[Gray]

I would like a PRIV II that will be able to receive future OS upgrades

[EskeRahn]

I would like a PRIV II that will be able to receive future OS upgrades

Yes with "Treble" please

[EskeRahn]

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PS. Those that don't mind the keyboard eating the display area might be interested in a solution like this - if they can find it, in stock somewhere.

It is actually a quite clever solution, purely mechanical (EDIT: ) capacitively interacting with the display, and you can take off the keyboard (of course) and click it on the back. Should be detected automatically. I would guess NFC, or (EDIT: ) With NFC and a strategically placed magnet
Sounds like a quite good alternative to a Key½ to me
It exist (as what I found on ebay, at the least for S6edge+, S7, S7edge, S8, S8+ Note8)
Some can be found REALLY cheap!!! (the oldest as low as £1 including shipping!!)

Here the official link for s8

[ToniCipriani]

It is actually a quite clever solution, purely mechanical interacting with the display, and you can take off the keyboard (of course) and click it on the back. Should be detected automatically. I would guess NFC, or a strategically placed magnet?
Sounds like a quite good alternative to a Key½ to me
It exist (as what I found on ebay, at the least for S6edge, S7, S7edge, S8, S8+ Note8)
Some can be found REALLY cheap!!! (the oldest as low as £1 including shipping!!)

Here the official link for s8

Except it isn't a real solution. They're just sticks that poke the screen. AFAIK there isn't even backlighting.

[EskeRahn]

Except it isn't a real solution. They're just sticks that poke the screen. AFAIK there isn't even backlighting.

Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.

[conite]

Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.

Attachments are outright junk.

[ToniCipriani]

Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.

Well it sold so well they got rid of it for the S9.

[EskeRahn]

Attachments are outright junk.

Well it depends on the available alternatives, these might be even worse - it all depend on the usage pattern...
If it has not been for the awful Ios, I would most likely have stayed with the solution of an Ip6- and a qwerty slider case - despite it being an "attachment".

[EskeRahn]

Well it sold so well they got rid of it for the S9.

Yes they obviously did not sell in volumes enough for Samsung to care about.
But despite never seen an ad for any of these I would not be surprised if they have sold amounts comparable to BB...

Of course it is a clumsy solution, but if the alternative is no keyboard at all, or taking up a third of the surface area all the time, it could be interesting for those of us that feels the need for a full size display. For my usage pattern it would clearly be worse than a slider like a Priv II, but still better than a Key½.

[EskeRahn]

Yes, they are using the screen, but the devices enter a special mode for it (note the two soft keys on the first image), so it is not just reacting with the usual touch-keyboard.

And yes, unfortunately they have NOT used transparent plastic (as reviews on Samsungs site tell). If they had, it would have been so easy to provide backlight using the display.

Actually it is NOT just reacting with the display mechanically, as I thought too, so must be using NFC for powering and communication (EDIT: ) capacitively interacts with the display - and that also explains why it is not just transparent for lighting the keys. Ordered one out of curiosity (and they delivered it really quickly).
The keys have a movement quite like the ones on the priv, and are about the size of the keys of the Priv, BUT turned in portrait

The combo is about 13mm thick at the thickest including the case.
(the top of the keys is about 3mm above the display)
....and yeah, I ought to have dusted the Priv before the photo

EDIT: Bought more, and have taken one apart, see more images here

[tilchev]

Still using my Priv, would love a second version with updated hardware.

[epoc32]

Still using my Priv, would love a second version with updated hardware.

If it was easy to create a new motherboard for the actual Priv it would be awesome

[EskeRahn]

If it was easy to create a new motherboard for the actual Priv it would be awesome

Yup, updated electronics is all it really needs. keyboard, display and camera are fine.

It would be great if BBmo could update the space-key with the fingerprint reader they use on the key½. but not a showstopper. Some face recognition that actually works also in poor light would do just as fine.

[the_boon]

Yup, updated electronics is all it really needs. keyboard, display and camera are fine.

It would be great if BBmo could update the space-key with the fingerprint reader they use on the key½. but not a showstopper. Some face recognition that actually works also in poor light would do just as fine.

Lol I'd vote for the other way around. I want BBMo to copy the Priv's keyboard design for future devices.

Why, you may ask? See my thread below

/blackberry-keyone-f445/why-pkb-can-have-ip-rating-1142880/

[EskeRahn]

Lol I'd vote for the other way around. I want BBMo to copy the Priv's keyboard design for future devices.

