- I personally think they wasted money on that curved screen. Make it a traditional flat screen and save the money for a slightly cheaper device. But I'll reserve judgement till they explain how they are utilizing the screen.10-19-15 11:22 AMLike 0
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Posted via CB1010-19-15 11:54 AMLike 0 -
- It is a truly beautiful device and based on the BlackBerry's long history of making nice devices, I will give it a 700-USD price tag. But if, hopefully not, it does exceed the amount, I will seriously think about switching to iPhone since it is the spec back to five month ago, and it is an Android. You have to talk about spec when you buy an Android. They make the change, and they live with the consequence.
Posted via CB1010-19-15 12:05 PMLike 0 - I've been searching for a 'plan b' a phone I will buy in case the price of the priv is 800+ and so far nothing. The new flagships coming out are either too big or come inferior when compared to the priv.
I came to a conclusion even if the price of the priv is 800+ I'm still getting it...no other (android) phone can match what that phone is offering (native android hub, pkb, battery life, beautiful looking)
Am I right or wrong?Adam Frix likes this.10-19-15 12:21 PMLike 1 - The $949/$749 estimates had the VAT included which is not charged in Canada or the US. A fairer estimate would be $885/$685 and that's assuming the same pricing model, generally Canadian and US pricing is set lower than Europe so $795-$849/$625-$675 wouldn't be out of order. Still a hefty price in Canada with it's collapsing dollar against pretty much every other currency out there.10-19-15 12:26 PMLike 0
- The $949/$749 estimates had the VAT included which is not charged in Canada or the US. A fairer estimate would be $885/$685 and that's assuming the same pricing model, generally Canadian and US pricing is set lower than Europe so $795-$849/$625-$675 wouldn't be out of order yet still hefty in Canada with it's deflating dollar.
579 GBP minus 20% = 483 GBP
483 GBP = 749 USD = 949 CAD
And actually it's charged, just not included in the price as it varies by province/state. The only thing I did not factor is potentially CPW's markup, which seems like around $100 CAD during launch period.10-19-15 12:28 PMLike 0 - I've been searching for a 'plan b' a phone I will buy in case the price of the priv is 800+ and so far nothing. The new flagships coming out are either too big or come inferior when compared to the priv.
I came to a conclusion even if the price of the priv is 800+ I'm still getting it...no other (android) phone can match what that phone is offering (native android hub, pkb, battery life, beautiful looking)
Am I right or wrong?
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android10-19-15 04:27 PMLike 0 - I've been searching for a 'plan b' a phone I will buy in case the price of the priv is 800+ and so far nothing. The new flagships coming out are either too big or come inferior when compared to the priv.
I came to a conclusion even if the price of the priv is 800+ I'm still getting it...no other (android) phone can match what that phone is offering (native android hub, pkb, battery life, beautiful looking)
Am I right or wrong?
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I think Chen is a joke and what he's done to BlackBerry should have gotten him fired long ago. But, I don't think a Priv at $500 or $550 is a bad deal, at all. I'd probably buy one for that and just refuse to look in the mirror for the next couple of days.10-19-15 06:18 PMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired Moderator10-20-15 03:20 AMLike 0
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Yes for true security it isn't good enough, and it' not a feature that Enterprise even wants. But it can easily be disable in a enterprise environment.
I think it's better to have the "option" than not to offer it at all.... especially if you are going to price your phones at the top end of the spectrum.
And as an "old guy" you might would appreciate the heart rate sensor that is usually a part of that package.... especially when the PRIV sales figures start showing up.10-20-15 09:35 AMLike 0 - Respectfully, I think you are wrong. It's my understanding that the Hub will be offered to Android and iOS users who do not purchase the Priv as part of the BlackBerry Experience suite of apps. If you subtract the curved screen and physical keyboard -- and the latter is a big part of the draw of the Priv, immediately -- you are probably talking about a device that should sell for around $400. Over the last couple of months it's become clear that early issues with the 810 overheating have been solved in phones such as the OnePlus 2 and Lumia 950XL. The only released benchmarks for the Priv showing it perform about where the OnePlus One does -- which is last year's device and one you can purchase for about $199 or $250 new these days. I think the Priv competes well with big brand phones that came out about six months ago, but if you are looking for an Android, I think we'll see the LG G5 with an 820 coming out around April 2016 and that should blow away the Priv. The Priv is also rumored to have a subpar forward-facing camera and other issues. I think the Priv is a good choice for people who can't bring themselves to buy a better phone that doesn't say BlackBerry on it -- even though, the Priv is basically an Android phone with a physical keyboard and not a BlackBerry platform device. I kind of hope that we see Jolla Sailfish take off or Windows 10 mobile take off with the upcoming Surface Phone.
I think Chen is a joke and what he's done to BlackBerry should have gotten him fired long ago. But, I don't think a Priv at $500 or $550 is a bad deal, at all. I'd probably buy one for that and just refuse to look in the mirror for the next couple of days.
Cheaper solution and does the samething.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android10-20-15 09:41 AMLike 0 -
This is a dumb argument... it's an optional feature, if someone doesn't feel it's secure enough, those devices all have the ability to use a password. But for those that want more security than... nothing. Fingerprint reader is good enough for the average consumer.
There was a poll once here on the number of BB10 users that didn't lock their phone.... almost 50% don't do it. But if they had a fingerprint reader I bet some of them would add that simple layer of basic security.10-20-15 11:32 AMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired Moderator
I get that "if apple and Samy do ..." argument. But BlackBerry is all about security, right ?
Shall we balance it with a gadget at the risk of such a magnitude nightmare ?
It's not BlackBerry alone. It's the whole electronic world that is affected.
As of date, they've (OPM) not even been smart enough to encrypt it ... speaks volume about blindness.
Here's more, to illustrate what I'm talking about (and sorry guys for the OT) :
OPM Now Admits 5.6m Feds' Fingerprints Were Stolen By Hackers | WIRED
When hackers steal your password, you change it. When hackers steal your fingerprints, they’ve got an unchangeable credential that lets them spoof your identity for life. When they steal 5.6 million of those irrevocable biometric identifiers from U.S. federal employees—many with secret clearances—well, that’s very bad.
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Yup. Eyeball, face recognition : whatever is UNIQUE and UNCHANGEABLE but digitally stored is a massive threat.10-20-15 11:38 AMLike 0 -
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ususal story if it is not on a BB it is not secure..I bet if the fingerprint reader was on the Priv you would say it was secure(which it is)10-21-15 01:04 PMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorNo. I won't. Unless something really innovative changes my POV.
(edited) And, again, it's not about fingerprint on device only. It's for remotely stored ones I'm worried about.
Posted via CB1010-21-15 01:12 PMLike 0 - yeah right you unlock phone with your finger under duress but you will not tell your password under similar circumstances..I guess if someone put a gun in your head you have no problem unlocking the phone with your fingertip but you will not tell your password, right? LOL
ususal story if it is not on a BB it is not secure..I bet if the fingerprint reader was on the Priv you would say it was secure(which it is)10-21-15 02:55 PMLike 0 -
- Uhmm he's been a member for a really long time and if the price is right, I have no doubts that he would buy more than one to spread the words around.
To BB or not to BBBBBB...?10-21-15 04:41 PMLike 0 - It's not because of technical or legal implications... it's out of principle. I'd like to keep biometrics out of my life as much as possible.... :-)
I feel biometrics take away from our human dignity. But that's just me and doesn't need to be discussed here...
� Ahoy, Privateers...! :-) �
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