- theres also the tegra note 7 that came out last month thats got dual speakers.
EVGA Tegra Note 7 review: a gaming tablet with much to offer, much to learn
So if you have used / know someone who uses / know where I can test it / read user opinions about it - please let me know In any case, thanks for reminding me about it - I have added it to my original post in the list of comparison tablets, maybe someone who has it will pop up.01-09-14 10:55 AMLike 0 - You might also look into the HP tablet. It has the Beats audio. Otherwise, not great spec-wise:
Slate 7 Tablet | HP� Official Site
Also, the Sony 10" tab might be worth looking at as Sony has a good rep for audio but rather pricey:
16GB Xperia Tablet Z (Wi-Fi) - SGP311U1/B Review | Sony Store U.S. - Sony US
Ill also try to find them in-store to test (as much as is possible over the din).01-09-14 11:33 AMLike 0 - You might also look into the HP tablet. It has the Beats audio. Otherwise, not great spec-wise:
Slate 7 Tablet | HP� Official Site
Also, the Sony 10" tab might be worth looking at as Sony has a good rep for audio but rather pricey:
16GB Xperia Tablet Z (Wi-Fi) - SGP311U1/B Review | Sony Store U.S. - Sony US
Thank you for the suggestions. Have you had a chance to try them vs your PB ? I'll try to test them in-store (as much as I can over the din).
For any lost musician out there, here's a quick round-up of reviews I read in a 10m google search - Beats Audio - some people like it and some people call it just fancy EQ. I noticed a trend that people who liked it said they used headphones. And yes, aside from possibly good audio, Slate it nothing to write home about. The Sony - people love the tab, some like the speakers, some don't...
So if anyone has actually used these and knows the comparison vs BB PB, do let me know. Because that is where all my in-store tests fail - well. first the in-store noise over which it is hard to tell anything but how loud a tab is vs the other, but also, there is no PB to compare it to!Last edited by j477; 01-09-14 at 01:47 PM.
01-09-14 11:57 AMLike 0 - The PlayBook has The BEST speakers of ANY tablet on the market . Hands down. Inown a PlayBook, a Nexus and Use an iPad for work and I can tell you that the sound quality of the PlayBook is far superior! No contest. Oh yeah, my kids all have Kindle Fires HD and my wife uses the anew HDX and the PlayBook beats them all. Add the dual HD cameras and you can make some decent hour videos.j477 likes this.01-09-14 12:27 PMLike 1
- Thank you for the suggestions. Have you had a chance to try them vs your PB ? I'll try to test them in-store (as much as I can over the din).
For any lost musician out there, here's a quick round-up of reviews I read in a 10m google search - Beats Audio - some people like it and some people call it just fancy EQ. I noticed a trend that people who liked it said they used headphones. And yes, aside from possibly good audio, Slate it nothing to write home about. The Sony - people love the tab, some like the speakers, some don't...
So if anyone has actually used these and knows the comparison vs BB PB, do let me know. Because that is where all my in-store tests fail - well. first the in-store noise over which it is hard to tell anything but how loud a tab is vs the other, but also, there is no PB to compare it to!01-09-14 02:34 PMLike 0 -
For well over a year I have been leaning my PlayBook against my bathroom window and uPnP streaming my music while in the shower. It's awesome (and the condensation hasn't even harmed it!).
Posted via CB1001-09-14 02:45 PMLike 0 - LOL. I'm not sure the PB is the "loudest". Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by "sound quality". It is hard to explain but the PB has a great tone to it. Not tinny but rich and vibrant. I think you will need to get one to compare for yourself. Try to find a place that will accept returns. Audio is a personal taste and I don't think you can go by reviews too much.01-09-14 03:13 PMLike 0
- Thank you for the help! Just to confirm - this is the older generation Kindle Fire HD you are comparing it to ? i.e. the one at this link: Kindle Fire HD Tablet [Previous Generation]
That would be the one. It has good speakers but comparatively the PB has richer sounds.
Also - since you are a musician, any recommendations for good portable bluetooth speakers and this is not a dealbreaker but as a bonus - any good apps for making / listening to music - like grooveshark / itanpura on ipad ? Doesn't matter if not, speaker quality is what I'm after but would be nice bonus!
