed like a logical time to switch. Getting it to run as I would think a phone should. Marshmallow 6.0.1, BTW. When I went Android shopping I zero'd in on the Priv for two reasons. It's different, just as WP was. And it had a keyboard, see the last paragraph here. Truth be told, I've not yet learned what it can do, but will do so.

    After my third OS reinstallation, my Priv sips the battery, FYI. Like 1.2% an hour. Days of run time. Not much worse with the screen on.

    I tried at least 15 of the Metro UI launchers, plus the MS one. Square Home 3 stood out head and shoulders above the others, and the developer actually will communicate with you. We are now working to get live tiles into the product.

    One of my goals was to stay out of the Google ecosystem as much as possible, and use MS and Onedrive as much as possible. I am astounded at how intrusive Google itself is and many Android apps are. Many won't even let you pay the ransom ("In store purchases,") to end the ads! Even launchers! And I'm not talking the little bar at the bottom of the screen ads but full screen intrusions that are difficult to get out of. When was the last time you saw ads in a MS app? And tracking you everywhere. Google sells ads, MS sells..................phones. Well, they did.

    Android requires much more constant "under the hood" attention to do the most simple of tasks. WP to PC? Plug it in, drivers get downloaded, good forever more. Android, well, first you have to become a developer by the secret hand shake. That let's you turn on "USB Debugging." Which has NOTHING to do with debugging in any classic sense. So now it's connected........to only charge. You have to pull down Notifications and look for USB Debugging which when entered will give you four options. You have to select File Transfer to.....well, transfer files. And every time you connect, same thing, it defaults back to charge only.

    Then, with every app installation, granting multiple permissions. For many, the cryptic granting "Overlay other apps permission," I think it's called. I feel like I'm driving a Yugo (if you know what that was) with a ten speed transmission that I have to constantly row.

    I never found a Glance type app that didn't suck the battery. Every. One. Of. Them. Despite having an AMOLED screen and with Android 8, I think, and later, builds it in. I had a light bulb moment and bought a $45 smart watch to do some of the same things. But now I'm having to wear a watch, and I don't like that. Oh, well, it does track my steps and reminds me that I'm a lazy ******.

    The claim of Android having so many apps is false in functional practice. Ninety percent of a given category or function are redundant. I have noticed that many have been plagiarized! They have the exact same interfaces, just tweaking the look a tiny bit. Trying to cash in on ad revenue. And many of them crash, or should be called pre-beta or something.

    Besides installing the Onedrive app, you should also install the One Sync app. That will shoot your pictures up to Onedrive instead of Google.

    I tried a lot of photo gallery apps. Most sweep your phone and just throw them all onto the screen without any delineations of date or control of where they resided. A+ Gallery fixed that. BTW, if you can support the developer (and get rid of ads,) by paying a few shekels, do! I can't believe the number of reviewers that are pissed off that a free app has ads and then won't pay the support.

    My favorite phone of all time was the Nokia Communicator 9290, a horizontal flip phone with a huge keyboard. Those were the original smart phones, ya know? Huge physical keypad, no touchscreen, but Jobs stole the concept. Anyway, my 9290 still works fine (with a big sim!), but it was long ago time to move on. And so I have with WP. I still have an Alcatel Idol 4S for a backup WP phone. I shall turn it on now and then, love me that Windows 10 Mobile for a fix, along with a shot, and cry.
    01-02-20 11:48 AM
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    I went to the Dark Side as the clock was approaching the new year. I have spent 100, 200? hours beating the BB Priv I bought into submission and since I was "almost there," it seemed like a logical time to switch. Getting it to run as I would think a phone should. Marshmallow 6.0.1, BTW. When I went Android shopping I zero'd in on the Priv for two reasons. It's different, just as WP was. And it had a keyboard, see the last paragraph here. Truth be told, I've not yet learned what it can do, but will do so.

    After my third OS reinstallation, my Priv sips the battery, FYI. Like 1.2% an hour. Days of run time. Not much worse with the screen on.

    I tried at least 15 of the Metro UI launchers, plus the MS one. Square Home 3 stood out head and shoulders above the others, and the developer actually will communicate with you. We are now working to get live tiles into the product.