Why, you may ask? See my thread below

/blackberry-keyone-f445/why-pkb-can-have-ip-rating-1142880/

Well even if the keyboard is water resistant, the rest of the Priv most likely is not, so won't make much of a difference as a whole I guess.
Of course it would be better with an in display fingerprint reader, but then we would most likely be talking substantial changes.

[the_boon]

Well even if the keyboard is water resistant, the rest of the Priv most likely is not, so won't make much of a difference as a whole I guess.
Of course it would be better with an in display fingerprint reader, but then we would most likely be talking substantial changes.

Of course the Priv itself isn't waterproof lol, it's got the worst form factor for that.

I meant TCL should use the Priv's PKB design style (1 single rubber piece) and base their next device PKB on it, to give us the IP rating.

The benefits? (Besides blocking water)

1 single piece is always more reliable than 30 different ones

Easier to manufacture and keep track of

Impossible for any key to become loose or fall off


To me, it's so obvious that this is the logical step to take that I don't know why it hasn't been done on the KEY devices yet.

I seriously have to bring this idea to someone at BB Mobile.

[cmdaga]

I most definitely want a PRIV 2. I totally demand a PRIV 2. 100%. PRIV could have been the BlackBerry I would use for years if not for the faulty Snapdragon 808. Else, every other part about the phone was beautiful!

[onysi]

i came to the forums to add my two cent to this. i want my priv2. godamnit, they keep remaking Key 2 with KEY2 LE. I get it, youre reusing the hardware and putting cheaper components. You can do the same for Priv 2. re-use the outside hardware but change the components. TCL. This is 13 pages of passionate priv 2 owners. Istill use mine. ive already paid for it finally after 2 years and im still using it going on 4th year. i refuse to upgrade to KEy phone. I need my physical keyboard hidden. i want a long stretched out phone like Priv 2. I still feel privileged, with it when people look at me with their ****ty iphones.

Lets all email TCL and bug them.

[the_boon]

i came to the forums to add my two cent to this. i want my priv2. godamnit, they keep remaking Key 2 with KEY2 LE. I get it, youre reusing the hardware and putting cheaper components. You can do the same for Priv 2. re-use the outside hardware but change the components. TCL. This is 13 pages of passionate priv 2 owners. Istill use mine. ive already paid for it finally after 2 years and im still using it going on 4th year. i refuse to upgrade to KEy phone. I need my physical keyboard hidden. i want a long stretched out phone like Priv 2. I still feel privileged, with it when people look at me with their ****ty iphones.

Lets all email TCL and bug them.

13 pages of hardcore Priv fans?

E-mail TCL to bug them?

ROTFL

Let them build momentum and stability with the KEY line first, and then MAYBE they'll consider a more complex design such as a slider.

[teodd]

I've been waiting for a priv 2 I like the full screen pkb combination. I think the full screen is more important to me in the end so if nothing comes out before my priv dies I may be forced to go non blackberry for the first time since 03. It's sad to think it but they aren't leaving me much choice. Other features important to me, high-end SOC, wireless charging, SD slot, headphone jack, slimport or equivalent. The priv checks all of these boxes except processor is dated.

I've been doing research and the only phones that get close to checking all the boxes are the G7 and S9 leaning towards the G7 because of my stubbornness to go with the crowd.

[the_boon]

I've been waiting for a priv 2 I like the full screen pkb combination. I think the full screen is more important to me in the end so if nothing comes out before my priv dies I may be forced to go non blackberry for the first time since 03. It's sad to think it but they aren't leaving me much choice. Other features important to me, high-end SOC, wireless charging, SD slot, headphone jack, slimport or equivalent. The priv checks all of these boxes except processor is dated.

I've been doing research and the only phones that get close to checking all the boxes are the G7 and S9 leaning towards the G7 because of my stubbornness to go with the crowd.

A full 16:9 or 18/9 screen is more important to you than a keyboard? What BB did you use between around 2012 when touchscreens became the norm till when the Priv launched?

[onysi]

13 pages of hardcore Priv fans?

E-mail TCL to bug them?

ROTFL

Let them build momentum and stability with the KEY line first, and then MAYBE they'll consider a more complex design such as a slider.

ok then, buy me a Key 2. i'm not gonna help them build this momentum and waste my money on something that looks ancient. Priv is perfect because its discreet and unique. u know theyre making these cheap phones to fund Priv probably. i havent seen any high end phones from them in a long time

[TLSTWIN]

Patiently waiting while using my Priv

[bqik]

It would be nice to know how many users keep rocking the Priv.

[macterp]

love my Priv ! 'nuff said...