Playbook BB10 Update - Why is Kevin and co silent ?
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I'm more than happy for BB to take my words as a direct challenge and prove me wrong.
The most recent example of this is his "tablets dead in 5 years" statement, and the BB follow-up that "Thor wasn't talking about playbook. We still haven't determined our playbook strategy, and we'll let you know when we have".
He's a hopeless communicator, but again that's simply my opinion. Your opinion of Thor obviously differs, but neither of us is "wrong".05-19-13 07:11 AMLike 7 - So, we'll see. Seven months.
I'm more than happy for BB to take my words as a direct challenge and prove me wrong.
Actually, I believe Heins to be the worst CEO communicator I've ever heard. He has terrible stage presence, rarely answers a direct question with a direct answer, on taking over as CEO was initially quoted as saying that he didn't actually see much wrong with RIM as a company, and I've rarely seen any of his reported statements since that aren't rapidly followed-up by a BB statement distancing itself from his words or claiming that he'd been misinterpreted.
The most recent example of this is his "tablets dead in 5 years" statement, and the BB follow-up that "Thor wasn't talking about playbook. We still haven't determined our playbook strategy, and we'll let you know when we have".
He's a hopeless communicator, but again that's simply my opinion. Your opinion of Thor obviously differs, but neither of us is "wrong".
Me thinks the gearbox between his brain and his mouth is fully automatic transmission instead of being the better selectronic version!JeepBB and NoodlesMcFilthy like this.05-19-13 07:25 AMLike 2 - So here is a front page summary article on one of the two sessions at the conference that mentioned a tablet.
What does the article below suggest about developer tools for bb10--would they include a playbook or not?
One app three devices: Helping webworks developers build applications for multiple form factors | CrackBerry.com05-19-13 07:32 AMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorWhile I think Thorsten could use a little media coaching, and I'll even agree he's not always completely direct in his responses, I think he has a clear sense of BlackBerry's challenges and he's done a great job of setting a vision and a recovery path for the company.
He says things that can easily be pulled out of context, which is where the media coaching comes in. That "tablets will be dead in five years" comment sounds ludicrous until you listen a little further and realize that he's saying our mobiles will be doing all the connecting and processing, but we still might have a "dumb" tablet-sized screen that will easily connect. I don't know if I completely buy that as a prediction myself, but it's an interesting idea and consistent with the "mobile computing" vision.
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z1005-19-13 07:33 AMLike 0 - While I think Thorsten could use a little media coaching, and I'll even agree he's not always completely direct in his responses, I think he has a clear sense of BlackBerry's challenges and he's done a great job of setting a vision and a recovery path for the company.
He says things that can easily be pulled out of context, which is where the media coaching comes in. That "tablets will be dead in five years" comment sounds ludicrous until you listen a little further and realize that he's saying our mobiles will be doing all the connecting and processing, but we still might have a "dumb" tablet-sized screen that will easily connect. I don't know if I completely buy that as a prediction myself, but it's an interesting idea and consistent with the "mobile computing" vision.
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z10kevinnugent likes this.05-19-13 08:17 AMLike 1 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorI can give you a use case. I read a lot of magazines, and I've taken to subscribing to digital editions. They're a little hard to read on my phone, though, so it would be great if I could just carry my whole collection with me and just read them on whichever screen is handy.
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z1005-19-13 08:21 AMLike 0 - I can give you a use case. I read a lot of magazines, and I've taken to subscribing to digital editions. They're a little hard to read on my phone, though, so it would be great if I could just carry my whole collection with me and just read them on whichever screen is handy.
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Now why didn't I think of that? Oh I know because RIM disabled the bridge on bb10 to keep the carriers happy that's why!05-19-13 08:59 AMLike 2 - I can give you a use case. I read a lot of magazines, and I've taken to subscribing to digital editions. They're a little hard to read on my phone, though, so it would be great if I could just carry my whole collection with me and just read them on whichever screen is handy.
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But since it is not here yet, I do hope that they FIX the Bridge that we did have since as Sad-Old noted, we had those very functions until the bb10 phones came without it. But maybe HE does not want to spend the money on bring bridge back to pb and bb10 users???? You do seem to have some inside info or your crystal ball is better than most.05-19-13 09:51 AMLike 0 - Apple, Google and Microsoft are already doing the mobile computing Heins can only dream about. The same Web services and most of the same apps are accessible from a bunch of form factors on the same platform. If I were a masochist and wanted to read a Zinio magazine on my iPhone, I could, but I could also read it on my iPad since the app is the same. My Skydrive cloud storage is accessible from my Symbian phone, Android tablet and Windows PC as long as there's some form of Internet connectivity.
Bridge turned the PB into a dumb terminal/big screen for a BB phone. It was a good option when it was too costly and complicated to have a cellular radio on the PB that could access the BB network without additional BIS/BES provisioning but now it's become a legacy function. Palm tried that dumb terminal idea with their Foleo and that was killed before it even launched. I think we're moving towards a multitude of cheaper, smarter devices which seamlessly share data, instead of a big powerful smartphone that hooks up to a bunch of dumb screens.sad_old_man likes this.05-19-13 09:53 AMLike 1 - On the second thought, only those without tablet would download and patiently read eMagazines on their mobile. If you have a tablet, why would you use your mobile for reading? "Dumb" tablet maybe workable on this particular purpose. But again, you will end up in buying an independent tablet that is usable without connecting or integrating into a mobile instead of being dependent to another device. The tablet is simply useless without the phone. And when you lost or damaged the phone, the tablet becomes handicap - unless connected again to another phone.
