Blackberry Safeguard and GrSecurity confirmed on the Slider
- Modem (radio) circuits of Snapdragon 810 (MSM 8994) and 808 (MSM 8992) are common, I presume.
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About phone
Model number
STV100-6
Processor info
Qualcomm Technologies, Inc MSM8992
Android version
5.1.1
Baseband version
O.2.5.c11-00011-M8994FAAAANAZM-1
Kernel version
3.10.49-grsec-perf-g7b69651
ec_agent@br605cnc #1
Wed Sep 2 17:42:36 EDT 2015
Build number
AAC450 (master aospl-msm8992 635 qc8992_sfi-user)
09-21-15 12:52 AMLike 0 - Actually I don't see proof of BlackBerry safeguard as the OP and titile says.
Only grsecurity.
BlackBerry safeguard is app sandboxing isn't it? Or permissions control?
Posted via CB1009-22-15 02:53 AMLike 0 - Well, that'll be harder now: http://grsecurity.net/announce.php
Internet detectives point their fingers at Intel, so I guess we should thank them for making things harder for other kernel developers. /s
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Posted via BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition09-22-15 03:59 AMLike 0 - http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threa...public.379263/
Read this thread to find out who! I hope justice is served and I hope BlackBerry is being honourable.
Posted via CB1009-22-15 04:11 AMLike 0 - It wasn't Intel directly. It was a company that Intel acquired. Intel simply backed up the company they acquired.
Posted via BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition09-22-15 05:49 AMLike 0 - I wonder if they read as follows . . .
BlackBerry Safeguard rating poor
Tap to change security features . . .
No SIM card
To connect to the cellular network . . .
Attachment 37250409-22-15 07:11 AMLike 0 -
- I think the main point is that BB is not going to intentionally allow rooting and will react quickly to plug any holes. Being that security is what BB is really focused on, their reputation is at stake and it'd be a PR disaster if a root exploit was found. It's early days and they are retrofitting Android which wasn't designed for security from the ground up, so it won't be easy.
Chen misled people when he said that they would release an Android device if he found a way to make it secure. He implied it was BlackBerry securing it. Taking someone elses security and using it when you are a security company is foolish. You are betting your reputation of security their security, not yours. If something happens and the device is compromised, all the talk will be able BlackBerry phones being hacked, not grSecurity having a hole.09-22-15 07:33 AMLike 3 - Since BlackBerry didn't design the security, they are dependent on someone else to patch any holes. They don't have the knowledge or skill to change the security since they didn't design it.
Chen misled people when he said that they would release an Android device if he found a way to make it secure. He implied it was BlackBerry securing it. Taking someone elses security and using it when you are a security company is foolish. You are betting your reputation of security their security, not yours. If something happens and the device is compromised, all the talk will be able BlackBerry phones being hacked, not grSecurity having a hole.
BlackBerry has spent its time on the Experience Suite and Safeguard, where it probably should have.
Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2639ayngling likes this.09-22-15 07:51 AMLike 1 -
I also wished they miraculously has managed to use QNX underneath instead, but this way is probably better, especially in terms of time to market.09-22-15 08:04 AMLike 0 - Since BlackBerry didn't design the security, they are dependent on someone else to patch any holes. They don't have the knowledge or skill to change the security since they didn't design it.
Chen misled people when he said that they would release an Android device if he found a way to make it secure. He implied it was BlackBerry securing it. Taking someone elses security and using it when you are a security company is foolish. You are betting your reputation of security their security, not yours. If something happens and the device is compromised, all the talk will be able BlackBerry phones being hacked, not grSecurity having a hole.
Posted via CB10/BB PP SE.09-22-15 08:37 AMLike 0 - The thing is for rooting you need physical access to the device. I am 1000 times more scared of remote hacking and exploits than rooting.09-22-15 08:47 AMLike 4
- What? That is the one thing I am convinced they are... It is their single core competency.DaedalusIcarusHelios and astrodan13 like this.09-22-15 09:10 AMLike 2
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Posted via CB10/BB PP SE.09-22-15 09:30 AMLike 0 -
- Security companies build firewalls, antivirus, IPS or system lockdown/ hardening solutions. BlackBerry builds systems and integrates them with security solutions (that it get licensed from security companies). It's like a civil engineer. He knows how to build a secure house (or can hire somebody to do that job for him) but doesn't know how to secure a house that was built by somebody else.09-22-15 10:23 AMLike 0
- Since BlackBerry didn't design the security, they are dependent on someone else to patch any holes. They don't have the knowledge or skill to change the security since they didn't design it.
Chen misled people when he said that they would release an Android device if he found a way to make it secure. He implied it was BlackBerry securing it. Taking someone elses security and using it when you are a security company is foolish. You are betting your reputation of security their security, not yours. If something happens and the device is compromised, all the talk will be able BlackBerry phones being hacked, not grSecurity having a hole.
Security companies build firewalls, antivirus, IPS or system lockdown/ hardening solutions. BlackBerry builds systems and integrates them with security solutions (that it get licensed from security companies). It's like a civil engineer. He knows how to build a secure house (or can hire somebody to do that job for him) but doesn't know how to secure a house that was built by somebody else.
Posted via CB10/BB PP SE.ayngling likes this.09-22-15 12:22 PMLike 1 - They didn't ;-) Still, they decided to adopt it. It's like using WPA2 key for a wifi connection instead of a weak WEP. If you don't know nothing (I mean really nothing)about internet security and call your provider for assistance for your home wifi, a good company will teach their employees to set you up a WPA2 password. A bad provider/company will not or will just tell them to put a WEP(bad move).
Even if way too simplistic, that example explain what BlackBerry is doing. BB didn't "made" GrSecurity, but decided to use it, which SEEMS to be a good move.
If it is definetly rootable or not, we'll never know until it will come out of course but I strongly believe that it is SUPPOSED not to be rootable
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Practically speaking most people have exactly zero legitimate reasons for rooting a phone, which of course will not dampen the complaints.
Posted via CB1009-22-15 01:48 PMLike 0 - Security companies build firewalls, antivirus, IPS or system lockdown/ hardening solutions. BlackBerry builds systems and integrates them with security solutions (that it get licensed from security companies). It's like a civil engineer. He knows how to build a secure house (or can hire somebody to do that job for him) but doesn't know how to secure a house that was built by somebody else.
Posted via CB10/BB PP SE.09-22-15 01:50 PMLike 2 - Since BlackBerry didn't design the security, they are dependent on someone else to patch any holes. They don't have the knowledge or skill to change the security since they didn't design it.
Chen misled people when he said that they would release an Android device if he found a way to make it secure. He implied it was BlackBerry securing it. [b]Taking someone elses security and using it when you are a security company is foolish. [\b]You are betting your reputation of security their security, not yours. If something happens and the device is compromised, all the talk will be able BlackBerry phones being hacked, not grSecurity having a hole.
I'm also guessing, you've not had the pleasure of working with "rockstar" developers.
Posted via CB1009-22-15 03:39 PMLike 0 -
Advanced malware gets into Google Play store twice, possibly 1M downloads - SC Magazine09-22-15 08:31 PMLike 0
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