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Now if the PRIV is a enterprise focused device... they I expect it will have a locked boot rom. But I'm afraid that most of the things that will make the PRIV attractive to the enterprise customer, will make it unattractive to the average consumer who would rather not have their battery life affected by 10 different BlackBerry Experience Apps running in the background.
I hope there is an "App" to easily turn off or on all the BlackBerry stuff....Witmen and thinkinfinity like this.09-30-15 09:25 AMLike 2 - It's not magic, it's been done before. It just usually leads to poor sales in a consumer focused devices, as rooting was something that Android power users expected.
Now if the PRIV is a enterprise focused device... they I expect it will have a locked boot rom. But I'm afraid that most of the things that will make the PRIV attractive to the enterprise customer, will make it unattractive to the average consumer who would rather not have their battery life affected by 10 different BlackBerry Experience Apps running in the background.
I hope there is an "App" to easily turn off or on all the BlackBerry stuff....anischab and thinkinfinity like this.09-30-15 10:20 AMLike 2 - BrantaRetired Network Mod
An unrootable android device will go down like a lead balloon as far as the android end-user community is concerned. For the enterprise security admins it will be the best thing since sliced bread but users will hate a locked down device just as much as they hate BBOS and BB10 devices.thinkinfinity likes this.09-30-15 11:27 AMLike 1 - An unrootable android device will go down like a lead balloon as far as the android end-user community is concerned. For the enterprise security admins it will be the best thing since sliced bread but users will hate a locked down device just as much as they hate BBOS and BB10 devices.09-30-15 03:54 PMLike 2
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And let's not kid ourselves - the Priv (with PKB) is not going to make a significant dent in Samsung's sales or lower priced oems. We'll be lucky if it's priced around $599 so even by going Android the main target of this phone is definitely Enterprise (with the added hope of picking up some marketshare in the consumer sphere).
I hope they do well enough to stay in the handset business as I love the touch capacitive pkb, but that's not the majority of users these days so if it turns out to be unrootable that won't make or break things, imho.thinkinfinity likes this.09-30-15 04:59 PMLike 1 -
- Ain't going to happen unless they lock down the boot loader AND crypto sign the software with robust verification at boot. Anything less is fair game for the root community, and even a locked boot loader is ultimately vulnerable to a brute force attack - although it might take rather a long time before it is broken.
An unrootable android device will go down like a lead balloon as far as the android end-user community is concerned. For the enterprise security admins it will be the best thing since sliced bread but users will hate a locked down device just as much as they hate BBOS and BB10 devices.10-01-15 12:02 AMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorAin't going to happen unless they lock down the boot loader AND crypto sign the software with robust verification at boot. Anything less is fair game for the root community, and even a locked boot loader is ultimately vulnerable to a brute force attack - although it might take rather a long time before it is broken.
An unrootable android device will go down like a lead balloon as far as the android end-user community is concerned. For the enterprise security admins it will be the best thing since sliced bread but users will hate a locked down device just as much as they hate BBOS and BB10 devices.
I'm not sure there's (relevant) statistics about rooted Android devices but I'd be really surprised it's over 10% (including the geeks having multiple active devices).
Mister Chen, please : lock this PRIV system files to death.
The day it is rooted would be the most damageable for the BlackBerry brand credibility, ever.
At the opposite, the day it can survive a hackathon, they become the first brand to gain credibility when putting the words "security" and "Android" together. [please note: I'm talking wide audience, not secured Android for work purposes with dedicated enterprise grade solutions on device + back end]Last edited by Superfly_FR; 10-01-15 at 02:37 AM. Reason: My last sentence was way too much theatrical and missed the positive side of things.
10-01-15 02:22 AMLike 6 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorI love how any randomly named Dtek, D-tek or Dtec website will be flooded by requests10-01-15 02:48 AMLike 0
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- Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorIn short : replace the original Android distribution (OS) by another one, where user rights ('privil�ges') are wider and allow features and capabilities enhancements, deletion ('bloatware') or replacements, at the risk of a weaker protection.10-01-15 04:30 AMLike 0
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Posted via the CrackBerry App for AndroidSuperfly_FR likes this.10-01-15 05:43 AMLike 1 - In normal terms, it allows the user to have access to the root files of the phone. It's essentially like if Windows locked you out of the System Files folder in the C drive. It's normally done by finding an exploit to allow the phone to be unlocked for access to the root files. Without certain apps, however, having a rooted device is of no use. Many people use SuperSU which gives the user the ability to allow other apps access to the root of the device. You'd need this and a root file explorer to do any manual root work.
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Sent from my A0001 using TapatalkSuperfly_FR likes this.10-01-15 06:16 AMLike 1 -
- I think Enterprise would not want users to have access to the ROOT - even if it can be detected and locked out.
But I think a large number of Sideloading, Leak installing Power users would very much like to play around with the ROOT. How many of those tech writers and other Android sites that are talking about the PRIV right now are going to be less interested in the PRIV if it is locked down?
While most user don't root... I think in a way the enthusiasm that those power users have for a device, does affect the buying decisions of the non-power users.
It's kinda one of those danged if you do and danged if you don't situations. But based on their Security is what we do outlook, I think that have to lock every door, window and crack they can. And hope that the keyboard and security will do something it hasn't done too much of it the past.... sell.10-01-15 10:14 AMLike 0 - But I think a large number of Sideloading, Leak installing Power users would very much like to play around with the ROOT. How many of those tech writers and other Android sites that are talking about the PRIV right now are going to be less interested in the PRIV if it is locked down?
But I agree that BlackBerry's security reputation is on the line here, and there will be an expectation that the phone is locked down pretty tight.10-01-15 12:46 PMLike 0 -
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