    One of my goals was to stay out of the Google ecosystem as much as possible, and use MS and Onedrive as much as possible. I am astounded at how intrusive Google itself is and many Android apps are. Many won't even let you pay the ransom ("In store purchases,") to end the ads! Even launchers! And I'm not talking the little bar at the bottom of the screen ads but full screen intrusions that are difficult to get out of. When was the last time you saw ads in a MS app? And tracking you everywhere. Google sells ads, MS sells..................phones. Well, they did.

    Android requires much more constant "under the hood" attention to do the most simple of tasks. WP to PC? Plug it in, drivers get downloaded, good forever more. Android, well, first you have to become a developer by the secret hand shake. That let's you turn on "USB Debugging." Which has NOTHING to do with debugging in any classic sense. So now it's connected........to only charge. You have to pull down Notifications and look for USB Debugging which when entered will give you four options. You have to select File Transfer to.....well, transfer files. And every time you connect, same thing, it defaults back to charge only.

    Then, with every app installation, granting multiple permissions. For many, the cryptic granting "Overlay other apps permission," I think it's called. I feel like I'm driving a Yugo (if you know what that was) with a ten speed transmission that I have to constantly row.

    I never found a Glance type app that didn't suck the battery. Every. One. Of. Them. Despite having an AMOLED screen and with Android 8, I think, and later, builds it in. I had a light bulb moment and bought a $45 smart watch to do some of the same things. But now I'm having to wear a watch, and I don't like that. Oh, well, it does track my steps and reminds me that I'm a lazy ******.

    The claim of Android having so many apps is false in functional practice. Ninety percent of a given category or function are redundant. I have noticed that many have been plagiarized! They have the exact same interfaces, just tweaking the look a tiny bit. Trying to cash in on ad revenue. And many of them crash, or should be called pre-beta or something.

    Besides installing the Onedrive app, you should also install the One Sync app. That will shoot your pictures up to Onedrive instead of Google.

    I tried a lot of photo gallery apps. Most sweep your phone and just throw them all onto the screen without any delineations of date or control of where they resided. A+ Gallery fixed that. BTW, if you can support the developer (and get rid of ads,) by paying a few shekels, do! I can't believe the number of reviewers that are pissed off that a free app has ads and then won't pay the support.

    My favorite phone of all time was the Nokia Communicator 9290, a horizontal flip phone with a huge keyboard. Those were the original smart phones, ya know? Huge physical keypad, no touchscreen, but Jobs stole the concept. Anyway, my 9290 still works fine (with a big sim!), but it was long ago time to move on. And so I have with WP. I still have an Alcatel Idol 4S for a backup WP phone. I shall turn it on now and then, love me that Windows 10 Mobile for a fix, along with a shot, and cry.
    Unfortunately, Windows and BlackBerry lost due to a lack of support. There are several thread here of innovative ways to deal with the Android Google monster, from limited fake profiles to de-googling with limited success. Good luck.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    01-02-20 05:34 PM
  4. Exedorable's Avatar
    Interesting read! I've had a number of friends who had used, and raved about them during their use, WP but I'm not sure why I never got into them. My Priv is essentially stock (no replacement parts, not custom Rom etc) and it surprisingly made it thru 2019. Battery is down to an avg of 2 hrs screen on time. I've gotten occasional 2.5-3 and a few days this year I've even managed to hit 3.5 hrs but it's quite rare. Just can't put it down, typing on it right now in fact! While I'm still able to get by on 2-4 charges a day, my daily driver has increasingly become my KEYᵒⁿᵉ.
    01-02-20 09:01 PM
  5. falbo's Avatar
    Interesting read! I've had a number of friends who had used, and raved about them during their use, WP but I'm not sure why I never got into them. My Priv is essentially stock (no replacement parts, not custom Rom etc) and it surprisingly made it thru 2019. Battery is down to an avg of 2 hrs screen on time. I've gotten occasional 2.5-3 and a few days this year I've even managed to hit 3.5 hrs but it's quite rare. Just can't put it down, typing on it right now in fact! While I'm still able to get by on 2-4 charges a day, my daily driver has increasingly become my KEYᵒⁿᵉ.
    Maybe try replacing the battery on the Priv, this is a unique device that deserves a little bit longer of use ;-)


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    Exedorable likes this.
    01-03-20 05:50 AM

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