- UNLESS the device has a cellular radio (basically a cell phone or 3g or equivalent), it canNOT have a-gps. A REAL gps (not any cell phone type) only gets its signals from satellites way up in the sky! Those signals are weak. Even wet trees can block those signals. Newer REAL gps units can sometimes get signals in less ideal situations but they can only do so much.
Inside acquisition of signals is just hard. But I agree getting them inside, in advance of leaving the house, is very handy and warming. I do tend to fire up BB Traffic on my bb phone while still at home but, again, it is being ASSISTED in those conditions. Sometimes my Tomtom can get signals inside but often it cannot.
No one can fairly compare a cell phone with a-gps with a device that is solely a gps. You can fairly compare one real gps device with another - that is a fair comparison.
I just tried on My Samsung tab and it located me within 2 seconds indoors.
Congratulations again to the Crackberry "geniuses of geniuses" who made me stay half an hour outdoors on my balcony on a winter night, in order to get satellite connection.
.10-29-12 09:59 AMLike 0 - I certainly do. Here ya go: Blackberry Playbook Travel and Leisure Apps | Good e-Reader Android APP Store - Playbook App MarketAT_Nepal likes this.10-29-12 10:09 AMLike 1
- dugggggg, do you have any way we could prove that claim? I'm not aware of any API which is available to us as developers which would let us supply downloaded ephemeris data that way, and I'm not aware of anything that says the system will do that itself. I've never observed any behavior which suggests this actually occurs with those apps or any other, for that matter.
Regarding observed behavior, I use BlackBerry Bridge 99.9% of the time and traveled widely last summer. When OS 2.0 cut off Bing Maps' access via Bridge, MapApp was no longer able to get a prompt fix----I gave up after several frustrating minutes. The PB's GPS was effectively dead to me. But with 2.1 restoring Bridge access to Bing Maps, MapApp once again works well.10-29-12 10:38 AMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorInteresting. I live in the far north of Canada, where GPS can start getting spotty. I just launched the Bing maps app in my office (ground floor of a 3 story concrete/steel building) and got a fix on my position immediately.
Of course, the crappy app then locked up my PB and I needed a restart, but the GPS worked beautifully.jmd.aKBar likes this.10-29-12 01:19 PMLike 1 - Not so - READ more carefully. Simply stating a fact. Actually I was marveling at the way Google maps works. I don't have Google maps on my 64GB Playbook so I can not compare how the two tablets work with it. Since the Nexus7 is a Google device it could have an advantage for this particular use.10-29-12 01:41 PMLike 0
- Not so - READ more carefully. Simply stating a fact. Actually I was marveling at the way Google maps works. I don't have Google maps on my 64GB Playbook so I can not compare how the two tablets work with it. Since the Nexus7 is a Google device it could have an advantage for this particular use.10-29-12 02:03 PMLike 0
- I have GM on my PB. I was astonished how fast it locked-in my route under a test. I have the flagship Android phone, a Samsung Galaxy S3, that isn't even as fast as my PB for gaining a lock. And when I tested it, I was inside a house where my Android phones generally have a hard time getting a lock.10-29-12 02:25 PMLike 0
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I just hope RIM makes the most convenient nav function for BB10 devices, whatever technology that happens to be. When I drove a thousand miles from home in an emergency to retrieve my brother because of a medical emergency, I used my Galaxy S3 for navigation and it performed flawlessly and perfectly reliably. It performed so well that it impressed my brother, who is a long-haul trucker and uses the best, dedicated sat systems.
Let RIM make a nav system that is convenient and reliable, no matter the tech behind it.10-29-12 02:47 PMLike 0 - I don't think it's luck. I just gave it another try. I booted the nav function of GM, it took a few seconds to get a location - its current location - and then tapped my destination. In about 3 seconds it was talking to me; giving me voice direction. Sadly, though, as I left it alone to type this, it lost GPS signal and hasn't recovered it.
I just hope RIM makes the most convenient nav function for BB10 devices, whatever technology that happens to be. When I drove a thousand miles from home in an emergency to retrieve my brother because of a medical emergency, I used my Galaxy S3 for navigation and it performed flawlessly and perfectly reliably. It performed so well that it impressed my brother, who is a long-haul trucker and uses the best, dedicated sat systems.
Let RIM make a nav system that is convenient and reliable, no matter the tech behind it.
The GPS is technologically inferior to an aGPS, so the only other option if you don't believe in luck is the circumstances surrounding the test. Glad your GPS works great though.10-29-12 03:32 PMLike 0 - Hmmm...I would have figured aGPS would be inferior to an actual full-fledged GPS chip. Technically it may be, but in usage I can see aGPS being better since it would tend to be more reliable at maintaining navigational direction because of being able to supplement any under-performance of the device-to-Satelite signal with a data stream. And from my understanding, GPS chips in systems using aGPS are weaker and inferior to a dedicated, stand-alone GPS chip like those used in professional navigation devices.10-29-12 03:41 PMLike 0
- Hmmm...I would have figured aGPS would be inferior to an actual full-fledged GPS chip. Technically it may be, but in usage I can see aGPS being better since it would tend to be more reliable at maintaining navigational direction because of being able to supplement any under-performance of the device-to-Satelite signal with a data stream. And from my understanding, GPS chips in systems using aGPS are weaker and inferior to a dedicated, stand-alone GPS chip like those used in professional navigation devices.10-29-12 04:56 PMLike 0
- There's no difference in the GPS chip. How could aGPS be inferior? It's exactly the same as a normal GPS, except with the added benefit of being able to triangulate your position using cell towers. It's not any more accurate once it's locked, but it is able to lock on faster.10-29-12 05:09 PMLike 0
- Guys, I will admit I don't understand the way GPS works at all, I just know it works. Kinda like the light in the fridge, how does that guy not freeze to death? Anyways....
When BB10 comes out, is it possible that it will actually make the GPS work the way it is supposed to? Or is this more on the hardware related side of things? Thanks.jmd.aKBar likes this.10-29-12 05:10 PMLike 1 - Guys, I will admit I don't understand the way GPS works at all, I just know it works. Kinda like the light in the fridge, how does that guy not freeze to death? Anyways....
When BB10 comes out, is it possible that it will actually make the GPS work the way it is supposed to? Or is this more on the hardware related side of things? Thanks.mud314 likes this.10-29-12 05:29 PMLike 1 -
Actually, no. You're right, the playbook has the best gps in existence. I'm sick of ridiculous arguments with people grasping at the tiniest straws.10-29-12 05:34 PMLike 0 -
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- Magellan doesn't use Google Maps anymore because you are not allowed to have offline maps with it. It now uses another service, I believe it's called OpenMaps, and it let's you store maps offline so you can travel without needing a network connection.Tha.Housewife and Marty_LK like this.10-29-12 05:58 PMLike 2
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Swing and a miss slugger, but thanks for coming out to play.jmd.aKBar likes this.10-29-12 06:48 PMLike 1
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