If you are familiar with 80's robot craze, Mazinger Z is like that. it is a dumb robot until the Hover Pilder dock itself into Mazinger's head. Unlike Voltes V, they are independent and individually powerful machines that when volt together, it converts into a more powerful robot. The previous BlackBerry's phone (running in OS7) and the PlayBook is like Voltes V. They are powerful independent devices that when volt (a.k.a. "bridge") together they become powerful device that can beat the "i" and "A" Boazanians' empires...
Posted via Z10sad_old_man likes this.05-19-13 10:08 AMLike 1 - On the second thought, only those without tablet would download and patiently read eMagazines on their mobile. If you have a tablet, why would you use your mobile for reading? "Dumb" tablet maybe workable on this particular purpose. But again, you will end up in buying an independent tablet that is usable without connecting or integrating into a mobile instead of being dependent to another device. The tablet is simply useless without the phone. And when you lost or damaged the phone, the tablet becomes handicap - unless connected again to another phone.
If you are familiar with 80's robot craze, Mazinger Z is like that. it is a dumb robot until the Hover Pilder dock itself into Mazinger's head. Unlike Voltes V, they are independent and individually powerful machines that when volt together, it converts into a more powerful robot. The previous BlackBerry's phone (running in OS7) and the PlayBook is like Voltes V. They are powerful independent devices that when volt (a.k.a. "bridge") together they become powerful device that can beat the "i" and "A" Boazanians' empires...
Posted via Z10johnnyuk likes this.05-19-13 03:21 PMLike 1 - I think Thor could take a pic of himself squatting over the PlayBook like Kevin did with the iPad and their would be plenty of people on here that would say he still has till December 31, and when that date passes just say he never said PlayBook would get BB10 or come up with a ton of other excuses for them. You are died in the wool apologist fan boys and are no better than the iDroid trolls that polytechnic the forums. BBRY can do no wrong, never misleads customers and in the rare case they do then it is for the better of the company and everyone is whiners. It is thinking like this thought brought RIM to the brink of oblivion and you guys should stop revising history, study it, and realize that doing the same thing again, again, and again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity!
Posted via CB10kevinnugent and blueberrymerry like this.05-19-13 03:39 PMLike 2 - I think Thor could take a pic of himself squatting over the PlayBook like Kevin did with the iPad and their would be plenty of people on here that would say he still has till December 31, and when that date passes just say he never said PlayBook would get BB10 or come up with a ton of other excuses for them. You are died in the wool apologist fan boys and are no better than the iDroid trolls that polytechnic the forums. BBRY can do no wrong, never misleads customers and in the rare case they do then it is for the better of the company and everyone is whiners. It is thinking like this thought brought RIM to the brink of oblivion and you guys should stop revising history, study it, and realize that doing the same thing again, again, and again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity!
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Secondly how do you polytechnic a forum?
I also failed History as a subject. (I didn't really but I thought it might make you feel better)05-19-13 04:03 PMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorNow just in passing, here's an interesting novel way to use your pb!!!!!!!!!! Connect your existing pb to your phone through bridge and read 'THE BIG SCREEN'S pb?
Now why didn't I think of that? Oh I know because RIM disabled the bridge on bb10 to keep the carriers happy that's why!
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z1005-19-13 04:57 PMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorBtw, Bridge still works the way it always has with OS7 and earlier...
I'm guessing here, but Bridge to BB10 didn't get all the legacy features implemented because the assumption was that the tablet would be getting BB10 soon, too. When the update comes for the PlayBook I would gather that much--if not all - - Bridge functionality will be restored.
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z1005-19-13 05:03 PMLike 0 - Btw, Bridge still works the way it always has with OS7 and earlier...
I'm guessing here, but Bridge to BB10 didn't get all the legacy features implemented because the assumption was that the tablet would be getting BB10 soon, too. When the update comes for the PlayBook I would gather that much--if not all - - Bridge functionality will be restored.
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Sent from an ATMFF22 likes this.05-19-13 05:25 PMLike 1 - SlcCorradoBlackBerryBtw, Bridge still works the way it always has with OS7 and earlier...
I'm guessing here, but Bridge to BB10 didn't get all the legacy features implemented because the assumption was that the tablet would be getting BB10 soon, too. When the update comes for the PlayBook I would gather that much--if not all - - Bridge functionality will be restored.
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z10Thunderbuck likes this.05-19-13 05:39 PMLike 1 - Excuse me a moment sir but I feel I must correct you. That is definitely, definitely not the definition of insanity and I should know better than most about that subject!.
Secondly how do you polytechnic a forum?
I also failed History as a subject. (I didn't really but I thought it might make you feel better)
Posted via CB10sad_old_man likes this.05-19-13 05:47 PMLike 1 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorOh, and in the midst of all this discussion, an idea struck me...
http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?t=809141
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z1005-19-13 06:36 PMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired Moderator
From the awesome virtual keyboard of my Z10SlcCorrado likes this.05-19-13 07:12 PMLike 1 - Now it's strange you should mention that because I have the same problem. So much so that I feel at times like my playbook is saying to me "I know what you want to say but I'm in a mood to say this instead". Mind you sometimes I don't argue with it because what it is saying is far more intelligent that what I typed!
Last edited by sad_old_man; 05-20-13 at 01:00 PM.
05-20-13 06:33 AMLike 0 - 05-20-13 08:34 AMLike 1
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- Not quite sure how you figure it'll be lighter. It will still need a battery and thats probably in the order of 80% of it's total weight.sad_old_man and EchoesFX like this.05-20-13 12:31 PMLike 2
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