Listening to music on the PlayBook or any of the OS 10 devices is something that you can improve by using neutron player. I love having the ability to play around and get what I want from a sound. I record only voice snippets on the PB (simple with the voicenotes app) but all my editing and other serious tasks are taken care of on either my iMac or my MacBookPro via GarageBand. If you are Mac-based, those have worked best for me (haven't really looked for anything else, since I am not making money off of the music yet . If you are PC-based, I can look at some stuff that I have on my old Dell that I used before Mac'ing up
As for Bluetooth speakers, I'm using the WOWEE Gel Audio one. It was a gift from a friend, but it is amazing how much bass the gel manges to transmit to the surface , just bliss. For it's size, it does pack a punch. I think I saw it online for about 100$ (don't know how much you want to pay)
LP&HGLast edited by ghundiraj; 01-09-14 at 09:17 PM. Reason: added speaker information
01-09-14 09:12 PMLike 0 - Thanks very much! This is the Nexus 7 2nd gen with the "Fraunhofer" surround sound they are touting ?
(Yes, I really wish I could hear them all for myself but 2 are no longer available in stores and hearing only the Nexus 7 in-store over the din doesn't tell me much. I'm hoping hearing other users' opinions will save me the trouble of buying and returning things.)01-09-14 11:42 PMLike 0 - As far as I know, Beats Audio is merely a brand under the auspices of Dr Dre. The assumption would be that he brings about as much tech know-how as Ashton Kuchener at Lenovo. In fact, you are getting less value, because some of your investment has gone towards paying a celebrity to be associated, rather than research. But, ooh, look at the pretty celebrity.Deckard79 likes this.01-10-14 11:22 AMLike 1
- IMO the Kindle Fire Hd has better highs, everything else is about equal. You'd have to make sure to turn the Hd around to make the speakers "front facing" to get that full effect though..01-12-14 05:03 PMLike 0
- As far as I know, Beats Audio is merely a brand under the auspices of Dr Dre. The assumption would be that he brings about as much tech know-how as Ashton Kuchener at Lenovo. In fact, you are getting less value, because some of your investment has gone towards paying a celebrity to be associated, rather than research. But, ooh, look at the pretty celebrity.01-12-14 05:05 PMLike 0
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My wife's netbook has 'Beats' audio, yet contains the exact same audio chipset as can be found on any cheap laptop motherboard, and utterly unremarkable speakers which produce a standard of output far below the PlayBook's.
In a nutshell, the 'Beats' logo means precisely nothing. Sorry folks.
Posted via CB1001-12-14 05:16 PMLike 0 - Then call out Beats Electronics. To suggest Dre is just some celebrity moron equivalent to Austin Kucher at Lenovo is short sighted and just plain moronic. I'm pretty sure he can suggest a chipset but that doesn't mean Beats will listen when all they are concerned about is their bottom line.
Posted via CB1001-12-14 05:24 PMLike 0 -
My original response was not to you. It was more about equating Dre to Aston Kucher at Lenovo.01-12-14 05:42 PMLike 0 - PlayBook is LOUD! Wow it surprised me, I think it's louder than the first gen fire hd, seriously. Quality, I'll have to report on a comparison later but so far it seems to be edging out on top
Posted via CB1001-14-14 11:18 PMLike 0 - I have at one point or another used all of these tablets and the Galaxy Note 10.1 as well (which does have front facing speakers) and I still say that the PlayBook is the best when it comes to sound volume and clarity. It totally smokes my Note 10.1 in both as well.01-14-14 11:35 PMLike 0
- If you are interested in sound quality then you should only be thinking of playing uncompressed files (FLAC, WAV, etc). Even on the PB's speakers the difference is noticeable. Played on a decent stereo system it is glaringly obvious. Also use the Neutron music player, which is an audiophile app which replays music to a far higher quality than the built-in music player. I can't comment on the PlayBook comparison with other tablets because I haven't used any. But remember that as with all music systems, the source and playback device/programme is more important than speakers. As with a car and home stereo, a really good head unit/turntable/CD player and good amplifier will make even the cheapest speakers sound wonderful. That's not to say that good speakers are not important, they are, but you won't turn crap input into wonderful sound by buying expensive speakers to mate up to a cheap, rubbish music source. It will just make your crap music source sound even worse.
