- Megapixels is only one spec that defines how good a camera can be.
Smartphone cameras aren't that great to begin with because good photography requires good glass. That means big lenses with multipe elements and optical coatings. Small lenses are at a big disadvantage especially when they are mass produced. I don't care how big your sensor is, when the lens isn't great, you are not capturing detail anyway. Smartphone do a lot in software to try to compensate for bad hardware but there is only so much that can be done.
The sad part is that 99.9% of people will look at the megapixel spec and get all excited about it. And we see threads like this pouring fuel on the fire.
The Passport's 13 Megapixel camera should be great, right?
Posted via CB1010-18-15 10:50 AMLike 0 -
It's kind of a no brainer.
Posted via CB1010-18-15 10:53 AMLike 0 -
Front cameras are a huge sell for many companies including oppo, Sony, LG, hua Wei and the like.
Posted via CB1010-18-15 11:00 AMLike 0 - It's not a deal breaker for me, but it will be a deal breaker for a significant amount of people especially now because the iphone has 5mp front, which has always lagged in the megapixel race.
Front cameras are a huge sell for many companies including oppo, Sony, LG, hua Wei and the like.
Posted via CB1010-18-15 11:01 AMLike 0 - That may be the case. Nevertheless, I will be purchasing the phone at first chance. It really is down on my list of things I care about. I am just making the point that in today's market, many care about both cameras and in some cases, put more emphasis on the front camera.
I normaly don't take selfies (I rather ask someone to take a pic of me and other person), but even if I did, I would rather take with the rear camera that's much better than any front facing camera on the market. If someone's IQ isn't good enought to frame a selfie without looking at the screen, just put a mirror on the back10-18-15 11:07 AMLike 0 - And that's what bothers me... Nobody complained about the picture quality when the front facing camera photo leaked because they thought it was a Glorious 5mp... But as soon as they realised it was shamefull 2mp they started to rage like a pocket dog... So the problem isn't the quality, the problem is the bragging rights in the bar with friends...Brandon Tobias and Adam Frix like this.10-18-15 11:09 AMLike 2
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The S6 rear facing camera is only 16MP instead of 18 on the Priv - and the 6S is only 12. Isn't that something to complain about? Which camera do you use more? I don't get it.
Posted via CB1010-18-15 11:09 AMLike 0 - UziRetired ModeratorThat's ONE feature. How does the S6 or iPhone compare to the Priv on removable/upgradeable storage, for example? Will people ONLY compare based on front facing camera?
The S6 rear facing camera is only 16MP instead of 18 on the Priv - and the 6S is only 12. Isn't that something to complain about? Which camera do you use more? I don't get it.
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Posted via CB1010-18-15 11:14 AMLike 0 - I could care less, but here's my rant that I just went on in the thread on specs that is showing a 2MP front facing camera...
I'm really shocked at the 2MP front camera. Sadly, that's a deal breaker for many. I just went on a cruise and found out what a "selfie stick" is. Couldn't believe how many people were using them. I was literally cracking up.
Anyway, my mom has a Passport and my sister just got an iPhone6S (from her Z30 because she hated the name priv SMH @ BlackBerry still). My mom goes on about the "specs" of the Passport and heard her telling my sister that her Passport has a better camera because of the MP than the iPhone and my sister agreed that the Passport camera is of course better since it has higher MP.
My best friend has a S6 Active and didn't really use the front camera much until this phone and it takes amazing shots and I had him interested in the Slider. He saw the info on the rear camera and his dad is huge on pics so he said they both might get it. If the front facing camera is 2MP, neither will get the phone.
I'm really kinda shocked that it's not a 5 considering all other specs are high end and the rear camera seemed to get good attention from BlackBerry. I guess I shouldn't be shocked at anything... still can't believe they're calling this a priv (yes I'm still pissed since my mom and sister bailed solely because of the name).
...Now my best friend and his dad will be out because it's 2 instead of 5. I'm trying to sell this thing, but BlackBerry is making it difficult for me to sell to the general consumer. First the name (superficial, but companies spend millions to get this correct), now my best friend and his dad who are big picture fans and loved the rear camera will be out.
Embarrassed to even tell him the front is only a 2MP after talking it up so much. He didn't mind the name, said it was weird, had no clue it had anything to do with privacy, but moved on and said the specs look awesome (he's an Android fanboy) and him and his dad would likely get one. Really hope I'm wrong AGAIN and it is a 5MP just for paper, doesn't matter if it shoots like a 2MP. Ugh...
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Posted via CB1010-18-15 11:18 AMLike 0 - It's not a deal breaker for me, but it will be a deal breaker for a significant amount of people especially now because the iphone has 5mp front, which has always lagged in the megapixel race.
Front cameras are a huge sell for many companies including oppo, Sony, LG, hua Wei and the like.
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Posted via CB1010-18-15 11:39 AMLike 0 - Would you rather have 18M/2M cameras and have the phone priced reasonably, or put 21M/13M camera and price the whole thing too high and watch the entire hardware division go poof? Design tradeoffs.
How did the HTC Desire Eye (HTC Desire Eye review | TechRadar) with the front 13M sell?10-18-15 11:45 AMLike 0 - Would you rather have 18M/2M cameras and have the phone priced reasonably, or put 21M/13M camera and price the whole thing too high and watch the entire hardware division go poof? Design tradeoffs.
How did the HTC Desire Eye (HTC Desire Eye review | TechRadar) with the front 13M sell?10-18-15 11:57 AMLike 4 - More critical than the resolution of a front sensor is the speed of focus, and the low-light sensitivity.
Unlike the back sensor, the front camera does not have the luxury of a flash. Additionally, 'selfies' are generally pretty spontaneous and people want to take them quickly (because--you don't want to be 'that' loser for too long).
Finally, most selfies are taken to be shared in social media context, where image sizes are pretty limited (even on a desktop, images on Facebook are only a small area of the overall layout--- and on mobile devices, layouts are even smaller).
So... I would argue that the sensor resolution is less of a factor than its performance under those specific conditions, fast focus, blur/movement resilience, low light sensitivity.
Posted via CB1010-18-15 12:06 PMLike 3 - More critical than the resolution of a front sensor is the speed of focus, and the low-light sensitivity.
Unlike the back sensor, the front camera does not have the luxury of a flash. Additionally, 'selfies' are generally pretty spontaneous and people want to take them quickly (because--you don't want to be 'that' loser for too long).
Finally, most selfies are taken to be shared in social media context, where image sizes are pretty limited (even on a desktop, images on Facebook are only a small area of the overall layout--- and on mobile devices, layouts are even smaller).
So... I would argue that the sensor resolution is less of a factor than its performance under those specific conditions, fast focus, blur/movement resilience, low light sensitivity.
Posted via CB1010-18-15 12:08 PMLike 0 - Given that this is a "premium" device, a 2MP front facing camera is unacceptable.DroidBerryGuy and RLTurn77 like this.10-18-15 12:08 PMLike 2
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- That's because Apple had great camera specs other than the MP and people could see it in the picture quality. That's not the case with BB.10-18-15 12:38 PMLike 0
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