- i love reading stuff like this, and the word workhorse is spot on.
apple has completely brainwashed ppl, they spend tons of money on advertising. yet when you break it down to the actual apple product in your hands the bb/pb is far superior of a product.
i know i went on a tangent but i needed to vent.
And I don't want to hear this is all because of "Apple brainwashed people and advertisement" type of argument again, which is simply ignoring reality.
PB has to appeal to general public to sell and RIM needs to make money off by selling it, sooner than later.
Even in this story, iPad was out of choice due to size. I want to hear people choosing PB for its strong points besides obvious reasons - performance, feature, app selection.01-27-12 08:32 AMLike 0 -
- @rotorwrench I have a suggestion: Take your Playbook (if you have one or borrow) to your next appointment, record a video of your and the offices expiriences with the PB and sell it to RIM so that they can use it as a commercial. The most frustrating thing about the PB is that its features, and sometimes existence is a secret.CDM76 likes this.01-27-12 08:48 AMLike 1
- when it comes to blackberry,some people cant see the forest through the trees(iphone android).azrin640 and PoJoTheCrooked like this.01-27-12 08:59 AMLike 2
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And, when I say "actively promote", I mean giving PlayBooks at a discount to companies that develop customized apps or field/industry specific apps that are sold on the market place. Once you get your foot in the door, then more PlayBooks would be bought as well as BB phones, BES, subscriptions, etc....01-27-12 09:51 AMLike 0 - Thanks for sharing this! I'll have to tell my family members who are doctors. They might want to consider the same approach!rotorwrench likes this.01-27-12 09:58 AMLike 1
- I'm actually working on an app for a private medical clinic that will be used for their patients' yearly checkup.
I've already done a few tests with them and so far they're loving what it can do and how they can do things much more efficiently so they're already planning on adding more apps.
They have 5 PlayBooks so far but I know they'll be getting more!01-27-12 10:33 AMLike 4 - While it is good to hear some markets see PB as better product for certain uses (I agree 7" portability + dedicated apps will do the job for doctors/nurses), it HAS to extend to general public.
And I don't want to hear this is all because of "Apple brainwashed people and advertisement" type of argument again, which is simply ignoring reality.
PB has to appeal to general public to sell and RIM needs to make money off by selling it, sooner than later.
Even in this story, iPad was out of choice due to size. I want to hear people choosing PB for its strong points besides obvious reasons - performance, feature, app selection .
I agree with you 100% on the other. Whereas RIM's main niche and primary focus used to be enterprise and business, to stay viable, it needs to make more effort to appeal to the general consumer, through stronger advertising campaigns, which is where Apple has excelled,and as much as I hate to admit it, additional general consumer features. Which I think RIM is starting to do.PatrickMJS likes this.01-27-12 10:51 AMLike 1 - The BB phone took off because it first took over the work place. It didn't keep the lead because it lagged behind on the sparkle. I believe if RIM were to actively promote the PlayBook as a work place tool (which is their goal), then people will take it from the office to the home.
And, when I say "actively promote", I mean giving PlayBooks at a discount to companies that develop customized apps or field/industry specific apps that are sold on the market place. Once you get your foot in the door, then more PlayBooks would be bought as well as BB phones, BES, subscriptions, etc....
Apples and oranges, man. Apples and oranges.01-27-12 10:58 AMLike 0 -
I don't find performance deciding factor or advantage over iPad. They are both equally good at that. UI of OS is subjective, but I must agree PB's UI is very well done, but I don't know if that will be such a critical factor.01-27-12 11:02 AMLike 0 - The BB phone took off because it first took over the work place. It didn't keep the lead because it lagged behind on the sparkle. I believe if RIM were to actively promote the PlayBook as a work place tool (which is their goal), then people will take it from the office to the home.
And, when I say "actively promote", I mean giving PlayBooks at a discount to companies that develop customized apps or field/industry specific apps that are sold on the market place. Once you get your foot in the door, then more PlayBooks would be bought as well as BB phones, BES, subscriptions, etc....