For example - the complexity of the waveform being converted (complex Jazz tends to convert less effectively than, say, folk).
The codec being used for lossy compression, and the encoder software are important factors.
Bitrates are also an important factor.
Dynamic range of source is an equally important factor.
I am an audiophile - I own Linn equipement, and built my own speakers from component parts. In most instances I am unable to recognise any difference between a 256k/bit WMA file and cd source in blind testing (and I even know exactly what to listen for).
Some audiophiles claim to have a 'golden ear' with an ability to pick up differences in sound quality and determine what is better. However, almost all are disproved with proper scientific tests. The human ear is very imprecise and unreliable. Furthermore, expectation bias makes accurate determination of sound quality even more of a minefield.
Unless lossy files use terrible bitrates or have been encoded poorly, the quality of DAC, amplifier and most of all speakers are the important determining factors in sound quality.
Anyone claiming otherwise, I challenge you to prove it.
Posted via CB1001-15-14 08:05 AMLike 0 - Just to make a final point on this thread jack, he is actually a founder of Beats Electronics. I should have said they have no control over the chipset or hardware the manufacturer who licenses their software product (which is basically a pre-set equalizer) ultimately uses.
My original response was not to you. It was more about equating Dre to Aston Kucher at Lenovo.
I have done music production also, but I did it on a workstation using reference speakers, in soundproofed rooms filled with exotic audio equipment. Not some crappy laptop with tinny speakers. ie Beats audio. But Dre uses them so they must be good, right? If he does use them. He does not use them.01-15-14 08:24 AMLike 0 - I use my PB for videoing my guitar playing so I can see where I am going wrong. The PB is excellent, both video and audio. Shame about the playing.
I also have a no-name cheapo tablet that sounds dire and a GoClever (from Poland, I believe) which does all sorts of things such as having an aerial that you pull up to watch digital TV and a transmitter for sending audio to the car radio. Its audio is OK, but not a patch on the PB.
There are Android apps to carry "printed" music which are used quite a bit by people I know. You really need a large tablet for that and some means (eg foot pedal) for the page turning although maybe you don't if you are "just" a singer..01-15-14 12:24 PMLike 0 - Thanks very much for the tips. If you have them handy, yes, please do share what you did on PC. I don't produce my own stuff but always good to know how to do it - so one knows the "expert" is doing it correctly or can add ones own twist to whatever the "usual" is.
Money may come collaterally but Music --- it's not something you do for the moneyghundiraj likes this.01-15-14 12:35 PMLike 1 -
If you do get to try an 8.9 in quiet - let me know what you think about its sound overall and vs PB.01-15-14 12:44 PMLike 0 - Thanks. When you say "better highs", do you mean louder volume or less distortion on the top notes ? Although if the PB is close enough, it wins because I don't want to have to keep turning the tablet around and around.01-15-14 12:51 PMLike 0
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I had almost convinced myself to get both and compare - but I don't want to get into the whole return hassle - esp since BB PB is only available from 3rd party sellers now and most of them mumble about various fees and conditions when questioned about their return policy.01-15-14 12:57 PMLike 0 - I use my PB for videoing my guitar playing so I can see where I am going wrong. The PB is excellent, both video and audio. Shame about the playing.
I also have a no-name cheapo tablet that sounds dire and a GoClever (from Poland, I believe) which does all sorts of things such as having an aerial that you pull up to watch digital TV and a transmitter for sending audio to the car radio. Its audio is OK, but not a patch on the PB.
There are Android apps to carry "printed" music which are used quite a bit by people I know. You really need a large tablet for that and some means (eg foot pedal) for the page turning although maybe you don't if you are "just" a singer..
Yes, "just" a singer here I carry my lyrics on my Kindle e-ink reader which I much prefer to the lit screen on tablets. Also - I must be missing something - how do you turn pages on a tablet using a foot pedal ?01-15-14 01:06 PMLike 0
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