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  1. Gray's Avatar
    I would like a PRIV II that will be able to receive future OS upgrades
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    06-19-18 11:19 PM
  2. EskeRahn's Avatar
    I would like a PRIV II that will be able to receive future OS upgrades
    Yes with "Treble" please
    06-20-18 04:12 AM
  3. EskeRahn's Avatar
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    PS. Those that don't mind the keyboard eating the display area might be interested in a solution like this - if they can find it, in stock somewhere.
    It is actually a quite clever solution, purely mechanical (EDIT: ) capacitively interacting with the display, and you can take off the keyboard (of course) and click it on the back. Should be detected automatically. I would guess NFC, or (EDIT: ) With NFC and a strategically placed magnet
    Sounds like a quite good alternative to a Key½ to me
    It exist (as what I found on ebay, at the least for S6edge+, S7, S7edge, S8, S8+ Note8)
    Some can be found REALLY cheap!!! (the oldest as low as £1 including shipping!!)
    Campaign: We Want BlackBerry Priv 2!-s-l1600.jpg Campaign: We Want BlackBerry Priv 2!-s-l1600.jpg Campaign: We Want BlackBerry Priv 2!-s-l1600.jpg
    Here the official link for s8
    Last edited by EskeRahn; 06-22-18 at 06:00 AM. Reason: Factual error
    06-20-18 05:06 AM
  4. ToniCipriani's Avatar
    It is actually a quite clever solution, purely mechanical interacting with the display, and you can take off the keyboard (of course) and click it on the back. Should be detected automatically. I would guess NFC, or a strategically placed magnet?
    Sounds like a quite good alternative to a Key½ to me
    It exist (as what I found on ebay, at the least for S6edge, S7, S7edge, S8, S8+ Note8)
    Some can be found REALLY cheap!!! (the oldest as low as £1 including shipping!!)
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    Here the official link for s8
    Except it isn't a real solution. They're just sticks that poke the screen. AFAIK there isn't even backlighting.
    06-20-18 09:18 AM
  5. EskeRahn's Avatar
    Except it isn't a real solution. They're just sticks that poke the screen. AFAIK there isn't even backlighting.
    Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

    And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.
    06-20-18 10:55 AM
  6. conite's Avatar
    Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

    And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.
    Attachments are outright junk.
    06-20-18 01:30 PM
  7. ToniCipriani's Avatar
    Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

    And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.
    Well it sold so well they got rid of it for the S9.
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    06-20-18 01:32 PM
  8. EskeRahn's Avatar
    Attachments are outright junk.
    Well it depends on the available alternatives, these might be even worse - it all depend on the usage pattern...
    If it has not been for the awful Ios, I would most likely have stayed with the solution of an Ip6- and a qwerty slider case - despite it being an "attachment".
    06-20-18 05:44 PM
  9. EskeRahn's Avatar
    Well it sold so well they got rid of it for the S9.
    Yes they obviously did not sell in volumes enough for Samsung to care about.
    But despite never seen an ad for any of these I would not be surprised if they have sold amounts comparable to BB...

    Of course it is a clumsy solution, but if the alternative is no keyboard at all, or taking up a third of the surface area all the time, it could be interesting for those of us that feels the need for a full size display. For my usage pattern it would clearly be worse than a slider like a Priv II, but still better than a Key½.
    06-20-18 05:52 PM
  10. EskeRahn's Avatar
    Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

    And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.
    Actually it is NOT just reacting with the display mechanically, as I thought too, so must be using NFC for powering and communication (EDIT: ) capacitively interacts with the display - and that also explains why it is not just transparent for lighting the keys. Ordered one out of curiosity (and they delivered it really quickly).
    The keys have a movement quite like the ones on the priv, and are about the size of the keys of the Priv, BUT turned in portrait
    Campaign: We Want BlackBerry Priv 2!-r1090272.jpg
    The combo is about 13mm thick at the thickest including the case.
    (the top of the keys is about 3mm above the display)
    ....and yeah, I ought to have dusted the Priv before the photo

    EDIT: Bought more, and have taken one apart, see more images here
    Last edited by EskeRahn; 06-22-18 at 06:07 AM. Reason: more info
    06-21-18 04:53 AM
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