The scary trend is that many companies are now offering non-BB phones to employees. Our company has begun doing that, offering both BB and iPhones for business use and many (if not all) are choosing iPhones.
What this means is RIM cannot rely on PB + BB bridging configuration as main driver for PB in corporate market. PB needs to become a complete solution by itself, which is what OS 2.0 is supposed to address.
Advertisements will help, but as it stands there's not much to show without bridge setup. Looking forward to refreshed advertisements with OS 2.0 though.01-27-12 11:10 AMLike 0 - RIM needs to know about such success stories - I am sure many of their employees read these threads.
I would love to see RIM actively encourage businesses in this way (discounts and/or developer assistance) and to advertise/market such successes which would be a great start to changing public perception of RIM and the Playbook.01-27-12 11:20 AMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorThe main apps called HIS (Hospital Information System) such as used in clinics and hospitals can easily converted to run on QNX since it is usually based on HTML5. No adjustment needed.
So the hospital converted the application to run on playbook which is connected to their server.
If I am not mistaken a few company like the insurance company and a lot more did this, also I see the future in its usage.
Finally, there we are ...
Business, safety, reliability ... and apps from anywhere ...
Loved it !
Thanks to the OP and U.azrin640 likes this.01-27-12 11:27 AMLike 1 - Unfortunately, the only thing post stated was "there were other concerns". If they were the security through bridge, of course iPad would be out of question. If the security through bridge was a *requirement*, they have no choice except PB.
I don't find performance deciding factor or advantage over iPad. They are both equally good at that. UI of OS is subjective, but I must agree PB's UI is very well done, but I don't know if that will be such a critical factor.
What I have personally seen and think is important for RIM to address, is the reaction of people who have used another tablet and then tried the PB. People are surprised at how much they like it, and question why they've never tried one before or heard more about them. There are also those that prefer what they have, but I've seen more of the former.
I recommend to anyone who asks me, to try them all, read reviews, research and then decide what fits your needs most. I have loaned my PB out quite often, and the most common result has been a new PB purchase for RIM.01-27-12 11:39 AMLike 0 - RIM needs to know about such success stories - I am sure many of their employees read these threads.
I would love to see RIM actively encourage businesses in this way (discounts and/or developer assistance) and to advertise/market such successes which would be a great start to changing public perception of RIM and the Playbook.01-27-12 11:41 AMLike 0 - The scary trend is that many companies are now offering non-BB phones to employees. Our company has begun doing that, offering both BB and iPhones for business use and many (if not all) are choosing iPhones.
What this means is RIM cannot rely on PB + BB bridging configuration as main driver for PB in corporate market. PB needs to become a complete solution by itself, which is what OS 2.0 is supposed to address.
So, here comes Mobile Fusion. We can put the execs iOS or Android equipment on the network so that they access what they need, with their own phone. However, if they need a company application, then they have to get a BB. And with the BB 7.1 devices, we can offer mobile hotspots to their laptop if needed.
I think it all comes down to the "sparkle" with the execs. If I were to show them one of our graphical dashboards running the 50" tv off of the PlayBook and remotely controlled by a BB phone, they would drop their other phones immediately in the trash.Mattman3234 and CDM76 like this.01-27-12 01:00 PMLike 2 - And with Balance, you can keep secure or proprietary data separate from personal, which will allow BES administrators to not be put in the position of tyrants by having to lock down phones and PBs. It will be nice to be able to have some personal apps on our BES phones.01-27-12 05:42 PMLike 0
- LOL I'll admit I call them names sometimes, but it's not them so much as what we're restricted to because of security requirements. Balance is the only way to securely manage sensitive and personal data on the phone and PB without conflicts, as explained to me. Its a common problem with any phone on enterprise if security is an issue.01-27-12 06:12 PMLike 0
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