- I wish he wouldn't refer to different regional versions of a device as a 'new device'. The Leap feels like a Z3 for North America, and what I think is called the Oslo is the China version of the Passport, I think... so I wouldn't count either of those devices (nor the Porsche derivatives) as "new"... but if Chen is, then I guess the Slider is the only "new device" coming out this year.
I don't suppose he said whether or not it has the toolbelt and / or a touch-sensitive keyboard like the Passport (but not 3 rows, the traditional BB Classic style, I assume).05-30-15 09:32 PMLike 0 -
Q10SQN100-3/10.2.1.344205-31-15 06:48 AMLike 0 - If this is the emerging line up for the year, I'll definitely be disappointed! One of these phones should be an all-touch replacement for the Z line and I don't consider the slider a fill-in for the Z30.
Look! It's Zedzilla 30!RyanGermann likes this.05-31-15 08:14 AMLike 1 -
I think a super powerful BB10 full touch device is overdue and would be "interesting" for the media and perhaps the media would be able to appreciate it in the proper context. The marketing and positioning of such a device would have to be carefully controlled and nuanced to stave off another round of "BlackBerry has released another "iPhone Killer" that doesn't have any decent apps". So long as this device is released alongside very clear and "told to anyone who will listen" statements like:
"This full slab powerful device was released in direct response to and to accommodate specific BB10 customers who want this specific form factor, not to try to outmaneuver Apple in the consumer space."
If they do that, then when tech reviewers review the device, they'll say "best full touch BB10 device ever, and Amazon app store has lots of good apps, that run really well on this device because even an Android VM runs really well on such a powerful device... we're impressed, but if you really want an Android device, buy the S6".
That kind of review I could live with.05-31-15 01:21 PMLike 0 - I personally don't see how everyone thinks there will be a Passport refresh
BB's not going to release a revision in just a year. I think it's probably going to be the Z series refresh05-31-15 01:34 PMLike 0 - because chen said it was another keyboard device, so we know its not a all touch replacement. So why wouldnt a passport refresh make the most sense?05-31-15 02:00 PMLike 0
- Like Howarmat alluded to, at MWC John Chen said there were 4 devices:
- Leap
- Slider
- Keian, codename for P'9984 (assumed to be Porsche Design version of Passport)
- Another qwerty device
Doesn't matter if you're disappointed or not; this was what they announced.
FTR, I am disappointed too, and will be unless there's a full-touchscreen flagship. Which there won't be. So I'll just stay disappointed.howarmat and Blacklatino like this.05-31-15 02:11 PMLike 2 - because they have the classic which is a replacement for both those devices IMO, especially the q5. I am not saying they wont do a lower end keyboard device but I feel that the passport is a better device to update.05-31-15 02:30 PMLike 0
- Like Howarmat alluded to, at MWC John Chen said there were 4 devices:
- Leap
- Slider
- Keian, codename for P'9984 (assumed to be Porsche Design version of Passport)
- Another qwerty device
Doesn't matter if you're disappointed or not; this was what they announced.
FTR, I am disappointed too, and will be unless there's a full-touchscreen flagship. Which there won't be. So I'll just stay disappointed.Elite1 likes this.05-31-15 06:12 PMLike 1 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorSee, I don't think the new slider will be as bad as the Milan might have been, just because display tech has improved that much in the past couple of years. AND, from the looks of it, it doesn't look like the slider will be that thick/bulky/heavy compared to the Z30, either.
I get the complaints, and I get the desire for a straight high-end full-touch, but there's a chance this will work for a lot of those users. Obviously, any potential buyer is going to want to see the device in person and check out the mechanism to know for sure, so I hope this gets promoted reasonably well.05-31-15 06:39 PMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorAt the risk of sounding dumb, the Passport is only 8 months old and still reasonably high on the spec curve. What "update" would we be looking at?05-31-15 06:40 PMLike 0
- ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorI wish he wouldn't refer to different regional versions of a device as a 'new device'. The Leap feels like a Z3 for North America, and what I think is called the Oslo is the China version of the Passport, I think... so I wouldn't count either of those devices (nor the Porsche derivatives) as "new"... but if Chen is, then I guess the Slider is the only "new device" coming out this year.
I don't suppose he said whether or not it has the toolbelt and / or a touch-sensitive keyboard like the Passport (but not 3 rows, the traditional BB Classic style, I assume).Jasper-Ng likes this.05-31-15 06:43 PMLike 1 - if you refresh it later in the year around same time as the slider it would be a year old at that point. I wasnt suggesting update it now. I am not saying the refresh needs to be same as current passport. I think they can release a device somewhere in between the size of the q10 and passport to please everyone perhaps. I just dont see the need for a q10 or q5 refresh since you have the classic and the classic doesnt seem like a device that needs a yearly refresh really05-31-15 06:54 PMLike 0
- if you refresh it later in the year around same time as the slider it would be a year old at that point. I wasnt suggesting update it now. I am not saying the refresh needs to be same as current passport. I think they can release a device somewhere in between the size of the q10 and passport to please everyone perhaps. I just dont see the need for a q10 or q5 refresh since you have the classic and the classic doesnt seem like a device that needs a yearly refresh really
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Chen also hinted at future developments within the company. The CEO confirmed to The Globe & Mail that the company will be working on a second generation of the 3-row QWERTY device. There were no other details listed as to its features or release date.
Finally, another gem by Chen said that BlackBerry will unveil �a new BlackBerry device concept� at the upcoming Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Again, no details were given,06-01-15 08:27 AMLike 0 - Agreed. I'm looking for a 64 bit Passport in the fall running an 810 like the rumored Slider. I'm not sure I could fall back to a smaller screen, though. The current Passport is a little small for me. I have no idea why people complain about the size of it. Not a problem, at all. Significantly smaller than best-selling phones on other platforms, too.
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Aside from LTE vs HSPA, you've got most notably screen res (720x1280 vs 540x960), CPU (1.5GHz vs 1.2), RAM (2GB vs 1.5), and device storage (16GB vs 8). There's also improvements in battery size (2,800 mAh vs 2,500 mAh), rear camera (8MP vs 5), and front camera (2MP vs 1.2).
For anyone who cares, see graphic below.
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In other news, I had hands on a Leap last week at Telus store. Decent hardware, decent display. If it had even the mildest increase in CPU speed and 32GB, I'd give one a try since I don't use NFC, Miracast, etc, anyway. But no way I'd give up Z30 to get a Leap as it actually is.06-01-15 01:42 PMLike 0 -
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