This was almost a perfect phone. Knew BlackBerry would eff it up somehow. Shame.
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This was almost a perfect phone. Knew BlackBerry would eff it up somehow. Shame.
Megapixels is only one spec that defines how good a camera can be.
Smartphone cameras aren't that great to begin with because good photography requires good glass. That means big lenses with multipe elements and optical coatings. Small lenses are at a big disadvantage especially when they are mass produced. I don't care how big your sensor is, when the lens isn't great, you are not capturing detail anyway. Smartphone do a lot in software to try to compensate for bad hardware but there is only so much that can be done.
The sad part is that 99.9% of people will look at the megapixel spec and get all excited about it. And we see threads like this pouring fuel on the fire.
The Passport's 13 Megapixel camera should be great, right?
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The average customer will also want an SD card and slide out keyboard. OP is right. The average customer will realize those features don't exist on S6 and if they're desperate for a better quality pic they can turn their phone around and snap a photo.
It's kind of a no brainer.
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Most people don't actually care how 'high tech' their selfies are.
By the time they realize it's an average camera it would be too late to return :p
It's not a deal breaker for me, but it will be a deal breaker for a significant amount of people especially now because the iphone has 5mp front, which has always lagged in the megapixel race.
Front cameras are a huge sell for many companies including oppo, Sony, LG, hua Wei and the like.
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The sliding part of the phone is too thin... 2MP front camera is OK for me
That's what I mean, I'll still be getting the phone. But a vast amount of people that are tuned in megapixel race won't be.
Very rare to see your posting without sarcasm :)
I understand, and I wished the Priv could fullfill everybody's demands. Not smartphone is good at everything, I'll rather have a good battery than a good front facing camera (looking at you Galaxy S6
I normaly don't take selfies (I rather ask someone to take a pic of me and other person), but even if I did, I would rather take with the rear camera that's much better than any front facing camera on the market. If someone's IQ isn't good enought to frame a selfie without looking at the screen, just put a mirror on the back :D
And that's what bothers me... Nobody complained about the picture quality when the front facing camera photo leaked because they thought it was a Glorious 5mp... But as soon as they realised it was shamefull 2mp they started to rage like a pocket dog... So the problem isn't the quality, the problem is the bragging rights in the bar with friends...
That's ONE feature. How does the S6 or iPhone compare to the Priv on removable/upgradeable storage, for example? Will people ONLY compare based on front facing camera?
The S6 rear facing camera is only 16MP instead of 18 on the Priv - and the 6S is only 12. Isn't that something to complain about? Which camera do you use more? I don't get it.
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Fair enough :)
Ugh.. How will I be able to take decent ***** pics and send them to women if the Priv will only have a 2 mp front facing camera?! Ugh, what a failure of a phone, will not buy. [emoji23]
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Unless they are comparing megapixels on the rear facing element as well. The Priv does pretty well in the spec race, when looking across the board at everything it offers. Pick a phone - any phone by any manufacturer, and I will show you something on it that is a compromise. I would be much more unhappy about a inadequate battery or lack of SD slot than I would about MP of the front facing camera.
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I could care less, but here's my rant that I just went on in the thread on specs that is showing a 2MP front facing camera...
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I highly doubt anyone that much into selfies knows anything about the specs of their phone. More about is the screen pretty and does the phone look nice.
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Would you rather have 18M/2M cameras and have the phone priced reasonably, or put 21M/13M camera and price the whole thing too high and watch the entire hardware division go poof? Design tradeoffs.
How did the HTC Desire Eye (HTC Desire Eye review | TechRadar) with the front 13M sell?
How about 18M/5M and price it reasonably.
More critical than the resolution of a front sensor is the speed of focus, and the low-light sensitivity.
Unlike the back sensor, the front camera does not have the luxury of a flash. Additionally, 'selfies' are generally pretty spontaneous and people want to take them quickly (because--you don't want to be 'that' loser for too long).
Finally, most selfies are taken to be shared in social media context, where image sizes are pretty limited (even on a desktop, images on Facebook are only a small area of the overall layout--- and on mobile devices, layouts are even smaller).
So... I would argue that the sensor resolution is less of a factor than its performance under those specific conditions, fast focus, blur/movement resilience, low light sensitivity.
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Actually, Apple and the Nexus phones now have front flash. Those phones are also equal or lower in price than the Priv is anticipated to be.
Given that this is a "premium" device, a 2MP front facing camera is unacceptable.
IPhone had 1.2 front cams for the longest time and we're considered premium... there's other factors that concern me more than the MP count...
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That's because Apple had great camera specs other than the MP and people could see it in the picture quality. That's not the case with BB.
The touch sensitive keyboard, slider mechanism and security software isn't off the shelf and sure as hell won't develop itself for free.
That may be true. But I would venture to say the better cameras and aluminum bodies for those phones are cheap either.