Please explain PB psychology to me: priority wifi vs bridge
- I happened to notice this morning when I had both PB and Torch at my side that whenever I did a manoeuvre with the PB that required the internet, my Torch activated like crazy (you know the in and out arrow on the top right corner of the screen), even though my PB wifi showed 2 or 3 bars, so perfect connectivity.
Why on earth did it not select the wifi pathway and instead sollicitated my Torch via bridge for downloading?
03-31-13 10:25 AMLike 0 - Your wifi may have been acting up at the time. If your Torch was also on wifi and had a good connection, the PlayBook would have used the wifi connection of the Torch rather than cellular data. It is a less known feature that you can put your phone in a spot with better wifi signal and then use bridge to get data to the PlayBook.
Another thing to keep in mind is the signal indicator on the PlayBook Is not live, only updated now and then. To get a live signal strength you need to go into wifi status.CommanderElvis likes this.03-31-13 12:05 PMLike 1 - Wifi was kind of acting up actually. I did a factory reset on my router a couple of days ago and it was sort of fine and better until that episode, but I'll have to be more attentive. I was told Belkin is no good. I may have to change it...
But as I said, the PB showed an ok connection. 2 or 3 bars. Usual for my home connection. That's why I figured it was strange that it was not using it... It did not warn me in any way that wifi wasn't good.
That's kind of annoying because when you don't notice it, you could end up using data from your plan when the phone doesn't hook to wifi for some reason...03-31-13 12:14 PMLike 0 - Wifi was kind of acting up actually. I did a factory reset on my router a couple of days ago and it was sort of fine and better until that episode, but I'll have to be more attentive. I was told Belkin is no good. I may have to change it...
But as I said, the PB showed an ok connection. 2 or 3 bars. Usual for my home connection. That's why I figured it was strange that it was not using it... It did not warn me in any way that wifi wasn't good.
That's kind of annoying because when you don't notice it, you could end up using data from your plan when the phone doesn't hook to wifi for some reason...
WayneLast edited by Ozfork; 03-31-13 at 06:01 PM.
03-31-13 05:51 PMLike 0 - Actually, I'm not willing to disable Wi-Fi Protected Setup on the router... It's actually set to WPA/WPA2-Personal (PSK) and it's been working not too bad with all devices except PB upto now, which is why I figured it is on the PB I have to concentrate. How would you go about without WPS Ozfork if you had 8 close neighbours? Maybe I just don't understand what you mean by WPS though. It could be another setting you are talking about. Thanks for sharing anyway, I'm sure it could apply to someone else.
@robsteve: Just noticed your comment about wifi status. Can you tell me where to find signal strength? I can actually get this wifi info right now:
signal level: -70 dBm (there's a minus sign here)
connection data rate: 54 Mbps
Is this the figures you are talking about?
Is this acceptable figures for the PB?
Also, I've been thinking that the novelty here is that I started using Slacker radio as recently as yesterday. Could it be that the streaming is taking up the wifi connection and that the PB uses bridge to do the rest? This could be foolish, does it show that I know nothing about the technicalities of networking hey!
Finally, someone mentioned texting. Triggered my curiosity. Why could it matter?
edit: Doing some tests right now. Listening to a CBC Radio playlist, and arrow on phone was acting (but rather quietly), but music didn't stop when I turned all phone connections off - Mobile, Wifi and BT. Song number 2 just started and it's running without gaps. One figure changed, I read -63 dBm now as wifi info on PB, but I think it had gone down before I switched the phone connections off.
I am really wondering how the PB chooses which connection to use guys. Does it give priority to wifi always? Does it switch to bridge if wifi fails? And when it bridges, does it use the phone's wifi to retrieve the info, or the phone company network connection? I don't mind doing some reading if someone has a web page which explains this to recommend to me.Last edited by purple_bb; 03-31-13 at 09:15 PM.
03-31-13 08:58 PMLike 0 - Actually, I'm not willing to disable Wi-Fi Protected Setup on the router... It's actually set to WPA/WPA2-Personal (PSK) and it's been working not too bad with all devices except PB upto now, which is why I figured it is on the PB I have to concentrate. How would you go about without WPS Ozfork if you had 8 close neighbours? Maybe I just don't understand what you mean by WPS though. It could be another setting you are talking about. Thanks for sharing anyway, I'm sure it could apply to someone else.
Wayne04-01-13 01:03 AMLike 0 -
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I guess I like things complicated!
Yeah, this avatar is something... it's the Febreze part of it that is puzzling... you MUST have shares in the company!04-01-13 09:01 AMLike 0 - All right but this arrow was so frantic (talking 'bout OP) I figured it was doing more than just the routine txt/email checking, which I realize must be done once in a while...
5k? You mean 5000 messages on CB do you? They must change product, whatever the story. I sneeze just reading the name of the company!04-01-13 09:38 AMLike 0 - Finally, someone mentioned texting. Triggered my curiosity. Why could it matter?
That data would be moving just over your local network so no worries about carrier charges.purple_bb likes this.04-01-13 09:44 AMLike 1 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterAll right but this arrow was so frantic (talking 'bout OP) I figured it was doing more than just the routine txt/email checking, which I realize must be done once in a while...
5k? You mean 5000 messages on CB do you? They must change product, whatever the story. I sneeze just reading the name of the company!04-01-13 09:47 AMLike 0 - Now here's something interesting, the kind of info I was after. It's elegant because this explains that.
But what about speed though? I read once on CB that bridge internet is slower than wifi because it's limited by BT speed. So this wifi exchange between PB and phone would be faster?
edit: And further, does this mean my PB knows that the phone wifi is more efficient and decides to use it? That would be good news, it would compensate for the PB's weakness with wifi...04-01-13 09:50 AMLike 0 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterNow here's something interesting, the kind of info I was after. It's elegant because this explains that.
But what about speed though? I read once on CB that bridge internet is slower than wifi because it's limited by BT speed. So this wifi exchange between PB and phone would be faster?04-01-13 09:54 AMLike 0 - Now here's something interesting, the kind of info I was after. It's elegant because this explains that.
But what about speed though? I read once on CB that bridge internet is slower than wifi because it's limited by BT speed. So this wifi exchange between PB and phone would be faster?
The connection priority on the PB would go like this: Wifi-phone Wifi-phone carrier connection. You can test this yourself by streaming music or video and turning of different connections.04-01-13 09:57 AMLike 0 - The PB is using its own wifi if turned on and connected. If for some reason the PB wifi connection is lost it will use the wifi on the phone over bridge. If that's not available it will use the carrier connection over bridge.
I was just texting with someone and saw the same activity arrows you mentioned. Just opening the text message app on the PB makes the arrows go. When the text messages stopped so did the arrows for the most part.04-01-13 10:16 AMLike 0 - After one of the updates BBRY added bridge Wifi. Not exactly sure how it works but according to BlackBerry it will allow data to be transferred over wifi when your connected to bridge and Wifi is on both devices. That may explain why you see more activity on your phone.
That data would be moving just over your local network so no worries about carrier charges.04-01-13 11:07 AMLike 0 -
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